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This thread is about the same thing me thinks.

If you have to see it, don't let them get any money for it. Buy a ticket for a different movie and go into expelled  if you have to.I'm sure FSM will understand and forgive you.

Oh,and of course relgious scientists are being persecuted.Just like all relgious people right? What makes me mad is I can already see my old church and homegroup, youth etc jumping all over this movie and showing it if they can. Then all sitting around afterward with their tea and coffee stating how persecuted they are and how evolution has been proven false and it's the end times blah blah..ugh

I always compare this sort of bullshit to an astronomer who said the Earth was the center of the universe or that the sun isn't really a star, a chemist who said mixing the right chemicals can turn lead into gold, or an obstetrician who denied human reproduction as we know it and said babies are actually brought by a stork (and I'm sure if we think hard enough any of us can come up with ridiculous explanations "proving" any of these.) Obviously they would be laughed at and not taken seriously by their colleagues, as should be the case with any biologist who denies evolution.

The Origin of Life - Made Easy

Origin of Life

I especially liked the first one.

Don't go to it, download it illegally. Let's not give him any money

I don't even see the point the movie is trying to address. "I lost my job!" Oh, boo-fucking-hoo. Where the Hell does anyone get the notion a teaching degree is supposed to give someone this magical sort of job security?

You're not doing a good fucking job, so welcome to the opposite edge of the two-sided blade that is a free market economy. Get some thicker skin or go find somewhere else to play.

"Some people want to keep science in this little box, where only compelling evidence counts!"

Gee whiz. What a bunch of assholes.

...It's also irksome enough that the film still apparently thinks the mad scientist motif is original, and knowing that most of the film's audience will likely fall for it.

*Sigh*

Sometimes, I wonder if the popularization of science wasn't an effort that was just doomed to fail. There are just too many idiots now among us.

Well, to be fair, the Discovery Channel's content providers don't have a lot of control over what does and does not get advertised on it. That's up to the network management, who will be far more concerned with $$$ than what an advertiser is promoting.

"Who started all this"

HOW many times do skeptics have to thump this idiotic archaic argument?

"Who" is not only presumptive, it assumes the specific "who" of the mind of the individual?

OK BEN? Assuming a who? Which one dumb ass? Allah, Yahwey, Ra, Vishnu?

It never occurs to these comic book lovers that the start of all this is the result of a "WHAT" not a "WHO".

Are we the result of Tom Cruise's utiopian god? Are we a result of karma? Are we living inside the universe being a giant brain?

It is not a matter of discriminating against religious people MORON!

Science should not be bastardized by being used to prop up a utopian agenda by a sectarian label, any label.

Idiots like this fail to understand that to learn things like miosis DOES NOT depend on being a Jew or Christian or Muslim. One will not burn in any version of hell of any religion if they are an outsider and learn the process of miosis.

A Jew, a Christian and atheist can all sit side by side in the same biology class and learn the same scientific processes, and NO holy book of any label of any religion is required to do so. It is sicking to me that religious people insist on trying to blend the two when all it amounts to is their needless fear of being wrong.

Science is incompatable with hocus pokus and always will be. If people want to believe that Dungeons and Dragons stuff, be it Scientology or Karma or Tarrot cards, all the scientific community wants is merely for you keep it seperate from the universal tool scientific method.

A physics lab, or forensics lab, or biology lab is going to operate on the same scientific method be it in Japan, or New York or Australia and should not be bastardized being used as tool of propaganda to support any religion.

Wait a minute... WTF!?

I was watching the Made Easy videos... and apparently there has evolved a strain of bacteria that fucking eats nylon! That's rather distrubing news. If the one strain continues evolving, might it not spawn bacteria that are able to consume other synthetic materials?

We're in pretty big trouble when there are metal-devouring bacteria in the world.

EDIT: ZOMG!

That animal is kick ass. Even the name is awesome - the ARCOSAUR!

Having this image dug-up inadvertantly by demanding we find a common ancestory between ducks and crocodiles is likely Kirk Cameron's greatest achievement.

