Endorsing a specific political candidate [MAILBAG]

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First, by what right do you endorse political candidates without being a
PAC? You really have no business telling the libertarian, conservative, or
free market Atheists how they should vote. You really do not speak for me.
Second, I've been reading Encyclopedia Dramatica, and if it's true--you
claim that anybody with a fiscally conservative paradigm is a de facto
Theist. While I find this hilarious, I'm also a little concerned by it.
Isn't dogmatic inanity the largest part of the reason most of us are
opposed to Theism? It is in my case. Moreover, none of the leadership here
seems to have a degree in political science or economics--in fact, if the
information I received is accurate--Sapient is just an opinionated
high-school graduate, and Kelly is a college drop-out.
So my real point is this, if even 60% of what I've said is true--if you
are endorsing candidates without being a PAC, and without a degree--stop
pretending to speak for me, or any of my fiscally conservative Atheist
friends. You don't.

 

Geez, you read enyclopedia dramatica?  Not exactly a news source, eh?

We as a group don't endorse any specific candidate.  However several of the people running RRS along with a large portion of our community have expressed willingness to vote for Obama.  We consider ourselves more "anti-McCain" than "pro-Obama."  We are not a 501c3 so we have no rules governing us politically however we choose to remain rather silent politically so as not to offend the many different political views of the atheists we align with.  I can handle a vote for an independent, but as far as I'm concerned I don't want to align with anyone who voted for Bush or anyone who will vote for McCain.  If you find yourself in that camp, let's just agree to not run in the same circles.

As for your misinformed idea that I'm pretending to speak for you, maybe you could have spent sometime on my site first where the only person that speaks for me has stated quite a few times that I don't speak for anyone but myself.  All of the other people running this site have stated the same at one point.  Since it wasn't clear for you before, I'll make it abundantly and publicly clear now: I don't speak for anyone but myself.  With that said... anyone voting for McCain is voting to destroy the last little shred we have of this country... ya know... speaking for myself.

Just curious... where did you get the idea that you have to be a PAC to publicly endorse a candidate?  And for the record had you chosen to ask before being a dickface, you'd have found out that I'm fiscally conservative and show up as a Republican or Libertarian on political surveys because of those views.   Doesn't it suck that McCain and Bush don't and won't govern based on that supposed Republican platform piece?


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Shows how retarded some

Shows how retarded some people are. Imagine if he read the stuff I post, since I make Ralph Nader look like Rush Limbaugh!

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Besides, why would Sapient

Besides, why would Sapient be giving someone else their support?


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thingy wrote:Besides, why

thingy wrote:

Besides, why would Sapient be giving someone else their support?

That's awesome. lol.

Unfortunately, he ain't old enough and I'm too busy to be in his cabinet. Now, 2020 if I'm still alive I'd love to be the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

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Yeah Brian, what right do

Yeah Brian, what right do you have to express your opinions on your own website?  You should give a lot more consideration to those who mooch off your bandwidth and demean you with petty insults that belies their own poor political choices.  Sure you're a registered voter and citizen of this country but that doesn't mean you have any right to participate in the Democratic process.  Please fill out the proper forms, in triplicate, send in the registration fee in order to register yourself as a PAC.  If you want to comment on state politics you have to register as a separate PAC so fill out those proper forms in triplicate and send in another registration fee.  Be sure to send in the quarterly statements or else send in a form abolishing your PACs if you no longer wish to express political statements.  You may forgo the establishment of a PAC or PACs by simply registering for university and completing a four year degree in the topics of economics or political science.  We'll accept a degree in Communications since that is the degree Sarah Palin has as well.

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You see, democracy is that easy.


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D-cubed wrote:Yeah Brian,

D-cubed wrote:

Yeah Brian, what right do you have to express your opinions on your own website?  You should give a lot more consideration to those who mooch off your bandwidth and demean you with petty insults that belies their own poor political choices.  Sure you're a registered voter and citizen of this country but that doesn't mean you have any right to participate in the Democratic process.  Please fill out the proper forms, in triplicate, send in the registration fee in order to register yourself as a PAC.  If you want to comment on state politics you have to register as a separate PAC so fill out those proper forms in triplicate and send in another registration fee.  Be sure to send in the quarterly statements or else send in a form abolishing your PACs if you no longer wish to express political statements.  You may forgo the establishment of a PAC or PACs by simply registering for university and completing a four year degree in the topics of economics or political science.  We'll accept a degree in Communications since that is the degree Sarah Palin has as well.

Be sure to bring the proper forms to the voting booth to prove that you have attained to correct paperwork in order to vote.  Only those forms signed by a notary public with at least three witnesses will be accepted.  A non-refundable fee of $10 will be required to process the paperwork, only credit cards, checks or money orders will be accepted.

You see, democracy is that easy.

 

Been reading Douglas Adams lately, have you?

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Oh... dude... I just

Oh... dude... I just realized I'm old enough to be president.

So, for the record, I would like to publicly state that I have no desire whatsoever to be president, but if I get enough write-in votes, I'll take one for the team.

 

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I'm not sure if I am - is

I'm not sure if I am - is the age 35 requirement while running or is it ok as long as you turn 35 before the innaugaration? I turn 35 on Jan 8.

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Kevin R Brown wrote: Been

Kevin R Brown wrote:

 Been reading Douglas Adams lately, have you?

Good call, I was pulling from Hitchhiker.  I could have mentioned the "Beware of leopard" sign but that would have been too obvious.


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Quote:First, by what right

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First, by what right do you endorse political candidates without being a PAC?

Well, aside from the fact that RRS doesn't officially support any candidate, um, this is America, and we're allowed to support whoever we want.

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Second, I've been reading Encyclopedia Dramatica, and if it's true--you claim that anybody with a fiscally conservative paradigm is a de facto Theist.

Oh my fucking God!

Okay, first of all, fiscally, I'm a moderate conservative.

Second, do you always get your facts from Encyclopedia Dramatica? Yeah, that's so reliable isn't it?

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It is in my case. Moreover, none of the leadership here seems to have a degree in political science or economics

Sigh...

Our revels now are ended. These our actors, | As I foretold you, were all spirits, and | Are melted into air, into thin air; | And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, | The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, | The solemn temples, the great globe itself, - Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, | And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, | Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff | As dreams are made on, and our little life | Is rounded with a sleep. - Shakespeare