Do single male atheists get laid, or not?
I've noticed a change lately in the characterization of single male atheists (SMA's). For centuries christians asserted something to the effect that guys become atheists because it somehow makes it easier to engage in sexual promiscuity (though that hasn't worked out in my case). This sounds like a backhanded compliment of sorts. It suggests that in the christians' fantasy construct about "atheists," we enjoy some kind of sexual superiority which makes them envious.
Yet on the other hand, I've read where christians now sometimes characterize SMA's as sexually unappealing losers. Ironically the same christians tend to preach sexual abstinence before marriage, so why would they ridicule SMA's for our alleged disability in getting laid?
Has anyone else noticed this change in apologetic arguments against the character of atheists?
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Well, speaking as a sexually satisfied SMA, I can say that I have an easier time getting laid as an atheist than I did as a Christian. Then again, I was much more shy when I was a Christian, so it might have nothing to do with my religion or lack thereof.
There was another thread a few months ago where we discussed sexual inhibitions and came to a rough agreement that atheists are probably more uninhibited on average than Christians, so maybe they are prone to enjoying sex more, or more easily.
I'm not aware of any studies specifically addressing this issue. Trust me, when one comes out, I'll probably have a lot to say about it.
As far as popular perceptions, I find that Christian perceptions of atheists are contradictory. As you point out, they apparently think of us as sex-crazed demons and loser-geek social washouts all at the same time. I'm not sure how that works, but then... that's religion for you. Contradictory but still true, apparently.
Ok... that last paragraph isn't really fair. I think some Christians think of us as losers and some think of us as sex crazed swingers.
I can't find any noticable difference, either in the scientific literature or my own experience, between theists and atheists, in how much sex they have, or with how many partners.
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I agree; I don't think I ever really had that discussion with girls in my single days. Maybe I always hung out with artsy liberal agnostic types to begin with? (ahh! the memories...).
I do think that people who really buy the religious schtick can sabotage their own sexploits.
That reminds me, when I was 14 I used to work in an italian restaurant and this older really catholic south
philly guy would always talk about the "serious" nice girlfriend that he wouldn't have sex with which he was going to marry and
all the fat chicks that he would bone on the side, Just like the John Leguizamo character in the movie "summer of sam".
He once told a story of this girl who wanted chocolate before giving him oral because it would make her hyper!
Wha' ? You don't bone fat chicks? Really?
Just sharing.
Eden had a 25% murder rate and incest was rampant.
I would tend to suspect that given a large enough population, a bell curve will inevitably emerge.
However, I can only speak for myself. I have had the same girlfriend for 24 years and I get laid about as often as anyone who has been married that long. In other words, I have a folder in my bookmarks just for all of the porn sites that I spend way more time on than is probably healthy and if I do get laid, the word “discrete” will be involved.
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Shit, dude; I thought I've been in a relationship a long time, but you put me to shame. Seven years seems like childs play.
When I decided to not believe anymore, start studying and become a hopelessly endless bastion for thought, I became a complete asshole; a surly, irritated asshole. Ever since, I've been hit on not only by many women, but the occassional gay guy. I guess the stench of prick just draws more attention of the opposite sex and sometimes it wafts to those of the YMCA persuasion.
Wish I had that much luck. Although a great deal of my social akwardness is probably spawned from my hearing loss and the fact I can't hear a damn thing in a pubic space.
I don't have a problem with it. Although I don't advertise the fact that I'm an atheist for that very reason. A female friend once wanted to be friends with benefits and then changed her mind because I wasn't a Christian. After that I decided I wouldn't mention it until after I had sex with them.
After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him.
The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.
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A meaty pair of thighs will do that.
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As with any argument of this kind (or non-argument), the atheist targets couldn't win if we tried. Either we're getting all the ass (true), and we're "sinful", or we're getting no ass (obviously false) and we're unattractive. Looks like a lame deflection to me.
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fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
Translation: Run for the hills.
Either 1) She actually doesn't care about Christian morals, in which case, why does she care if you're an atheist
Or
2) She does care about Christian morals, in which case, she views the FWB thing as a temporary stop on the road to marriage.
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Now that is a hypocrite. Selective admissions for an otherwise casually available vagina based on religious requirements is eight different kinds of fucked up.
"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men."
--Bertrand Russell
Oh and just to throw in here, I've had some success with a line crafted specifically for this situation, one I claim invention for, as a matter of fact. The following is paraphrased:
She: So you don't believe in God?
