Out-of-Body Experiences

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Out-of-Body Experiences

Here's a case of an out-of-body experience that was validated by researcher Dr. Charles Tart in a scientifically-controlled experiment.

http://www.near-death.com/tart.html

 

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cervello_marcio wrote:

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Your response simply confirms my assertion that what purports to be "scientific skepticism" on this forum is nothing more than a faith-commitment to the dogma of materialism.

Your refusal to admit that materialism is the only thing able to be tested in a real laboratory as well as your insistence to flood these boards with laughable (and curiously not peer-reviewed) "studies" simply confirms my assertion that you are blind, dumb, and deaf to reason.

Materialism is a metaphysical position, not a scientifically-established fact.

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cervello_marcio wrote:A

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A clever ruse indeed, for the only evidence for no peer reviewed studies would be the lack of peer reviewed studies. Therefore he has nothing to offer you

Parapsychology has a peer-reviewed publication - "The Journal of Parapsychology." And as I have already stated, parapsychology is accepted as a bonafide science by the AAAS (the world's largest scientific society). I cite sources; you post pictures of cats (not that I have anything against cats). That's the difference between my posts and yours.

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The Journal of Parapsychology is a semi-annual peer-reviewed[1] publication "devoted primarily to the original publication of experimental results and other research findings in extrasensory perception and psychokinesis

(source: Wikipedia: Journal of Parapsychology)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Parapsychology

 

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A clever ruse indeed, for the only evidence for no peer reviewed studies would be the lack of peer reviewed studies. Therefore he has nothing to offer you

Parapsychology has a peer-reviewed publication - "The Journal of Parapsychology." And as I have already stated, parapsychology is accepted as a bonafide science by the AAAS (the world's largest scientific society). I cite sources; you post pictures of cats (not that I have anything against cats). That's the difference between my posts and yours.

Lol. The section you underlined wasn't even addressed to you. 

I can read and you can't. That's the difference between us. 

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Paisley wrote:The reason why

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The reason why parapsychology has been accepted into the AAAS is because the society believes that it has produced results. That's the bottom line.

Given the fact that parapsychology hasn't resulted in a single finding in a real study, all you are doing is pointing out how fallible the AAAS obviously is.

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Paisley wrote:What evidence

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What evidence do you have that parapsychology doesn't have peer reviewed studies? Please cite sources.

This doesn't work with gods, yet you assume that it works with studies now. Back it up by presenting a peer reviewed study that shows results! If you have one, don't hold out on the cats!

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Paisley wrote:Yeah, what

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Yeah, what evidence do you have? Science has never proven that the physical is actually...well...physical.  And certainly, science has never proven that mental phenomena are physical. I believe you are conflating terms "scientific materialism" (which is an ideology and metaphysical position) with "science." The two terms are not exactly interchangeable.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Awesome! I have every goddamned thing in the world as proof! Including that silly little PC you are typing these inane responses on! What are you, a freshmen getting a stiffy in PHIL101 when he firsts finds out about Decartes? LOL

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thatonedude wrote:Paisley

thatonedude wrote:

Paisley wrote:

The reason why parapsychology has been accepted into the AAAS is because the society believes that it has produced results. That's the bottom line.

Given the fact that parapsychology hasn't resulted in a single finding in a real study, all you are doing is pointing out how fallible the AAAS obviously is.

And all you are doing is pointing out how enslaved you and your ilk are to the dogma of materialism.

Parapsychology is beyond the proof stage.

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The Association states that an increasing number of parapsychologists are moving beyond proof-oriented research, because they believe experimental success has already been established, and instead looking at more detailed factors to better understand the phenomena.[33]

(source: Wikipedia: Parapsychology)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology

 

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thatonedude wrote:Paisley

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What evidence do you have that parapsychology doesn't have peer reviewed studies? Please cite sources.

This doesn't work with gods, yet you assume that it works with studies now. Back it up by presenting a peer reviewed study that shows results! If you have one, don't hold out on the cats!

