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So then, you cannot, not only prove it, you cannot even provide any evidence of it.
I [edited-aiia] thought so. Therefore, it is completely imaginary.
[I originally said "I didn't think so"]
People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.
I don't see how that follows logically. Certainly, without seeing evidence, there's no justification for belief, but simply not seeing evidence doesn't falsify anything.
Without evidence, there is nothing to falsify. But one can imagine anything.
As you probably know (quoting from Wikipedia) "falsifiability (or refutability or testability) is the logical possibility that an assertion can be shown false by an observation or a physical experiment. That something is "falsifiable" does not mean it is false; rather, it means that it is capable of being criticized by observational reports."
People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.
Of course, it anyway can't be an effect of astral body, but only possibly etheric-material. Astral (emotional) body isn't material.
You can prove the existence of astral body to yourself, by practice and patience. Once you achieve a conscious movement around in dream, you can explore. You can then search for things, you can later verify in awaken state. You wouldn't be the first who did it. All such explorers did it, and succesfully. Their experiences matches each other.
It's also a popular entertainment among some teenagers. You know, watching female classmates when they sleep...or whatever they do at night, that's a better motivation, than just "proving something"
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
Hmm, I don't know... I think there are at least some cases where just a definition would be enough to design a falsifying experiment for a proposition, without any initial evidence being provided to support the proposition in question. But, even if you're spot-on 100% correct about this, not being able to falsify something still means that it hasn't been falsified.
In the case of a proposition without evidence to support it, and where the proposition is such that there's no obvious way to design a falsifying experiment, I think it's justified to make a number of skeptical statements about the proposition... but to make an outright claim stating that the proposition is false seems to be making a claim that's not adequately supported.
I'm not sure what you're saying here. What exactly is similar?
How would you know this if there is no evidence of "astral body"
Of course.
A video cannot be presented as proof of telekinesis.
Did you even bother to view the rebuttals? No? Are you afraid to be wrong? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG1ZSuiSmx4
If it is not material it does not exist.
I will not waste my time.
What the hell is a "conscious movement around in dream"?
Have you discussed this with your doctor?
People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.
But there is nothing except "astral body". What would be the definition of it?
"Nothing" cannot be considered a prospect for falsification.
People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychokinesis
Prize money for proof of psychokinesis
Internationally, there are various individual skeptics of the paranormal and skeptics' organizations who offer cash prize money to anyone—or anyone who meets a criterion of eligibility, such as a certain level of fame—who can successfully demonstrate the existence of an extraordinary psychic power, such as psychokinesis, which is currently regarded by mainstream science as being paranormal in origin, according to an agreed-upon experiment. These prizes have remained uncollected by people claiming to possess paranormal abilities.[citation needed]. The James Randi Educational Foundation offers 1,000,000 US dollars to anyone who has a demonstrated media profile as well as the support from some member of the academic community, and who can produce a paranormal event under previously controlled, mutually agreed upon circumstances. The money is kept in an escrow account with Goldman-Sachs in New York.
Atheism Books.
Right. 2 things though... "astral body" is not really "nothing"... there is an idea attached to it at the very least, and I think it's pretty well understood that it doesn't mean, for example, a rock. But, you're right, there's not a definition there, and so it's not a prospect for falsification. It's a pretty vague concept, at least as it's presented here, and it's not at all clear how such a thing could really exist, and if it did, what would its nature be. But, the thing is, the more vague a proposition, the harder it is to say it's false. For example, it's much easier to show that a Christian concept of a god is false than it is to show that a deist concept of a god is false. The Christian concept of a god simply provides more ammunition, or another way of looking at it is that the Christian concept of a god more effectively shoots itself in the foot.
This is similar to complicated laboratory tools, if you don't set them properly, or don't use at all, you can't see a cell, or an elementary particles. You can't blame the instrument, if you don't even use it appropriately.
Once someone estabilishes a transcendental contact with something or someone, he/she is able to receive a knowledge. Or delusions, when the contacted being (some kind of spirit) originates from the astral (emotional) plane of existence.
Anyway, people like my parents receives a material to verify. They try the suggested techniques, compare the received knowledge, give it to another members of the club, what they think about it, and eventually, they can very well determine if it's a nonsense, or if it has a true potential.
Years of experiences really speeded up this process and gave them a lot of experiences, this is why it became a routine. Delusional stuff is quickly rejected and people are warned about it, a promising stuff is further researched, and sometimes practised and propagated, when it's something specially good.
But when I recall the fact, that I am dreaming, then I can do something different, than just a spontaneous actions. I can leave my predestined role in that dream, and try something different. For example, I'm a former smoker. Whenever I see a cigarettes in a dream, I smoke a like a factory, because I remember that smoking feels good. But I could make a conscious choice in a dream, to not light up a dream cigarette whenever it appears. This is the difference of conscious dreaming.
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.
What body?
What set of bodies?
Prove there is anything beyond material.
There is NOTHING similar between material and "beyond material".
If there's no evidence of its existence, then it's imaginary.
Many alcoholics reported seeing pink elephants, snakes crawling out of their ears, and 2' giant insects chewing on their leg. But this is not deemed to be evidence of the existence of pink elephants, snakes crawling out of their ears, and 2' giant insects chewing on their leg. We are certain these people were halucinating from Delirium Tremens. Many people claiming to "see" the same thing is not evidence of what they claim to see exists. It is only evidence that many people claim to "see" similar things. 100's of year ago many people thought the earth was flat and many also thought ships could fall off the edge of the ocean. It is now known that those people were not correct. So many people believing and/or 'seeing' similar things is not evidence of that thing.
Fantasies.
He proved the psi-wheel can be faked.
The man claiming to spin the psi-wheel in the video you posted a link to did not prove he did it with psychokinesis.
If it is material it is material. If it is not material it is not material. Something cannot be almost material or almost not material.
This might be shocking news to you, but dreams are not considered as evidence of anything other then the mind is active during sleep.
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People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.
The proof I have requires an opposite approach, to increase your own sensitivity toward the soft-material objects, so you would be then able to perceive them. This unfortunately means, that I can't do it instead of you, if you do it, you will have your proof. But only the right people for this purpose will really do it. This is why we're safe from a terrifying scenario, when hundreds of thousands of people would perceive non-material stuff and they would have their worldview messed up. Capacity of all madhouses would be pretty much exceeded. But fortunately, circumstances doesn't allow people to get their world turned upside down, every time they ask for it.
No change goes easy, and you demand results, on which you could wait a few of decades.
The explanation is focusing the intoxicated consciousness on a "frequency", where the mentioned hallucinated vermins can be seen. This supports the idea of a wide range of "frequencies", on which we exist. Material existence, material perception is the lowest point on this frequency range.
But how mindfreak666 proved it? He just built a psi-wheel and used it exactly like any random psi-wheel experimentator does. He did not expose any attempt to fake it, he didn't fiddle with camera, or with computer effects, he didn't have a hole drilled in his desk, through which an air would flow and turn the psi-wheel.
The other guy didn't indeed claim much, he just showed, that his tools aren't faked, and then sat aside, and the psi-wheel rotated in one direction, then it suddenly stopped, and rotated in another direction, and again completely stopped...well, you saw for yourself.
Yeah, some frames in this video seems to be slightly flawed, but there's no sign that he would pause the recording, spun the psi-wheel, sit back behind the table, and started recording again. This would require an advanced studio techniques.
As for mind, the only difference between sleep and narcosis is, that naturally unaffected brain is able to remember what was in mind. Under narcosis, brain usually doesn't provide such a record, from which a mind could later read.
Beings who deserve worship don't demand it. Beings who demand worship don't deserve it.