Thanks.

Wow, in the science of oration I think Kirk and Ray have obviously won.  This is probaby because their life jobs involved speaking and conveying drama.  RRS was very amateurish in speaking, but their subject matter and "physical attack" was much more of a higher intellectual caliber.  I think if you took Kirk's speakng, wrapped it around Brian's subject matter, and added a smidgen of "philosophy" which appeals much to the general public, RRS would have blown them away.  I think it was a stalemate.

Unfortunately, that is how a general public is swayed.  When Martin Luther King made his famous "I Have a Dream" speech, he supplied a very scarce amount of physical evidence (bible references were the only thing) and expelled only raw emotion and energy.  This worked in convincing the people that what he said was true.

This is "first law" of debate success and "truth", or at least it was spoken from my intelligent professor's mouth.

I have this subliminal thought, that I do not want to admit, but I probably ultimately think is true, that a single person is more intelligent then a crowd of people.  I mean this lone person as dealing with the world in a rational and logic sense, and making sense of things.  The crowd may be better in the physical realm, of working and building together, but that lone man could probably analyze the natural world better then the crowd.