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Greetings and Salutations

I found this site through my web travels recently.

I was a Theist from my early years until 2 years ago. It's kind of a long story, so I'll skip that for now.

Basically, I figured out that God and scripture wqas being used by myself and people I knew to do what we wanted it to, not the other way around. I could use the Bible to justify ANYTHING I did and that seemed wrong.

I started questioning how true a book that could be manipulated really was. If this book was really from God, why could I maipulate its words? I can't manipulate math to have 4+3=8. I can't read an astronomy book in a way to make Pluto the third planet from the sun yet I could use the Bible to justify lying, cheating and stealing. None of it really mattered anyways since God would forgive me after.

I was always upset about my lack of control over "sin" until I turned my back on it. Believing I was powerless over this demonic force that wanted me to do evil made me do evil. Once I started taking responsibility for what I did instead of saying "The Devil made me do it" or "This must not have been God's will," I actually found I was making better decisions.

The thing is, I had been taught that the Bible had to be believed from cover to cover or not believed at all. I actually believe this to thid day. I just no longer believe any of it.

I look back on that and I am baffled as to how I believed that stuff. I have seen arguments against God, but to me there is a simple one. Let's say I am God. Man, I could leave it at that, couldn't I? However, I will continue. I am God and I love all of my creations. I REALLY want them to find me and see that I am God. So I would write a book that PROVES I am God, a book that no one can ever tear apart of refute. I mention computers, specific wars and I mention specific people. I talk about stuff that no one has any way to disprove ever. I also make sure to keep in close contact with people so that they can actually talk to me directly.

As a parent, I know how important it is to me for me to have a strong relationship with my kids. As a man who now qualifies himself as an athiest, I know I will get accused of BS such as not being a caring person or being immoral. This doesn't make me a person who believes in drugs or will be feeding my kids beer before they go to school. In fact, I am more secure in my morality now than I was before.

I can be a whole person without a religion telling me what to do or feel. I am still myself, after all, the good and the bad.

I could be useful here for the debate side of things since I spent twenty years of my life being a Christian before realizing how wrong that whole scene was. I can see their side while disagreeing with it and hopefully help with the troll thing as well. I have argued off trolls on my own site for years, so it's nothing new.

Eventually, I'll probably be one of the more talkative people on here, just doing a lot of reading first.

Peace,
Shannon


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I could be useful here for the debate side of things since I spent twenty years of my life being a Christian before realizing how wrong that whole scene was. I can see their side while disagreeing with it and hopefully help with the troll thing as well. I have argued off trolls on my own site for years, so it's nothing new.

Eventually, I'll probably be one of the more talkative people on here, just doing a lot of reading first.

I can't wait.  Welcome to the boards!

 

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Hey there and welcome!Your

Hey there and welcome!Your experience sounds alot like mine.I'm sure you'll find the site a great resource

FormerXstian wrote:

I found this site through my web travels recently.


I was always upset about my lack of control over "sin" until I turned my back on it. Believing I was powerless over this demonic force that wanted me to do evil made me do evil. Once I started taking responsibility for what I did instead of saying "The Devil made me do it" or "This must not have been God's will," I actually found I was making better decisions.

Yip.Despite what xtians say,not blaming your problems on a unseen spiritual war will help you be a better person

FormerXstian wrote:
The thing is, I had been taught that the Bible had to be believed from cover to cover or not believed at all. I actually believe this to thid day. I just no longer believe any of it.

I too was taught that the bible was the infallible and literal word of god.I on thing was wrong,it was all wrong.Of course,they argued away any supposed errors.

 

FormerXstian wrote:
As a parent, I know how important it is to me for me to have a strong relationship with my kids. As a man who now qualifies himself as an athiest, I know I will get accused of BS such as not being a caring person or being immoral. This doesn't make me a person who believes in drugs or will be feeding my kids beer before they go to school. In fact, I am more secure in my morality now than I was before..

Yip.As an atheist,you now have no morals and are constantly depressed.At least,that's what the xtians tell me.

 

Hope to see you around

 

Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible

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FormerXstian wrote:I found

FormerXstian wrote:

I found this site through my web travels recently.

I was a Theist from my early years until 2 years ago. It's kind of a long story, so I'll skip that for now.

Basically, I figured out that God and scripture wqas being used by myself and people I knew to do what we wanted it to, not the other way around. I could use the Bible to justify ANYTHING I did and that seemed wrong.

I started questioning how true a book that could be manipulated really was. If this book was really from God, why could I maipulate its words? I can't manipulate math to have 4+3=8. I can't read an astronomy book in a way to make Pluto the third planet from the sun yet I could use the Bible to justify lying, cheating and stealing. None of it really mattered anyways since God would forgive me after.

I was always upset about my lack of control over "sin" until I turned my back on it. Believing I was powerless over this demonic force that wanted me to do evil made me do evil. Once I started taking responsibility for what I did instead of saying "The Devil made me do it" or "This must not have been God's will," I actually found I was making better decisions.

The thing is, I had been taught that the Bible had to be believed from cover to cover or not believed at all. I actually believe this to thid day. I just no longer believe any of it.

I look back on that and I am baffled as to how I believed that stuff. I have seen arguments against God, but to me there is a simple one. Let's say I am God. Man, I could leave it at that, couldn't I? However, I will continue. I am God and I love all of my creations. I REALLY want them to find me and see that I am God. So I would write a book that PROVES I am God, a book that no one can ever tear apart of refute. I mention computers, specific wars and I mention specific people. I talk about stuff that no one has any way to disprove ever. I also make sure to keep in close contact with people so that they can actually talk to me directly.

As a parent, I know how important it is to me for me to have a strong relationship with my kids. As a man who now qualifies himself as an athiest, I know I will get accused of BS such as not being a caring person or being immoral. This doesn't make me a person who believes in drugs or will be feeding my kids beer before they go to school. In fact, I am more secure in my morality now than I was before.

I can be a whole person without a religion telling me what to do or feel. I am still myself, after all, the good and the bad.

I could be useful here for the debate side of things since I spent twenty years of my life being a Christian before realizing how wrong that whole scene was. I can see their side while disagreeing with it and hopefully help with the troll thing as well. I have argued off trolls on my own site for years, so it's nothing new.

Eventually, I'll probably be one of the more talkative people on here, just doing a lot of reading first.

Peace,
Shannon

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Eventually, I'll probably be one of the more talkative people on here,

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