Molecular Evolution Lecture Section I Part iii) An Introduction to Biochemistry

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This is absolutely

This is absolutely fantastic. I am preparing a Neuromuscular Disorders lecture for med students. Do you have any great pictures (biochem, physiology, etc..) that describe the action potential or excitation-contraction coupling?


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Figures 1.34 and 1.35 aren't

Figures 1.34 and 1.35 aren't showing up.  Also the first figure 1.33 isn't showing up(there are two figure 1.33).

[EDIT]Nevermind.  They are showing up now[/EDIT]

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Hi DG, Thanks again for

Hi DG,

Thanks again for this series of lectures, I am slowly but surely making my way through them.  On this one, I am up to the point where you start writing about how food molecules are broken down to provide energy.

As per usual, I have a few questions about the things that I've read up until this point, and again if you could correct them, or me, when you get a chance, that would be much appreciated:

 


You said "The group just discussed above is called the alkenes. But a similar pattern exists for a group discussed last lecture, the alkenes:"

should be "The group just discussed above is called the ALKANES..." ?

 

You didn't finish this sentence: "These are examples of homologous series, series of organic molecules which get larger in succession based on a simple formula. There are many such series, such as the aldehydes, the alcohols, the"

 

Regarding branching.  Figure 1.14 you have shown 2-methylbutane, and in figure 1.17 you have shown "a branched butane isomer".  Would it be correct to say that 2-methylbutane is a branched pentane isomer, and that the "branched butane isomer" depicted in figure 1.17 is 2-methlpropane?

 


You said "If they were double covalent, they would be indicated by a double line, like this skeletal drawing of butene:"

But is figure 1.19 not, in fact, a skeletal drawing of hexene?  ch3-ch2-ch-ch-ch2-ch3 ?

 


You've shown the numbering system for indicating where things like the methyl group are in a particular molecule, is there also a way of indicating where the double bond is in the alkene group?

 

You said: "Carbon is the structural framework for everything. Proteins, nucleic acids, fatty acids, hydrocarbons, sugars etc. It must have hydrogen in it by definition."

I can see that hydrocarbons must have hydrogen in them by definition, but is that what you were referring to?  Or were you saying that organic molecules must have hydrogen in them by definition?  I was just a bit confused as it seems that carbon as the structural framework for everything rather than hydrocarbons was the subject of the previous sentence.  Or I could be completely mistaken of course!  But would say O=C=C=O, or O=C=C=C=O be considered organic?

 

You said : "In cyclic molecules, the labeling is always done clockwise."

and then : "As a cyclic molecule, the carbon vertices will be numerically denoted counterclockwise."

I'm confused!

 

Regarding figure 1.23, glucose.  You said "the ketone group (=C=O)" I took this to mean that the ketone group is a carbon that has a double covalent bond to the 'main body' and another double covalent bond to an oxygen.  Then you said "glucose has a ketone group and is hence a ketose, as opposed to an aldose" but I can't see the ketone group on that picture, have I misunderstood something?

 

You said: "There are other common properties of sugars. Although biological sugars tend to be cyclic, they can usually take many isomers. For example, glucose can adopt an unbranched conformation like this:"


Was there supposed to be a picture after that paragraph?

 

"large ring shaped structure containing nitrong"

Should be nitrogen?

 

You said: "Those with only a large six-carbon ring are called pyrimidines, while those with an additional five-carbon ring are called purines."

But in the pictures none of them have six carbons in their ring, and of those with an additional ring, none of them have five carbons.  Did you mean 6-sided ring and additional 5 sided ring?  Or 6-verticied ring and 5 verticied ring?


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I fixed all of that, except

I fixed all of that, except several things:

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 You've shown the numbering system for indicating where things like the methyl group are in a particular molecule, is there also a way of indicating where the double bond is in the alkene group?

That numbering system will hold true for any group, for any attachment, for any molecule. I just used methyl because it is easy to find pictures of methyl group arrangements.

And in answer to your question, the way to indicate where a double bond is, is to draw a second line in parallel.

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 r I could be completely mistaken of course!  But would say O=C=C=O, or O=C=C=C=O be considered organic?

All organic molecules must have hydrogen and oxygen in them. 

