GSP Dominates BJ Penn

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GSP Dominates BJ Penn

I know Prozac is probably going to be the only guy here who cares, but Georges St. Pierre just completely schooled BJ Penn, and it was a beautiful thing to see. If you look at the guys GSP trains with, you knew what the outcome would be, but the pure systematic dominance was exactly what GSP needed to do to shut BJ up about how great he is.

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BJ's a great lightweight -

BJ's a great lightweight - GSP's a great fighter.

Penn may get there someday but he's got some growing up to do.

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  GSP seems to be an

  GSP seems to be an extremely gifted fighter who also never takes his opponents lightly.  He also seems to be one of the more classy fighters in terms of his sportsmanship ( ie, he's not a loudmouth. )    Nothing against BJ Penn but GSP was clearly the better fighter all the way around.


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Something seemed off with BJ

Something seemed off with BJ to me.  I kept thinking he had something wrong with him (ie. flu, etc.)  There was that drama of him taking a short vacation while he was supposed to be training too though, so maybe he really was just unprepaired.   I have always liked BJ especially since I practically grew up in Hawaii so I was super disapointed with his performance.

The one thing that struck me about those two before the fight was the difference in their natural weight.  GSP walks around at something like 30 pounds heavier than BJ does since BJ is stepping up a weight class, and trying to put on weight, while GSP was cutting.  BJ has no business fighting the best, and biggest at that weight class.

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Next fight

I am hoping that GSP gets to fight Anderson Silva, that will be probably one of the best fights of the century (ok so we are only 9 years in the new century but still). BJ just talked to much, his biggest problem is his stamina, and he doens't have it for 5 rounds, GSP simply over powered him and was able to get around his ground defence (helps when you train with the best wrestlers available) and just did a ground and pound on BJ. Sure GSP underestimated Serra for that one fight, but there was no way he was going to ever do that with any other fighter.


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Oh, so THAT'S what was wrong with BJ

Have you guys seen the controversy over GSP being greased up during the fight?  Someone from the athletic commission made his corner towel him off between rounds but apparently the vaseline was still on his skin enough to make him more slippery that next round.  To me that would explain Penn's mental state, knowing that his ju-jitsu was ineffective from the beginning. 

I realize that GSP dominated in the stand-up as well, and that BJ may have lost reguardless.  The thing is, knowing that your opponent has an unfair advantage, and that your gameplan you've worked months on is out the window, could definitely throw a fighter off his game.

Here's a link to an article that shows Penn's lawyer's letter to the commission:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/2/4/749402/bj-penn-s-lawyer-asks-neva

GSP's responce.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/2/5/750437/quote-of-the-day-georges-s

Dana White weighs in

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/2/4/748951/quote-of-the-day-dana-whit

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TonyZXT wrote:I realize that

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I realize that GSP dominated in the stand-up as well

Yeah, he did. And he's naturally 30 pounds heavier, and he's stronger, and there was more sweat on both of them than any grease by the time BJ's guard started slipping, so the idea that he was greasing himself up is ridiculous.

Second of all, did you see him pass BJ's guard about a hundred times? How would grease have helped with that? How about when he took BJ down all those times? Would grease really have helped him? The elbows to the face?

There was a reason that BJ was discouraged, sure - he was getting his ass handed to him early on, and he started to gas against a much stronger man. Besides, any time he went for the high guard, GSP didn't slide him off or something, he postured up and wailed on BJs head. If anything, the grease would have helped BJ blocking those hands coming at his face. So while Dana White has to make sure to say that greasing isn't allowed, he's probably not going to go after one of his fighters for some pretend "advantage", when the advantages GSP had were clear.

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latincanuck wrote:I am

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I am hoping that GSP gets to fight Anderson Silva, that will be probably one of the best fights of the century

I don't see that happening. It's a lose-lose for Dana White. If GSP wins, that just embarrasses everyone in Silva's weight class. In the much more likely event that GSP would lose (Anderson Silva is 4 inches taller and fights 15 pounds heavier), all the UFC would have is confirmation that weight classes are there for a reason. The win wouldn't mean anything to Silva, considering his amazing athleticism.

No, it's far better for the UFC to have the most dominant fighters in select weight classes. That way, Dana gets to say he has the best stable, and (with the possible exception of Fedor) he's right.

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latincanuck wrote:

I am hoping that GSP gets to fight Anderson Silva, that will be probably one of the best fights of the century

I don't see that happening. It's a lose-lose for Dana White. If GSP wins, that just embarrasses everyone in Silva's weight class. In the much more likely event that GSP would lose (Anderson Silva is 4 inches taller and fights 15 pounds heavier), all the UFC would have is confirmation that weight classes are there for a reason. The win wouldn't mean anything to Silva, considering his amazing athleticism.

No, it's far better for the UFC to have the most dominant fighters in select weight classes. That way, Dana gets to say he has the best stable, and (with the possible exception of Fedor) he's right.

Dana White stated that he had another 'super' fight lined up for GSP if he beat Penn. I can only image he meant Silva, although GSP has now to get through Alves which won't be a walk over by any means.

Silva wants to retire within the next 18 months so what I can see happening is a fight with GSP at UFC 100. GSP is fantastic but I think Silva will destroy him quickly due to the strength, weight and reach advantange. If Matt Sera can knockout GSP then Silva is really going to test him!

I'd love to see Fedor against Lesnar.


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Badbark wrote:Silva wants to

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Silva wants to retire within the next 18 months so what I can see happening is a fight with GSP at UFC 100. GSP is fantastic but I think Silva will destroy him quickly due to the strength, weight and reach advantange. If Matt Sera can knockout GSP then Silva is really going to test him!

Yeah, I don't think that's much of a fair fight, I have to agree. But it would be much more of an interesting fight than Penn vs GSP, where you just knew GSP was going to crush the guy.

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I'd love to see Fedor against Lesnar.

Oh shit, yes. I'd like to see it before Fedor's 35th birthday, though. I don't see Fedor's style being as applicable as Couture's into his later years.

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