The Bible Metaphors
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So, a whenever any uneducated theist is given a scripture from the OT that makes God look like a homicidal maniac, he retreats to the safe zone "well it's just a metaphor" where it can be debunked. Most Christians haven't read the bible and can be given nearly any random scripture that they haven't heard of and cannot give a translation for. Lets face it, the average theist is two handles short of a pogo stick and cannot debate their way out of a cardboard box. But, the smarter Christians that can actually read past a 9th grade level can be much more of a challenge. Christians like Baptists who are followers of Jesus "as the teacher of good", can rebuttal much better for "debatable" scriptures. So, I am here to see how everyone else here goes about debating this topic.
Their argument is..
The OT's rules have been lifted by Jesus (II Corinthians 5:17) and became new. Mosses gave laws but Jesus gave truth (John 1:17). God is a the lawgiver and Jesus is the teacher and Gods OT laws have been lifted with the birth of Jesus.
The big problem is that the NT is much better literature than the OT by a huge amount. Jesus is just an all around nice guy. Though, with the only real exception that gays should be killed (Leviticus 20:13). It's hard to find any major flaws from my research. Things like (Luke 19:27) or (Mark 7:10) have been called a parable and not read in full context (which can be interpreted much differently when read in full context).
Anyways, that's a very short nutshell. Want to hear how you guys would go about debunking a NT only Christian.
Thanks,
-IGBY
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Firstly, Welcome!
Well I'd disagree..here's some starters:
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Luke 12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
Oh hay, jesus doesn't condemn slavery.That silly Emancipation Proclamation!
Matthew 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
Great future planning advice there
Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Don't save money? Good luck sending the kids to college
Matthew 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
Real mature jesus
I Timothy 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
I Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
I note homosexuals still aren't going to heaven
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
http://www.ffrf.org/nontracts/jesus.php