That's fucked. What if some just cut loose, like the aggressive Africanized bees did, and start rotting reserves of fuel all over the place? Or what if they rapidly evolve (like most strains of bacteria do) and start eating other hydrocarbon based materials, like all of the common plastics we use?

Haha - there already are. So far, we're not in trouble, despite the fact that they've probably been around for hundreds of millions of years.

Really? Why isn't, say, my PC rotting away in that case?

Unfortunately, commercials like this seem to make the US go round. I'm always thinking, "Oh come on, everybody knows McDonald's is bad for you, they're not gonna fall for this stupid ad," and then of course, I see a giant line of cars in line for the drive-thru. I'll be curious to see the effect that this marketing ploy has on the masses.

ditto

I know, I know, I've been trying to stop. I just love the rush.

Personally, I'm unconvinced that televised ads do much for McDonalds anymore. Business is booming because of the way our economy operates. A lot of people are on tight schedules (half an hour is your standard lunch break in Canada) and tight budgets. How do you fill your gut in under half an hour for five bucks? The drive-thru at Wendy's, McDonalds, etc.

Compare this to say, France, where the culture has embraced a much more lesiurely pace to the day and far longer lunch period. People can afford the time to sit down for properly prepared food, let it settle, then get back to work. McDonalds doesn't have nearly the presence in such a culture, and the population doesn't have nearly the same problem with obesity.

...Of course, I'm starting to wonder if the 'McDonalds trend' isn't cropping-up certain evolutionary traits in newer generations of human beings that defeat the health-crippling effects of that sort of intake. I know a growing number of people who, like myself, just don't seem to be affected by high-calorie intakes. I can more or less eat whatever the Hell I want, in whatever quantities, and maintain a gross weight of around 110 or so lbs.

That would require the presence of metal-eating bacteria. Why are there very few e. coli bacteria on your kitchen counter? Because (presumably) it was cleaned after a possible introduction through contaminated foodstuffs. Electronic equipment is also cleaned. If you were to introduce your computer to the metal-eating bacteria, in the case of sulfate-reducing bacteria, it would only be interested in the iron. So steel screws and components. Of course, they would release sulfuric acid, which might do damage to other parts of your computer.

He reminds me of Michael Moore. Ugh.

http://www.expelledexposed.com/

The Discovery channel is a joke - Bigfoot, UFOs, etc.

Are you fucking kidding me!?

LOL!

That's the best ever. Dawkins, you've earned yourself an honorary Jedi badge for demonstrating the ability to throw this kind of mind trick around. 

I've been really disappointed with Discovery lately! Isn't it true that their christian owned?

Slimm,

would be nice, though it would be better if it ate any religious people

Did somebody mention insects???

For anyone even bothering to keep track, "Expelled" pulled in $1.4 million in at the box office over the opening weekend.  Compare this with a Moore film at $ 29 million each for both "Fahrenheit" and "Sicko".

It probably doesn't help that the reviews for the film have been horrible.  At Internet Movie Database it's getting a 3.3 out of a possible 10.  At Rotten Tomatoes it's getting a 9 % out of a possible 100 %, which collects all certified movie reviewers that place a review.  Two of the very few "positive" reviews come from "ChristianityToday" and some website calling itself "Comingsoon.net".  Stein has been marketing himself as an "intellectual" , for a log time now.  So much for marketing.

My favorite review comes from the New York Times, a paper that Ben contributes to.. (the business section)..Please no assumptions as to an ulterior motive for promoting religion & how this might pertain to maintaining the current status quo of economic disparity.  Our countries problems are "abortions", "gay weddings" and keeping the "Creation" story" from classed as fable where it belongs.   It's not the deep economic recession we are fading into and the fact that you can't pay your rent or mortgage.  Just so we're all clear.  Rant Over.  Here's a snippet of the review:

One of the sleaziest documentaries to arrive in a very long time, “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” is a conspiracy-theory rant masquerading as investigative inquiry.

movies.nytimes.com/2008/04/18/movies/18expe.html

Seems a bit like a teacher teaching astrology to his/her psychology class students (because the position of the stars when you were born affect your behavior, you know, so that's part of psychology, right?) and then wondering why s/he gets fired.