Newest Bond film politically correct.
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Newest Bond film politically correct.
| I just caught the beginning of "Casino Royal" on TV. WHAT THE FFFFFFFFFF? Lets back peddle for a sec. Admittedly the early Bond films were tongue and cheek humor. But the later films had Hali Barry as strong heroin, and an Asian woman saving Bond at certain times in yet another. Not to mention the future head of the British Secret Service in the series is a woman. I AM ALL FOR WOMAN POWER! I wish I had Xena Warrior Princess as my girlfriend in high school when all the jocks picked on me. And Lucy Lawless looked hot in that leather kilt and metal chest plate. BUT, in this "Casino Royal" the opening credits. they skipped the women in silhouette. W AND T AND F? We have no problem with infomercials late night with woman saying " I wont date a "small guy" but if he gets this pill and gets larger I'll beat any Asian guy in a Conney Island Hot Dog eating contest......." Yet it is wrong for a woman to be sexy and strong? What is next? Bond can't shoot people because it teaches violence? And all that Metallica I listened to made me a serial killer? A sexy women depicted in media IS NOT A CRIME! I could see 50 years from now a Bond film where he merely reads Dr Sues to kindergartners for two hours. WHAT THE HECK ARE THEY DOING TO A CLASSIC? I don't get it? Arnold blowing people up, Jason slicing people, all that is ok. But show a sexy woman......NOOOO NOOOO...... |
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Relax Brian.
What they've done to the "classic" that was the dreadful Bond franchise, basically since Dr. No in my opinion, is to totally reinvent it, so that the basic premise of the badass MI5 operative, which works, has been stripped of all the childish, inane crap that was added more and more over the years, until the whole franchise was a literally nausiating comercial for Seiko watches and Nokia cell phones.
Now, to send a strong message that Casino Royal was not the crappy bullshit that the Bond franchise has been, certainly throughout my lifetime, they made a title sequence that immediately would say: THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE USED TO SEEING IN A BOND FILM.
It's not like the movie doesn't have loads of sex and violence, of course it does, it's just the first movie to make Bond an actually interesting character!
Sure I like hot ladies in a title sequence as much as the next guy, but if they skip them, to tell me right off the bat that this as an actual movie for grown ups, and not just a toy comercial for manboys, then it's no skin off my back that they leave out the ladies in the opening sequence.
I mean Megan Fox is hot. Really hot in fact.
But her hotness, powerful as it is, still couldn't stop me from projectile vomiting at the screen when I saw Transformers 2, nor could it stop me from vowing to punch Michael Bay in the kidneys, if ever I am unfortunate enough to meet the sad little wank.
You see, sexy women, or just sex in general, are to movies, what olive oil is to cooking: it is absolutely delicious, and adds a flavour to most dishes that they would be bland and superflous without. But a few dishes get along just fine without olive oil at all, and olive oil on is own, isn't of much use, except for a quick wank...
Perhaps that last bit of the comparison doesn't work completely... or does it?
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I don't think the James Bond movies were crappy at all, except for the Timothy Dalton movies. Die another Day was sort of stupid because of the disappearing car but other than that the Pierce Brosnan movies were pretty good. What does it matter if they have silhouettes of naked women in the credits? Why be such a James Bond purist? It also didn't really have a car chase scene or a title with the words "gold", "live", "day", "die" or "kill" in it like almost every other Bond movie but stuff get blowed up and my brain like good.
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Well, I for one am glad that they are moving away from the testrostorene driven over the top ones like Die Another Day.
The Bond franchise was getting into the generic action movies with girls and guns and might turn into like the GI Joe movie, but I'm glad that changed with Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace
The Bond franchise pretty much invented that. Ian Flemming was obsessed with brands, misogynistic conquest, and the action that he never actually saw.
I agree, though, that Dr. No is watchable, as is the one with George Lazenby (for the sheer silliness of it) and anything with Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan just didn't happen. It didn't. You can't tell me it did.
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Hey, the invisible car was filthy. Don't diss on the car.
