I don't understand that. How is that possible ?

You seems, like me, to be fascinated with existence in it's "purest" form, if I may say so.

I don't see any reasons to believe in any kind of God, and you don't either, you have said that earlier by saying that you believe it for non-rational reasons. 

For me, not believing in God, doesn't fuck with my mind at all but at the contrary, it adds to the mystery of this world. And I find this mystery to be very stimulating and this can only adds to the sense of aw and wonder that I have towards this universe.  

How can it fuck you up not believing in it ?

And postulating the existence of God is not relieving at all to me. Now you have to account for this ultimately complex being that God would be. And that, for no reasons... Every thing points to a less and less complex universe as time goes backward. What makes you think that something "ultimately" complex as God would be have created it and how can that be a relief to you ?

I think what Brian37 wants you do is asking one further 'why' question.

Why does theism balance the equaition of your consiousness better than atheism. 

If you can answer that question without an "i dont know" you are at your personal and true equilibrium.

I told you in another post... But I don't know if you read it...

Let me lick your ass again lol, this as nothing to do with this thread

I have seen what you do and you are very talented. I'm impressed. I'll probably buy some of your things.

Peels these layers, I encourage you to peel them all off, but while you do that, don't have any a priori, don't expect anything, don't have any preconceived ideas, and let the Onion (with a capital "O" ) surprise you. This can only be more stimulating.

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Wow. Some of the replies posted while I was typing this are way better than mine. You people have fast typer/clicker fingers.

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To invoke the Douglas Adams quote I found only recently:

"Isn't it enough to think that a garden is beautiful without believing there are fairies at the bottom, too?"

The universe is a sometimes beautiful, sometimes terrifying, but almost always fascinating place. The parts we understand inspire awe because of their elegance. The parts we don't understand inspire awe because of their mystery, much like a magic trick to which we don't know the secret. But as elegant or mysterious as anything in the universe happens to be, it does not suggest a greater power.

If there are things in this universe we could never empirically understand, then the list of such things we could propose don't stop at just a god figure. We could have some real fun with the idea. There is no reason for us to accept that such things exist just because we can't be sure they don't, just as there is no reason for me to accept that there is an invisible, intangible ghost-sasquatch standing next to me simply because I can't empirically know that there is not. The only difference between the undetectable god and the undetectable sasquatch is that the undetectable sasquatch is silly on purpose.

You're very difficult to understand. In one way you seem to say that your belief is a feeling or an intuition that can't be described or subjected to tests of reasoning or empericism, while in other ways you seem to say your belief is based on no such thing.

I may or may not be right about this, but your insistence that your reason for believing cannot be described sounds more to me like you just don't know why you believe, but you believe that you believe for a good reason. Somehow it makes sense. You can't say how it makes sense, but somehow it does. Hm.

Not knowing exactly why I am doing something is a big enough clue for me to quit doing it.

Going back to your abstract painting analogy, it's like you're saying you don't know why you see a certain thing in all the abstract colors, you just do. But the important thing to remember is that it's an abstract painting. You can entertain the idea of seeing all kinds of things in there, and certainly people do, but whatever they see, it's still just a painting.

It kind of reminds me of a really neat quote I read once. It says a thousand things in just one sentence, if you ponder it long enough:

"I pity thee, mirror, for men look on you and see you not for what you are."

The image might be compelling, but it's still just ink splats on a canvass.

Hm.. this poetic/metaphor business kind of makes me sound like Mephiboseth. I feel all dirty all of a sudden. I better quit.

Can't help it. I'm drawn to metaphor-play like a moth to a flame. o_O

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Meta-foreplay? I'm turning myself on.

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It is precisely the point. Were I able to understand, I would be able to explain. You would have me accept your point of view without understanding?

 Science is at best a few hundred years of history. That amounts to tiny fraction of the age of the universe. So a species, scentient for but a single heart beat of the universe has assailed the roots of reality and emerged victorious? I find it amusing how confident we are in our knowledge and I am incredulous that anyone can say with certainty what does or does not explain the totality of existence. I found it annoying with fundamentalist Christians, and I get annoyed when I am told that it is certain that god does not exist.

Some atheists consider this a certainty.

Irrelevant to you. Not irrelevant to me.

Another analogy. I'm building a telescope. In the process I learn a great deal about optices, materials, measurement, etc. When I finally complete the telescope and peer into space, does what I see change the telescope?

I suspect if I could answer this then the larger question would be settled once and for all for me.

If you assume that the answer removes any further questions. But I think that would be boring. it would just give rise to different questions. The process is interesting, and it wouldn't stop as long as there are other questions.

Nothing would change but my understanding. Nothing in my mind has the power to change reality.

Are you suggesting that god is inaccessible? If that is the case then the question is moot.  I don't hold to a supernatural deity. If it is to have any value to me, such an entity must have some way of interacting with my reality. 

Ill start like Hitchens, in reverse, this time. 

The problem i have Wavefreak, i cant really tell what you believe or not.

You didnt define your belief, nor the god you believe in, so its hard to adress anything regarding it.

 i agree that only your understanding would change, not reality, obviously, but what does it MEAN to YOU?

I mean what does knowing there is a god/no god mean to you personally. Not so much on an intelectual level, but on a psychological one.

And last, im not implying that there is one final answer for anything, i even think this is impossible.

the human can ALWAYS ask one more "why".

 I personally think this is the most important question for you (and a solvable one), since you admited, if you know it, it would resolve a lot for you.

Also you would know WHY theism ballances your consciousness best (an issue you raised before).

This question i think is one of the most important one for everyone, Atheist or Theist.

I personally (took a long time) came to the conclusion that psychologically i was afraid that god (the christian god in my case) existed and i would got eternally punished.

So at some time in my life i needed to pick a choice, either my integrity, freedom of thought and (supposed) eternal hellfire, or eternal submission.

I chose the first, and from that point it was basically a trip downhill  

Since you seem like a somewhat agnostic deist (or even pantheist, idk since you dont specify it ), it is hard for me to speculate on what you might hold as a psychologically value to your theism, but i am curious, so if not for yourself, think about it and tell me. 

I'm not sure how to say this without being offensive, but it's what I think that is important that matters. In this one thing, I will not let what others tell me what questions I should be asking and thoughts I should be thinking. I will always listen and consider other's input, but ultimately, this is a deeply personal thing and the choices are mine and mine alone.

Again, this may seem offensive, but satisfying the curiousity of others is not something I am interested in.

Also, I will admit that I am defensive. But you must remember, I am posting on a site where the vast majority of members are convinced of a position fundamentally different than mine, some of whom are highly motivated to see me change that position and a few that consider me delusional in an unhealthy way.  

Also I am in no hurry. I am pretty content with how my outlook serves me. We're it not for my pre-delection to asking questions, then I doubt I would even be here. And I come here, not because there are no other places to ask questions, but rather the best way to test my thoughts is not to find people that will agree and  re-inforce but rather find those that will challenge. I'm pretty sure this place fits the bill. 

Uh you seem awfully quickly offended, i even said in my post that it is my personal thought that it is the most important question, im giving input to issues that you raised, and im not even in a position to tell you what to think, no one is in that position.

Im not even physically able to convince you, not because i have bad arguments, but because the only person that convince you, is yourself.

As you see, im not even in any remote position to make you think anything anyways.

You seem to think that im using you for my own amusement, which is a somewhat weird conclusion.

Whats wrong about being curious about someones opinion/thoughts? sheesh 

Im not trying to forcefully deconvert you or anything (again, this is impossible for me) i was just enjoying a discussion till now.

And i thought you were saying "Boobs!", well in that case my arguments dont count