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 Figure 1.14 you have shown 2-methylbutane, and in figure 1.17 you have shown "a branched butane isomer".  Would it be correct to say that 2-methylbutane is a branched pentane isomer, and that the "branched butane isomer" depicted in figure 1.17 is 2-methlpropane?

No, it is not a propane with a methyl group. Although technically that would be chemically identical. This is the branched isomer of butane in question. This is butane not methylpropane.

 

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Very nice.

Very nice.


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Hi DG, I have to admit, I

Hi DG,

I have to admit, I found this second half of this lecture pretty hard going.  I think I'm going to have to read this a couple more times, taking notes and drawing pictures!

Here's a couple of things I was wondering about:

 

You said: "Phototrophes are an example of primary producers because they synthesize biological molecules such as glucose which then need to be eaten by other organisms so that they can use glucose in their own metabolic pathways, since they synthesize it themselves. Primary producers are central to the existence of life."

Should the sentences be broken up differently? :

"Phototrophes are an example of primary producers because they synthesize biological molecules such as glucose which then need to be eaten by other organisms so that they can use glucose in their own metabolic pathways.  Since they synthesize it themselves, primary producers are central to the existence of life."

 

You said "For pyruvate to for oxaloacetate, it must be carboxylated"

Should this be "For pyruvate to form oxaloacetate, it must be carboxylated" ?


You said "The membrane closest to the cytosol is called the outer membrane, while that on the interior face of the mitochondria is called the outer membrane."

I assume the second "outer membrane" is supposed to say "inner membrane" ?

 

Also, I don't think you responded to this from my last comment:

"Regarding figure 1.23, glucose.  You said "the ketone group (=C=O)" I took this to mean that the ketone group is a carbon that has a double covalent bond to the 'main body' and another double covalent bond to an oxygen.  Then you said "glucose has a ketone group and is hence a ketose, as opposed to an aldose" but I can't see the ketone group on that picture, have I misunderstood something?"


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*bump*

*bump*


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*bump*  Apologies to those

*bump*

 Apologies to those sick of me bumping this to the top, but I think this is a great idea that I hope to see through to the end, hoping DG is still posting the rest of them.


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I'm with phooney.

I'm with phooney. *bump*

2.5 hours. Going to re-read

Thank you so much for this.

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I know you said in here

I know you said in here that we're going to cover the mitochondria more in proteomics, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around the enzymes simply operating as carriers for the free electrons through the reactions.

Tell me if this is a stupid question and which part to re-read cause I missed it twice:

Are the enzymes polymerized in the mitochondria and if so then how do the free electrons not break the polymer chain?

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Well, enzymes are composed

Well, enzymes are composed of polypeptide chains, they are formed by means of polymerizing amino acids. All enzymes are constructed in the cytosol. Some enzymes are partially modified later in the Endoplasmic Recticulum. All enzymes, indeed, all proteins that the mitochondria needs, will be imported into the mitochondria from the cytosol through a process called endoplasmic translocation.

I am unsure what precisely is meant by the latter part of your question. The reaction that constructs proteins by linking amino acids is called petidyl transferase. The reactive bond in question is donated by ATP hydrolysis into AMP and pyrophosphate, which links a tRNA with an amino acid via an enzyme called amino acyl synthetase. The reactive thioester bond is later transferred to the nascent polypeptide chain as the protein is being constructed inside a machine called a ribosome. Take note that the ribosome is unusual. Virtually all catalysis is carried out by proteins, but the catalytic sites of ribosomes are formed by structural RNA. Any RNA catalytic molecule is called a ribozyme. The ribosome is one of the most abundant supramolecular structures within the cell. It is formed by four large ribosomal RNAs and at least 50 smaller proteins.

Ribosomes are free in the cytosol and will construct proteins, of which enzymes  are hence a subset, in the cytosol. Hence any mitochondrial proteins will be delivered to the mitochondria by virtue of endoplasmic translocation through its bilayer. The only exception the protein translation always occuring in the cytosol is the rough endoplasmic recticulum, a large convluted organelle in Eukaryotic cells which junctions against the nucleus, and against which numerous ribosomes studd the lumen through which proteins are translated then translocated into the recticulum. Numerous cytosolic proteins are modified within the ER for re-export back into the cytosol, or for retainment in the ER depending on the signal sequence attached to it.