Our revels now are ended. These our actors, | As I foretold you, were all spirits, and | Are melted into air, into thin air; | And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, | The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, | The solemn temples, the great globe itself, - Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, | And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, | Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff | As dreams are made on, and our little life | Is rounded with a sleep. - Shakespeare
Why am I not surprised by your response?
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It is not like me to jump all over a fellow atheist, but WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING!
I never claimed I wanted Plato or Oedipus plots out of the Bond Films. Chick flicks of today can be as sappy and void of substance as any other motif.
If you are asking me to give up T&A in a Bond film..... that would be like asking me to cut my own nuts off. I just don't want the opposite sex to think they have to wear Burkas to think that is the only way the media should respect them.
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The only Bond films that made me want to puke were the Sean Connery ones. I don't know how a guy with his horrible acting skills or lisp could play any part, much less a serious one. I wouldn't hire him to play a corporate mascot at a burger joint.
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James Bond is hardly a serious role. But I think he was convincing because you could really believe that Sean Connery was a misogynistic sociopath. At that time in his life, it probably wasn't a stretch.
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Having not seen it, I'm no longer sure I want to.
P.S. Sean Connery is, was, and will always be the best Bond with the best movies. If you disagree, I'll buy a gas chamber so you can off yourself painlessly.
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HAHAHAHAHA!
Almost none of the James Bonds were good actors, and they're not supposed to be. They're supposed to be entertaining. In the same way, you don't watch Transformers for an awesome plot and character development.
Our revels now are ended. These our actors, | As I foretold you, were all spirits, and | Are melted into air, into thin air; | And, like the baseless fabric of this vision, | The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, | The solemn temples, the great globe itself, - Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve, | And, like this insubstantial pageant faded, | Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff | As dreams are made on, and our little life | Is rounded with a sleep. - Shakespeare
Buying you a gas chamber to off yourself would be pointless because I think you already inhaled the gas.
SEAN CONNERY?
I would rather watch the Old Time Gospel Hour than any of the Connery Bond films.
(Note to all readers, just being silly. I just don't get him, never been a fan)
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The penis mightier.
There are not nearly enough attractive half naked (or completely naked) men in the Bond movies. This is extremely problematic, never mind politically correct. who cares about the women? There have been and will be plenty of women. I believe there was more attractive male 'nudity' in ...17 Again and I don't particularly like Zac Efron (thought you'd never see that name written on these forums?).
BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
That's because you're not into girls.
I seriously need a drum set!
Lol. He's always been one of my favourite actors, and he fit the role better than anyone. People here saying he can't act have no taste.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Because I've been here too long?
Don't make me call you a theist! Only one who is delusional thinks Sean Connery can act.
I would rather have my nuts cut off than watch any Connery film. I simply don't get it.
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I liked Sean Connery in a movie made in the early seventies. I believe it was called The Man Who Would Be King. It co-starred Michael Cain and was set during the Victorian era. They travelled to Afganistan and basically had a mind blowing adventure. Pure escapism, but well done.
You can not like him, but you can't say he can't act, because he's one of the best. He might just be the best. He's one of the few big stars out there who can actually play more than one character, and do it well.
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Acting is an art, and like any art, it is a matter of taste. My sarcastic remarks about him are mine and mine alone. I simply don't like him as an actor and have never liked any of his movies.
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I think the two new Bond films have saved the franchise. The movies had become parodies of themselves, and totally uninteresting until these two came along. If I wanted to watch 90 minutes of T&A mixed with corny action and bad jokes, I would pull out Pirates: Stagnetti's Revenge.
If I want to see 90 minutes of a bad-ass super-spy, I would watch the new Bond films.
On another note: Leave Sean alone!!!!
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
Fair enough.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
No, you haven't been here long enough. We really do enjoy having you here.
If anything, the fact that you take our punches and don't take it personally says a lot about how we can all be ourselves without fear.
Back on topic though. I think everyone has some sort of entertainment that is vacuous like sappy sugar that is as good as a artery clogging bacon cheeseburger. It's nice once and a while, but you shouldn't eat it every day. The Bond Films are one of my favorite escapes. For others it may be WWE.
I don't think we have to be tightwads and prudes all the time to have a good time. There is nothing wrong with looking at tits and ass. That doesn't mean that women are objects or have no brains. It simply means I have eyes.
