'Uncontacted tribe' sighted in Amazon
Posted on: May 30, 2008 - 10:34am
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'Uncontacted tribe' sighted in Amazon
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/05/30/brazil.tribes/index.html
How long before they are now contacted by Christian and Mormon missionaries?
What can be done to stop them? Should scientists contact them, before others do?
Should the Brazilian government and UN protect these people from being contacted? I say yes, send in the military to keep them from being contacted by anyone.
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I think they should just be left alone. They've clearly been getting along fine without us, so I see no reason to crash their party.
They are being protected and it wouldn't be the right of the UN to protect them anyhow. They live within a sovereign country who has authority and is apparently keeping them isolated.
My only problems are that they cannot be forcibly isolated, that they cannot be permanently isolated and that contact is inevitable in either direction. They've already been affected by the world and the world will continue to affect them and it will only become more prevalent. Eventually there won't be a choice but to make contact, hopefully more successfully than contact has been made in the past. Setting up air bases on their land, communicating nothing to them and letting them create cargo cults is hardly ideal. Anyhow, when contact final does occur, I hope it can be positive or have more positive outcomes than historically it has.
I would be very interested in recording the languages of these isolated tribes before their languages die (they almost always do after contact).
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I don't know,preserving them from outside contact seems like making them exibhits.
They're talking like this tribe is a breed of endangered bird.But I guess we aren't going to help much,so might as well leave them alone.
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I agree with jmm in that they've done just fine all these years. Scientists could learn a lot I am sure and missionaries would just want to try to convert them, but any society that has existed independently without any outside interference should be left alone. The only thing we would do is expose them to diseases that they haven't been exposed to and risk killing some. It just isn't worth the risk.
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IIRC, Sting (of The Police fame) got his panties in a bunch maybe twenty years ago when a South American government was going to step in and bring modern medicine, etc, to an indigenous tribe. He thought they ought to be allowed to live in their "natural state." The counter argument was that their natural state included an awful lot of starvation and slow lingering death from disease. Given the choice, the government thought they might prefer not to starve.
It's an interesting question. I'm not sure there's a correct answer.
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I think we should stay away from them but continue to fuck with them from a distance for our amusement.
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I wonder if that tribe has been so isolated that our diseases would wipe them out as soon as contact was made.
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Send robots.
Did you ever see the movie 'The gods must be crazy'? They might worship the robots as gods. Maybe just drop a coke bottle from an airplane and see what happens first. I think maybe you could send in hidden cameras and audio just to study them. But definitely no people for now.
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They've already seen the airplane/helicopter that had photographers in it. If that doesn't scare the shit out of them, I don't know what would.
Anyway, the pictures were released because Peru and Brasil are having a border/logging dispute, and they're using these people as a gambit. There's a group from the UK getting involved and is using the same line, that they're "natural" and "pure" and could possibly die of whatever viruses we've already adapted to.
They're probably also assholes like the Yanomamo.
Hehe.
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But they need to know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. To the missionaries, this is more important than their lives. Maybe they could just airdrop TV sets with televangelist sermons. So they just get the virus of Faith.
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Saw it indeed!
Or we go the opposite way: Send a large armed force in and take their children to be raised elsewhere, in modern environs. Do what you can for the adults. Some will never adapt; leave them be to die naturally.
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here's a pretty interesting link on the subject
http://www.survival-international.org/campaigns/uncontactedtribes
Wow - are they not covered under the Geneva Convention or something? That's just mean.
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I'm going there with a gun and a lighter and a couple of cases of cigarettes. I feel such implements should be sufficient to convince these people that I am their new god, and perhaps I'll finally get the respect and adoration I so obviously deserve.
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Still less cruel than televangelism.
Which you may, until they eat your face to absorb your strength.
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Hence the Euro-Disco.
Geneva's in Europe, right?
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