"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.

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OK. That jumped me ahead.

OK. That jumped me ahead. lol. *puts blinders on past the middle of second paragraph in the response* for now.

I figured out where I misunderstood the interaction with the mitochondria in your first sentence. I had enzymes and amino acids as equivalent structures instead of enzymes as a structure OF amino acids. I missed that on both reads.

Part ii lulled me into thinking this was going to be a cake-walk. I'm sticking with it though. 

 

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Hi DG, Any comment on my

Hi DG,

Any comment on my last read-through?


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Sorry, but could you point

Sorry, but could you point to the sentence that confused?

Unfortunately, this only gets more difficult. Ultimately, my goal is to produce, for my readers, an account of how mutations, molecular and genetic changes produce new phenotype changes which produce new organisms which produce new species. This task is absolutely immense. There are at least four distinct fields I need to cover (molecular biology, evolutionary biology, developmental biology and genetics) and each of those has linking sub-fields (evolutionary developmental biology, population genetics, molecular evolution, molecular genetics, evolutionary genetics, molecular developmental biology, developmental genetics etc.). The first five lectures (this one included) merely constitute rudimentary background knowledge without which none of the above fields would make sense. After that, it is straight into technical things. That's why I haven't released anything else. I'm writing all of them before I release any of them. And forget about the ordered list I presented in the intro. I have to go through a lot more than that. I think I'm going to array it by theme instead of increasing difficulty. So, after the intro knowledge has been complete, I spend some lectures going through molecular biology, then developmental, then genetics, then evolutionary. Then, once all those basics have been introduced, I can go into hyper-specialized lectures that cover complex interlocking detailed exchange of different fields, and ultimately come out with my goal. The task is monumentally harder than when you are writing for someone other than your close colleagues. 

"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.

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deludedgod wrote: Sorry,

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Sorry, but could you point to the sentence that confused?

This paragraph caused me to question about the bonds of the cytosolic membrane. In your answer, you said all enzymes are constructed in the cytosol so that cleared it up some.

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The mitochondria has a double membrane, that is to say it has two membranes, and between the membranes there is a gap. The membrane facing the cytosol (the cytosolic membrane) is called the inner membrane, while that on the exterior face of the mitochondria is called the outer membrane. The high energy electrons are passed through the membrane and used to power ATP Synthase reactions, with the result that ATP is synthesized. ATP synthase is an enzyme which is embedded in the inner membrane of the mitochondria, and the flow of high energy electrons through the membrane is used to generate a proton gradient which powers ADP condensation. In this regard, the oxidative phosphorylation reaction works like a battery, in which the flow of electrons generates an electrical gradient to power a reaction.

The battery analogy didn't really work for me because I envision the mitochondrion as taking in-processing-releasing and not really being a piece of a circuit because it is powering its own 'internal' reactions by the oxidative phosphorylation.

For me, I think coupling the enzyme lecture with this will click.

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Unfortunately, this only gets more difficult. Ultimately, my goal is to produce, for my readers, an account of how mutations, molecular and genetic changes produce new phenotype changes which produce new organisms which produce new species. This task is absolutely immense. There are at least four distinct fields I need to cover (molecular biology, evolutionary biology, developmental biology and genetics) and each of those has linking sub-fields (evolutionary developmental biology, population genetics, molecular evolution, molecular genetics, evolutionary genetics, molecular developmental biology, developmental genetics etc.). The first five lectures (this one included) merely constitute rudimentary background knowledge without which none of the above fields would make sense. After that, it is straight into technical things. That's why I haven't released anything else. I'm writing all of them before I release any of them. And forget about the ordered list I presented in the intro. I have to go through a lot more than that. I think I'm going to array it by theme instead of increasing difficulty. So, after the intro knowledge has been complete, I spend some lectures going through molecular biology, then developmental, then genetics, then evolutionary. Then, once all those basics have been introduced, I can go into hyper-specialized lectures that cover complex interlocking detailed exchange of different fields, and ultimately come out with my goal. The task is monumentally harder than when you are writing for someone other than your close colleagues.

Absolutely, I like difficult concepts. I'm reading and learning. I expect the curve to be high, but later I'll have a better grasp on what 'hyper-specialized' field fascinates me the most.

I know that I am fascinated by stem cell research and I understand the concepts behind cell differentiation. A better understanding on the molecular level will make me a much more powerful advocate.

Knowing more than Bush shouldn't be enough for anyone. lol.

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Quote: The battery

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The battery analogy

It is not an analogy. The system of proton pumps coupled to electron transport changes is a battery by definition.A battery by definition is an electrochemical gradient which stores electricity within a potential difference, or voltage across a distinct physical divisor. The mitochondrial Synthase pump is no less a battery than is a 9V or an AA.

"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.

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This paragraph caused me to question about the bonds of the cytosolic membrane. In your answer, you said all enzymes are constructed in the cytosol so that cleared it up some.

This is puzzling. A membrane is a distinct structural unit in biology. A membrane is not composed of polymerization of small molecules. Enzymes are a class of proteins, and therefore are polymers of amino acids linked together. The membrane and the membrane proteins are structurally distinct. A protein is formed from polypeptides, which are the polymers of amino acids. Polypeptides are therefore very large single molecules. The membrane is also composed of many repeating small molecules however these are not held together by covalent bonds hence it is NOT a polymer because it is not a single molecule. It is many small molecules held together by non-covalent interactions to form a lipid bilayer. This lipid bilayer is formed from small lipid molecules which are held together noncovalently. Within this are proteins, which are made from polypeptides which ARE held together covalently, and proteins that transverse the membrane constitute a completely distinct structural entity than does a cell membrane. You should avoid called it the cytosilic membrane, since every organelle has a cytosilic membrane. It should be called the outer mitochondrial membrane. 

"Physical reality” isn’t some arbitrary demarcation. It is defined in terms of what we can systematically investigate, directly or not, by means of our senses. It is preposterous to assert that the process of systematic scientific reasoning arbitrarily excludes “non-physical explanations” because the very notion of “non-physical explanation” is contradictory.

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deludedgod wrote: Sorry,

deludedgod wrote:

Sorry, but could you point to the sentence that confused?

 Here is what I was still confused about (among other things, but the other things I think I'll be able to sort out with re-reading):

 

"Regarding figure 1.23, glucose.  You said "the ketone group (=C=O)" I took this to mean that the ketone group is a carbon that has a double covalent bond to the 'main body' and another double covalent bond to an oxygen.  Then you said "glucose has a ketone group and is hence a ketose, as opposed to an aldose" but I can't see the ketone group on that picture, have I misunderstood something?"

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Unfortunately, this only gets more difficult. Ultimately, my goal is to produce, for my readers, an account of how mutations, molecular and genetic changes produce new phenotype changes which produce new organisms which produce new species. This task is absolutely immense.
 

No doubt.  All I can say is I really appreciate the burden you have put upon yourself, I think it is a worthwhile goal.  In fact, considering even the original number of lectures you presented in the intro and the amount of time it has taken me to digest them so far, I could see this series of lectures taking me over a year to study and understand.  If the topics are getting even more difficult, then the timespan would only increase.  I can only speculate how long it would take to organise the lectures in the first place! 

I'm hoping to be able to go over all the lectures posted so far again this weekend, but as mentioned, this time I'll be writing notes and drawing diagrams!


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This paragraph caused me to question about the bonds of the cytosolic membrane. In your answer, you said all enzymes are constructed in the cytosol so that cleared it up some.

This is puzzling. A membrane is a distinct structural unit in biology. A membrane is not composed of polymerization of small molecules. Enzymes are a class of proteins, and therefore are polymers of amino acids linked together. The membrane and the membrane proteins are structurally distinct. A protein is formed from polypeptides, which are the polymers of amino acids. Polypeptides are therefore very large single molecules. The membrane is also composed of many repeating small molecules however these are not held together by covalent bonds hence it is NOT a polymer because it is not a single molecule. It is many small molecules held together by non-covalent interactions to form a lipid bilayer. This lipid bilayer is formed from small lipid molecules which are held together noncovalently. Within this are proteins, which are made from polypeptides which ARE held together covalently, and proteins that transverse the membrane constitute a completely distinct structural entity than does a cell membrane. You should avoid called it the cytosilic membrane, since every organelle has a cytosilic membrane. It should be called the outer mitochondrial membrane.

OK. I gotta go back. 

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