Religi-O-Matic
Offline A little while ago, I made the statement Jesus was an atheist. What does this mean? He spoke of a different God and a different Heaven, but most of all he spoke of a different love, than that of the Old Testament. So they killed him. And they stripped him of his humanity, erased his true history, until finally perverting his teachings into that hideous monstrosity which is Christianity as we know it. Or, as I prefer to call it, anti-christianity, since nobody in their right mind will see even the slightest similarity between today's obsessive cult of worship and the quiet life-as-it-is ethics of the master himself.
When it comes to religion I have absolutely nothing against personal faith. Whatever gets you through the night. Nor do I have any problems with systems of belief and the free discussion thereof - even though I myself name (what to me seems like) unnecessary belief 'superstition'. There are many big questions in life and few answers. I understand all this. What I do have a problem with, however, is tyranny; in whatever shape or form, whatever flag it comes sailing under. I have a problem with the idea that there exists some kind of unquestionable, cosmic authority; and, in particular, the idea that the will of such an authority is (or has been) mysteriously 'revealed' to an elite of specialists - churches, congregations, priests, prophets - who by virtue of this are bestowed with the skills and mandates to be leaders of men, deciding how people should be and behave, how they should live their lives.
There may or there may not be a God. We cannot know. But if there is a God, wouldn't he be best left alone to mind his business as he best sees fit? If you think about it, isn't it horrendously blasphemous to assume that you even remotely can understand what it entails to create and maintain an infinite universe? Would an all-powerful creator write texts in Greek and Hebrew? Wouldn't he rather... write in the language of galaxies, comets and shooting stars? Who are all these people to sit in judgement of creation? Wouldn't God want all of his creatures to simply BE, that which they were created to be, each to their own nature? I don't get it. I really don't. But I can see the fear and the hatred in all those so-called religious types, with all their scriptures and commandments. How small they are! How pathetic! Fear-mongers of the world, hear my words: You better hope that the God you speak of doesn't exist, for otherwise you will get yourself into some serious trouble for all the evil that you are doing.
(This text was written by me in October 09, and originally published on another website.)
"The idea of God is the sole wrong for which I cannot forgive mankind." (Alphonse Donatien De Sade)
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I think I agree with the sentiment that you're expressing (in terms of an appeal to Christians on their own ground), however, I've always found it pointless to hypothesize on what an impossible, and necessarily nonextant, creature would like or want. It never seemed pertinent to me to pretend as though Christianity was the bastardization of an ancient cult led by a zombie-god-man who actually existed, and originally had been a benevolent cult of 'quiet life-as-it-is ethics'. It's a religion exactly as the religions before it and since it are, the motives of which were quite clearly laid bare by Greek philosophers a long, long time ago.
BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
It is based in an acknowledgement that at the end of the day, we are all but little frightened human monkeys in a big bad world we don't really understand too well. I am not adverse to the idea of constructing ideas and fables around these difficult matters. This is not about reason and logic; it is a very private and emotional matter. In fact I think that is why mythology came into existence in the first place. But I react very negatively and VERY adversely each time anyone tries to lay a hand upon my shoulder and say "thou shalt". (Freely paraphrasing Proudhon on that one.)
"The idea of God is the sole wrong for which I cannot forgive mankind." (Alphonse Donatien De Sade)
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I don't really mind what sort of silly shit people believe to get themselves by. My issue is the gun to the head, love me or your dead doctrine. I loathe just as much the argument that deaf, dumb and blind acceptance of dogma is more righteous than careful consideration, the application of compassion and doing the right thing. I'd prefer it if theists of all persuasions would admit they are unable to prove their points or provide any evidence for the magic things they embrace but it's probably a bit much to ask.
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck