Don't worry about it until you start heaping your mashed potato up into a facsimile of a volcanic plug....

 

 

 

 

Things like that had been going on worldwidely since January this year, and still continue for everyone to see on ocassion. Month before that Ben Creme made a public announcement in media, as a prediction and also offered an explanation for it. Me and my family, friends and distant friends all have seen these phenomena in the sky. This year is an exceptional season for observations. And of course, I have that link about the 'star' in my signature.

Actually, as I look at it, this is some new tactics. A common colourfully blinking and moving space crafts weren't enough to stir the public attention of cynical skeptics, so they arranged some bigger light show. Good work, space neighbours! I hope that landing on every single skeptic's garden will not be necessary.

I doubt this was a Russian missile test, because the experts only speculated and Russians didn't confirm it.

Im just gonna put this out here, so hear me out...

I would think, that launching missles over another country for any purpose, without notifying them... would cause an international incident...

(so why would they want to claim it was them? )

 

It's just Norway - they're such a nice bunch of folks they'd probably pretend not to notice.

 

 

 

 

 

Now I want one of those grilled cheese sandwiches and some of those cheetohs, just so I can have the most divine shit ever.  It'd be super cheesy too.  Like this joke.

well, the russians have claimed it, so that's that.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091210/sc_afp/russianorwaymilitarymissile

 

Don't worry, Luminon will claim it no matter what anyone says.

I don't think it was a missile, because it created a perfectly regular shape of spiral. No sound was also heard, no explosion.
The light could be seen as far away as London.

The phenomenon began when what appeared to be a blue light seemed to soar up from behind a mountain. It stopped mid-air, then began to circulate.
Within seconds a giant spiral had covered the entire sky. Then a green-blue beam of light shot out from its centre - lasting for ten to twelve minutes before disappearing completely.

Yeah, sure, russian missiles can nowadays shoot coloured light beams, maneuver on spot and cover the whole sky with perfectly regular image in quality of a hologram. How effective for combat! Russiansdidit, are you sure? I hope you didn't watch too much of Rocky and Bullwinkle.
You guys should rather look at some high quality photographs, not these taken by cell phone.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0ZCOom...
 

 

Why would a missile make a sound at that distance, or an explosion?

 

OK, it was Russian sparkle fairies.

"So basically, as I understand it:Russians announced a missile test for this week to Norwegians.At first, they denied thatt this effect was a failed missile test.Then, they admitted it.It doesn't give any sense."

Because that's not quite what happened. The Russians didn't announce anything, they just conducted a missle test. The results were spectacular. Then some department or another denied it was them, probably simply oblivious to the fact that it was them, as opposed to covering it up. When the left hand learned that the right hand did actually test a missle, they accepted responsibility.
At least that's my take on it with the information I've seen.
It should be noted that even before the Russians claimed responsibility, the Brits had already run models which suggested that it was a missle.

Luminon can't imagine bureaucratic confusion leading to conflicting statements being issued? 

WTF? What planet has he been living on?

There was nothing particularly 'perfect' about that pattern, in any geometric sense.

Any sound produced a high altitude is often dissipated or deflected by atmospheric density and temperature layers long before it can reach the ground.

If it is at a high altitude, it is going to visible from great distances, regardless of what produced the light.

Whatever the remaining puzzles about exactly what happened, those aspects are hardly deep mysteries.

 

matreya?

come on, man, do really think the next buddha will lower himself to going on international television?

Man, someone's gonna get fired for that screw up; I can't imagine being the guy responsible for that test and watching it spiral out of control like that.

 

exceeded my expectations by far. This is way more interesting that real life and even real religion. Tell us more Lum - is M going to lead us to bright new future and engender world peace or will he instigate RFID chips behind our ears replete with MIFARE encoding, bring an end to the cash economy, introduce tattoing at birth and get us started on the business of rounding up all the believers for processing down at in the ministry of truth?

Also, when will the craft arrive in Australia? I'm on the east coast but am on holiday for a few weeks so I could travel to Min-Min to see the lights.

 

 

 

 

Where is the East and West of the earth exactly?

 

Earth or elsewhere? You've said a few times that while most rational atheists would accept there is life elsewhere in the universe, we should be thinking about intelligent and communicative life right in our own backyard. How close are you talking?

I was fascinated with your take on Jesus and the various apostles. Do you think jesus was an alien or is he just a religious teacher and not the son of god? I always thought he was just made up or arguably an extrapolation of some other guy who got killed for doubling parking his donkey next to a colt on palm sunday.

In any case the reign of M sounds pretty good to me, what with world peace, the ability to work together while retaining cultural variations - it all sounds very nice. When can we expect M to seriously exert his presence on earth? The current governments are fairly crap after all. The sooner the better, if you ask me. Look at Copenhagen. It looks like being another farce. 

I tried to access that link you posted but am at home using wireless and am impatient so will look at it tomorrow at work. There are a lot of weird sightings of things in Australia, with a particular concentration of sightings of freaks in and around Hillsong, as I understand it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let's say, that there isn't only the dense, solid, liquid or gaseous world. There are higher, finer, less dense states of matter, which is the same matter as we have it, just it's atoms are differently configured and perhaps vibrate at different speed. This matter forms another "level" of the universe, another aspect of world co-existing with our own. We here have biologic life. But on the planets which are completely inhabitable by biologic life, there still remains this etheric level of the world, which may be completely habitable.
You surely have heard of the New Age tale, that every planet is a living organism. Well, there is some truth in it. Every planet (or some moons of gas giants) needs for it's development some forms of life, and seemingly inhabitable planets are teeming with etheric life.
Now, humans are not a biologic species, but a necessary stage in development. And so most of the planets have their own, etheric humanity, and these civilizations have their etheric vehicles. These machines are predominantly etheric, therefore invisible to us, but thanks to their technology they can be partially densified and made visible to us. This is why it's so simple for them to maneuver at speeds that would shatter any earthly plane, and this is why they can materialize and dematerialize anytime, or perform various activities in our atmosphere without being noticed. "Just disappearing" is one of characteristic traits of UFO.
Now, there are two points I want to make. Everyone's body has it's etheric counterpart and trained or gifted individuals like me are aware of it like "second skin" (second body, in fact)
The second point is, that vast majority of extraterrestrial traffic on Earth is necessarily local, from solar system, because neighbours solve problems among themselves. Vast majority of that local traffic is from neighbouring planets, Mars and Venus.
For more information, read the books of Benjamin Creme, Steven M. Greer, and George Adamski.
And btw, they don't like being called aliens, they've been always our neighbours and saved us from a great part of our own toxic and radioactive pollution.

Jesus was a man, highly advanced one, but otherwise normal. There were and are individuals in history and today just as advanced as him. As Universalists would say, I don't deny that he was a son of God, but I don't deny it about anyone He was born and died 24 years earlier than the history says, otherwise the records are mostly accurate. (about 60%) His life is so similar to lives of Horus, Mithra, Dionysos and so on, because this was his intention. There was not just one Christ, or one Buddha. There is a process, called "overshadowing". It's a bit like possesion by demon or whatever, but it's a voluntary sharing of body with a spiritual being, while the owner still has slight majority of control. And so, Siddharta Gautama wasn't Buddha, he was overshadowed by Buddha, because he was his disciple, giving a teaching to the world, to make it better. And Jesus was similarly overshadowed by Maitreya the Christ, as a part of his mission to initiate the age of Pisces. Every month of Platonic year (about 2160 years) needs at least one guy from among the Masters to come and remind the humanity what the life is all about, and set the symbolics for the next age. This is why in Pisces age Christians had the symbol of fish.
We are here to evolve our consciousness, and this is done in certain stages, called initiations. These are symbolically acted out in 5 major points in life of Jesus, Dionysos, and others. The Hierarchy of Masters was a bit like Frank Herbert's Bene Gesserit's Missionaria Protectiva, creating and planting religions among various cultures. They are the source of all major teachings, which by time become religions.
The reason why nowadays there is no prophet with a Master overshadowing him, but Masters are packing their Himalayan suitcases, move to our cities and arrange interviews in TV, is different, deeper and would take more time to write than I have now. Obviously, nothing less would work. There were times when 10 true people could save the world. Then there came time when 10 000 was not enough. Maitreya will need to call on 1 billion of people. The good thing is, that there is already 1.8 billion of those who are ready.

 

Yeah, I studied M's plans and principles closely, and found no catches like "classes or races of people that must be wiped out to make the love and peace rule the world" But it is also true, that some conflicts like in Palestine will probably have to be settled by M. personally, by his Christ and Imam Mahdi authority, nothing else will help.
As for his public arrival, he worked for that for about 60 years, and now it looks like he can finally do that, after many problems, diffculties and great work that was made. My most recent information is, that this spiral light on the sky announced the period in which his first anonymous interview on American national TV should be done. This period will last until the end of Christmas. More of repeated UFO signs and phenomena on the sky should be expected.

 Like this.
 

 

 

Individual, unbonded atoms do not vibrate at all, they simple move at some speed, which is taken as a measure of their temperature, unless acted on by external forces, and until the hit another atom.

Atoms within molecules of two or more atoms, or atoms more-or-less fixed in average position, as in a solid, do vibrate about their average position relative to the other atoms they are connected to. The energy in the vibration is a function of temperature.

Plasma is indeed the more dispersed form beyond what would be classified as a gas. It normally involves highly ionized atoms, ie missing some of their normal complement of electrons, and maybe some free electrons zipping around as well.

Beyond that you have just subatomic particles.

All fully covered by science. 

Plasma is being harnessed in the quest for fusion power via the 'Tokamak' style reactors.

The frequencies at which subatomic particles could ever be said to vibrate, or oscillate, in any sense, are so high that we could never sense them as "vibrations". Even much lower frequencies of physical vibration are  sensed as heat, or pressure, or texture, rather than as vibration. This is the basis by which people are attempting to give some flat purely 'virtual' devices like visual keyboards a 'feel'. Only very low frequencies of vibration are sensed as such. Just like vibrations transmitted through the air as variations of pressure that are faster than 20-30 per second are sensed as musical tones, not as vibrations. Way too low for atoms etc.