Here's the link to the peer-reviewed publication.

http://www.rhine.org/journal.shtml

Here's a video presentation given by parapsychologist Dean Radin of the results. I suggest you educate yourself. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_O9Qiwqew

 

 

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Paisley wrote:And all you

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And all you are doing is pointing out how enslaved you and your ilk are to the dogma of materialism.

Parapsychology is beyond the proof stage.

Ah, dude, you are such a gullible little fruit loop! Keep throwing those assertions about your favorite brands of irrational nonsense!

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The Association states that an increasing number of parapsychologists are moving beyond proof-oriented research, because they believe experimental success has already been established, and instead looking at more detailed factors to better understand the phenomena.

 

LOL! Because they can't fucking come up with one goddamned piece of actual evidence! Good job, guys!

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Paisley wrote:Here's the

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Here's the link to the peer-reviewed publication.

http://www.rhine.org/journal.shtml

Feel free to shell out some cash and buy me a membership! Hell, just mail me your copies. You have actually reviewed this evidence, right? You aren't just blindly posting a link you found in google, right?

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Here's a video presentation given by parapsychologist Dean Radin of the results. I suggest you educate yourself. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_O9Qiwqew

"Scientists don't take us seriously because of bias, and not because of our epic failure to do actual rigorous research."

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thatonedude wrote:Paisley

thatonedude wrote:

Paisley wrote:

Yeah, what evidence do you have? Science has never proven that the physical is actually...well...physical.  And certainly, science has never proven that mental phenomena are physical. I believe you are conflating terms "scientific materialism" (which is an ideology and metaphysical position) with "science." The two terms are not exactly interchangeable.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Awesome! I have every goddamned thing in the world as proof! Including that silly little PC you are typing these inane responses on! What are you, a freshmen getting a stiffy in PHIL101 when he firsts finds out about Decartes? LOL

Science reduces all matter to probability waves and/or dimensionless geometric points (quantum theory). Clearly, mathematical abstractions are not physical. And you have no scientific evidence whatsoever that mental phenomena are physical. Materialism is a metaphysical assumption, not a scientific fact. 

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Paisley wrote:Science

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Science reduces all matter to probability waves and/or dimensionless geometric points (quantum theory). Clearly, mathematical abstractions are not physical. And you have no scientific evidence whatsoever that mental phenomena are physical. Materialism is a metaphysical assumption, not a scientific fact. 

Nice! I'm forwarding this to some physicist friends of mine! You get to go on the "don't know fuck all about physics" wall of shame!

 

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Guys, Paisley is right.

Guys, Paisley is right. Parapsychology is legit, and so is psi. You guys are going to have to accept that and drop your worship of materialism if you don't want to look like total dingleberries. 

Now here, let me show you one of the photographs from my latest trials in my super scientific parapsychology experiment.

 

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cervello_marcio wrote:Listen

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Listen to them! by Khorne! LISTEN TO THE VOICES!

DO AS THEY SAY!


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thatonedude wrote:Paisley

thatonedude wrote:

Paisley wrote:

Science reduces all matter to probability waves and/or dimensionless geometric points (quantum theory). Clearly, mathematical abstractions are not physical. And you have no scientific evidence whatsoever that mental phenomena are physical. Materialism is a metaphysical assumption, not a scientific fact. 

Nice! I'm forwarding this to some physicist friends of mine! You get to go on the "don't know fuck all about physics" wall of shame!

Let me know when you're able to formulate some kind of counterargument.

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Paisley wrote:thatonedude

Paisley wrote:

thatonedude wrote:

Paisley wrote:

Science reduces all matter to probability waves and/or dimensionless geometric points (quantum theory). Clearly, mathematical abstractions are not physical. And you have no scientific evidence whatsoever that mental phenomena are physical. Materialism is a metaphysical assumption, not a scientific fact. 

Nice! I'm forwarding this to some physicist friends of mine! You get to go on the "don't know fuck all about physics" wall of shame!

Let me know when you're able to formulate some kind of counterargument.

Going to point out that mental phenomena are purely speculative here, just for kicks. We are talking about assumptions, right? 

"Do not, as some ungracious pastors do, show me the steep and thorny way to heaven. Whiles, like a puff'd and reckless libertine, himself the primrose path of dalliance treads. And recks not his own rede."