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Just accept that Sean Connery sucks and I wont have to water board you.
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NEVER! Sean is a pimple......nay.....a boil on the Bond serious. The casting director who put him in that role should be brought up on charges of "crimes against the Academy".
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Professional wrestling is like aiming for gay and missing.
A bunch of men wearing tight clothing, grabbing at eachother and covered in sweat?
I think there is a sport I finally understand.
Theism is why we can't have nice things.
Two words, my friend: Turkish wrestling.
...
You're welcome.
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
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Neva!
You are welcome to attempt it, but be warned that the results may not be what you had intended.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Hot almost naked chicks are the only competition in wrestling that could be mistaken for sexual. They do make an effort at sexy poses and such. But wrestling being gay in general is the most ridiculous attack on it I've ever heard. Anyone who says wrestling is gay is either a homophobe or has never actually watched it.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
I didn't actually suggest that professional wrestling was gay, I said it was like aiming for gay and missing. Y'know, like:
"Okay, do we have the muscle-bound guys?"
"Check."
"The oil?"
"Check."
"And we're putting them in speedos?"
"Yeah. Sometimes other stuff, but mostly speedos."
"Okay. And not only are they going to grapple with one another, they're going to have a soap opera about it?"
"Yeah."
"And straight guys watch this?"
"Yup. Tons of them."
...
"Wow."
"Yeah."
"Dude, you're scary good."
"Sometimes I scare myself."
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
With those qualifications, you could be referring to MMA, basketball, swimming, and boxing too.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
The fact is, most sports seem homoerotic. A lot of them just plain are. From a gay guy's perspective, the straight guys playing the sports aren't fooling anyone. Cameras in dark corners will prove me correct. This is not an article of the Gay Agenda.
BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
Homoerotic ? As long as the fights are real ( and not "worked" ) I couldn't care less about the fighters' love life. Incidentally, I much prefer to watch matches that exclusively employ strikes. Also, feel free to psychologically examine my sport preferences....I'm sure there's some bizarre freudian motivation festering within my psyche.
There's oiling up in those sports? I know boxing and MMA have the vaseline on the face so the fight's not over as quickly, but ...
And the soap opera? Since when does swimming have extensive bitchy sessions in front of the camera? Are you thinking of figure skating?
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
Ah-hahaha!
Now that Vastet has some serious objections, it's on.
Professional wrestling is like aiming for gay but missing for several reasons:
1) Gay men would have better haircuts. The dirty long hair thing ... I don't know why women might find that appealing, but they could be drunk.
2) The complete beefcake physique looks kind of silly. Like women with ridiculously large fake boobs look silly. If professional wrestling were gay, the wrestlers would look more like MMA guys. Y'know, actual athletes.
3) The bitch sessions in front of the camera would be way better. I don't think I have to qualify that.
4) The outfits would inevitably be way better. Epic, in fact. Ditto for grand entrances.
5) There would be bull dyke heroes, and they would be awesome.
6) More football-style ass slapping.
I could go on, but I see so many ways that professional wrestling could embrace the gayness it's clearly dancing around and not achieving that I'll leave some for others.
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
Will, check out this brutal KO !! It's utterly
fabulous !!!
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BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
... but women ARE objects, i will conceed that they do indeed have brains...
What Would Kharn Do?
Okay, now I'm the one who needs the drum kit.
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
Sorry about the typo.
The bike is a 1983 Maico 490. A German made motocross bike. By todays standards a technological dinosaur but still a beautiful machine and very powerful.
BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
I'm with you. I much prefer phrenology.
BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
...phht, for someone who despises Freud's methods your last post reads suspiciously as an attempt to psychoanalyze me. Do you want me to talk about my childhood now ?
BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
NO, I wont. It will be my life's mission, as hollow and vacuous as it is, to spread the truth about his bad acting(never mind that it is a matter of taste), SCREW WORLD HUNGER, SCREW DISEASE AND WAR! SEAN IS GOING DOWN!
This just in from CNN "I like shiny objects".
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NO women are NOT objects. Just because I get a boner looking at them doesn't mean I can break them like a vase when I am angry or when they don't give me what I desire.
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