I: Nope, but I assume you've heard the expression about how a man can make the mistake of putting a woman on a pedestal?
She: Yes.
I: Well, think about it. My pedestal is completely empty. You'd have room to stretch out.
There is of course, a double meaning to the punchline. I'd recommend use only with women whose sense of humor is somewhat bawdy and brought out by strong drink.
"The whole conception of God is a conception derived from ancient Oriental despotisms. It is a conception quite unworthy of free men."
--Bertrand Russell
i was already an atheist by the time i hit puberty and well before i lost my virginity, so i have nothing to use for comparison. but my sex life has been neither excessive nor disappointing. it's been as enjoyable and interesting as anyone elses, with the average/expected ups and downs.
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Ok, people this is hillarious! Dragonfire was on the phone with me last night stressing over tracking down his username/password so he could post. Come to find out it's in the "I'm not getting laid" thread. I should have guessed.
(The unending scifi jokes have nothing to do with his hearing loss, either )
This is far more than mere suspicion:
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My sex life is, by and large, non-existent; howevever, I have a strong body of evidence supporting the notion that this has nothing to do with my unwillingness to suck the toes of a deity.
Once again, we find it rather difficult to substantiate any conclusion proposed to stem from a single premise ( "I don't believe in deities" ).
- Leon Trotsky, Last Will & Testament
February 27, 1940
Sure got laid lots, right now in a self imposed celibacy, however I my friends and I knew how the game worked. At the time 18 - 22, and it was 2 things, getting into the clubs for free, and getting that message out to the girls at a few catholic schools. That was it really, of course dressing up great helps as well, and of course being able to get bottle service, but hey in those days it was all about quantity and not quality, which is something that after Feb, I shall start seeking again.
On a side note I know many "christian" friends of mine that got laid lots as well.
I don't know what studies there are about the average education of a skeptic/atheist vs a theist. But I can say having been to the Atheist convention in DC that it DID, as far as appearances, resemble a Si Fi convention, with the aception of a couple hotties.
I'm not saying that as a blanket statement. But there may be some truth to the stereotype that good looking people dont have to rely so much on brains whereas less atractive people who are more educated rely more on their brains.
But as far as the OP is concerned, I wouldn't give a crap less why Christians think you do or don't get laid. The more fundy of the clan see your fun parts as evil based on a fictional book and fictional being.
I don't know which comedian made this analogy but, "What kind of design is it to put an entertainment center in the middle of a seuage system."
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I recall a similar quote from 'forgetting sarah marshall'?
"Let me just say that if God was a city planner he would not put a playground next to a sewage system!"
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Oh I only wish. In my case it's bad genetics, hearing loss and a bionic ear.
I'm an IS student. I know how to track down my username and password
And I try not to show my geekhood if I can't understand what the other person is saying.
Anyway, you had your chance.
Damnit, Hamby! Warn a guy beforehand!
I just snarked coffee out my nose. It fuckin' hurts.
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Of course atheist men get laid.
And for the times when the vagina is in short supply, atheist men are capable of designing and building an army of sex slave robots, completely anatomically correct, and with all the holes real.
P.S. I heard they are thinking about making animatronic Real Dolls someday. One step closer to sex slave robot armies! WoOoOoOoo!!!
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Yeah, hon... I've had about a thousand chances with you. You've never had one with me.
So could all these atheist men that are not getting laid (aside from Dragonfire) like PM their numbers to me or something...
I've never really been that active, since I hate most humans in person and avoid any conversation rituals, cause they are boring. However, I think that I have been hit on more as an atheist, since I'm not so uptight and sport a great soul patch, so I would say that if I wasn't such an fricken asshole that yeah I would be doing more tthsatatst. My mouse hand is tired.
{Yeah, hon... I've had about a thousand chances with you. You've never had one with me. }
You're just denying what you know to be true in your heart.
First I have to say that this is a very interesting subject that directly relates to many of us. I think christians are saying that they could get more women if they want, but they don't want to because they think it's wrong. This is an argument that can be applied to many things, but is most commonly seen in children. I don't think that someones lack of religion would make them more or less appealing. Some of them are just jelous that we don't have to follow the same rules and that angers them.
Actually I'm resisting the urge to edit your post.
In other words.... "I could dance like that, too.... if I felt like it..."
I love it!
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