Theists, answer please!
Offline At some point in time, as a child (and without the assistance of much wiser adults) we all learn by ourselves to reason that Santa Clause and the Easter bunny aren't real. Even religious kids work it out eventually, why can't they just apply the same logic to Jesus? why does the reasoning stop at religion. Isn't that just a matter of choice - you simply choose not to be reasonable about it!
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Offline JillSwift wrote:
And how about those classic no-god arguments?
- There is no evidence of design in the universe.
Are you a troll Jill?
Earlier you claimed that we couldn't determine design in the universe, implying a designer, now you're claiming that we can see that there is no design in the universe?
So what is it? How is an argument for design, an argument for god?
What would evidence for design look like?
If you can't say what it would look like, how would you be able to determine there is none?
Note that you included that I labeled those "classic arguments".
Does that imply that I'm making those arguments any more than I was arguing for the existence of Santa in my previous list?
Nope.
So feel free to stuff it.
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
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Offline Well, what unbelievers such your self don't get, is that your conception of God is a redefining of it, it's neither psychologically informed, or learned by any other standard, it's just quite idiotic. Just because that dumbness is a far as your head can get around, doesn't mean that it as accurate rendition of what the conception of God is.
"Anyone can repress a woman, but you need 'dictated' scriptures to feel you're really right in repressing her. In the same way, homophobes thrive everywhere. But you must feel you've got scripture on your side to come up with the tedious 'Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' style arguments instead of just recognising that some people are different." - Douglas Murray
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Offline JillSwift wrote:
And how about those classic no-god arguments?
- There is no evidence of design in the universe.
Are you a troll Jill?
Earlier you claimed that we couldn't determine design in the universe, implying a designer, now you're claiming that we can see that there is no design in the universe?
So what is it? How is an argument for design, an argument for god?
What would evidence for design look like?
If you can't say what it would look like, how would you be able to determine there is none?
And how do you determine there is some?
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Well, what unbelievers such your self don't get, is that your conception of God is a redefining of it, it's neither psychologically informed, or learned by any other standard, it's just quite idiotic. Just because that dumbness is a far as your head can get around, doesn't mean that it as accurate rendition of what the conception of God is.
"I'm really an idiot! I have my own head way the fuck up my ass! Watch me dig myself into a hole over and over again!" ~Rook Hawkins (just citing sources)