Global Warming deniers
Posted on: March 27, 2009 - 3:58am
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Global Warming deniers
I was listing to NPR the other day and the guy that was talking ( I think it was Jim Hansen ) a former scientist for NASA,and he was saying that people in the media and the people in politics who put out this message that global warming either doesn't exist or that its due to natural causes ,should be sued.what do you think ? 
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Sued for what?
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For doing harm to Humanity,I guess
By that reasoning shouldn't we sue prominent figures who promote creationism? That's hardly going to happen now is it. How would you sue a global warming denier anyway? They do have freedom of speech and the right to their opinions. If we went around punishing people for thinking the wrong thing we'd be like..oh I don't know..the Inquisition?
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Survival of the species is far to important to have misinformation being dished out to the populous,its like when the tobacco companies said there was no link between their product and cancer,and they were sued .
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Freedom of speech is not unlimited and if its misuse threatens the security of the state (or the planet) it is already illegal.
The Daily Mail (trash rightwing paper in the UK) campaign on the non-existant threat of the MMR vaccine results in the deaths of 100's of kids and their editors should have faced manslaughter charges
I have no problem with people who say global warming doesn't happen. In truth we are still gathering infomation. Although we are quite sure about it, however i'm sure they said the same when people were saying we are heading for the next ice age. I do think it is happening though. What I do have a problem with is if the people who think it isn't happening don't take steps incase they are wrong. If they are right they should still take the measures because there are other things that the release of green house gasses cause. This issue it is better to err on the safe side. The consequenses are to great not to. Then again even most people who do think it is happening don't do anything to help either. There are far more and better things you can do than not owning a SUV. Should they be sued? No that is just silly. If they are right they will eventually produce conclusive evidance for it. To sue people who don't hold the position would be to silence one side of the debate. If I am correct that is not a very clever thing to do.
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Well, my first thought is that “Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation” (SLAPP) are already illegal in many jurisdictions. Then too, even where there is not already a law against them, the common rules for most courts allow potential defendants to file a pre-trial SLAPP motion.
Once SLAPP has been invoked, the level of scrutiny paid to a plaintiff shoots up to large levels and defendants pretty much just get to sit back and watch the show. Heck but most places, defendants don't have to do anything at all until a judge decides if the suit is being filed not for redress of a real grievance but rather to harass, intimidate and exhaust the defendants.
Also, the press and the bloggers go nuts over these things. Once the SLAPP motion is rolling, much attention is paid to those who file the law suits. Consider what happened with Scientology as an example. They tried to SLAPP a few web sites who were distributing “secret documents”. Now you can find them on google, even high resolution images of L. Ron Hubbard's own handwriting. Yah, that worked out well for them.
My second thought is that if someone has nothing useful to say about global warming and they can only think of how they can abuse the courts in a lame attempt to silence the opposition, then “bring it bitches”. The blog-o-sphere is waiting to mock and deride you for your total lack of thought.
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I have been quite completely convinced that it happens and is happening. I spent a good year or three debating it, which helped me learn all of the evidence supporting and against.
The only thing noone has convinced me of is whether it's a good thing or a bad thing for humanity. I see a bit of both. My final judgement is therefore inconclusive.
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I think what you have is a disillusioned scientist who has to deal with ignorant masses.
He is justifiably frustrated. That's all though.
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