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Oh, that's an easy one. He, like me, is a Redskins fan. That shit will break your faith quicktime.

 

 

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Abu Lahab wrote:Oh, that's

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Oh, that's an easy one. He, like me, is a Redskins fan. That shit will break your faith quicktime.

If he was a Lions fan, that would make sense.


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Trust me on this, the Lions fans have it easy by comparison. For a start most of them live in Detroit and have the Wings to fall back on.

 

Ok, had....

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Fortunate_Son wrote:Let's

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Let's have a conversation.

 

Why are you an atheist?

Is this the part where I tell you that I had a troubled youth and you tell me that I am just angry at god?

Skip it bud, plenty of humans in every country of every religion have good days and bad days and some are luckier than others.

If you want to have a "conversation" like Tom Cruise said "SHOW ME THE MONEY"

Show me your god sperm, show me your god DNA, show me his GPS location. It shouldn't be hard since he is "all powerful".

But predictably you will respond "it doesn't work that way".

Of course it doesn't because justifying something is easier than testing it. If all you have to do is justify something moving the goal posts is easy. If you actually have to test something that would require you admitting when you are wrong.

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Abu Lahab wrote:Oh, that's

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Oh, that's an easy one. He, like me, is a Redskins fan. That shit will break your faith quicktime.

 

 

YOU BASSARD! You exposed me. My entire argument for rejecting god is that the Redskins suck! It couldn't be that we have no evidence that brains with no brains with magical powers exist. WHY WHY WHY DO THE REDSKINS SUCK? IT MUST ALL BE PART OF GOD'S PLAN.

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Brian37 wrote:Is this the

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Is this the part where I tell you that I had a troubled youth and you tell me that I am just angry at god?

Skip it bud, plenty of humans in every country of every religion have good days and bad days and some are luckier than others.

If you want to have a "conversation" like Tom Cruise said "SHOW ME THE MONEY"

Show me your god sperm, show me your god DNA, show me his GPS location. It shouldn't be hard since he is "all powerful".

But predictably you will respond "it doesn't work that way".

Of course it doesn't because justifying something is easier than testing it. If all you have to do is justify something moving the goal posts is easy. If you actually have to test something that would require you admitting when you are wrong.

And what scientific testing did you do which justifies that scientific testing is the only way towards truth? 

Come on.  You know that God is an immaterial being, why would he be testable by science?

You do not need scientific testing.  If I look at Mt. Rushmore, I can know that someone had to carve those faces.  It will take more faith to believe that they were the product of rain falling on the rocks over the course of millions of years.


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Abu Lahab wrote:Trust me on

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Trust me on this, the Lions fans have it easy by comparison. For a start most of them live in Detroit and have the Wings to fall back on.

Ok, had....

The Washington Capitals are pretty good.


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Brian37 wrote: WHY WHY WHY

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 WHY WHY WHY DO THE REDSKINS SUCK? IT MUST ALL BE PART OF GOD'S PLAN.

 

Oh, that's easy too! Because god hates atheists so he MADE us Redskins fans. It's like a Burgundy and gold purgatory.

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Fortunate_Son wrote:It will

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It will take more faith to believe that they were the product of rain falling on the rocks over the course of millions of years.

 

Or just blind stupidity?

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Fortunate_Son wrote:Abu

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Abu Lahab wrote:

Trust me on this, the Lions fans have it easy by comparison. For a start most of them live in Detroit and have the Wings to fall back on.

Ok, had....

The Washington Capitals are pretty good.

Yea, in a Chicago Cubs lovable loser, never make it to the big dance sense.

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Fortunate_Son wrote:Brian37

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Is this the part where I tell you that I had a troubled youth and you tell me that I am just angry at god?

Skip it bud, plenty of humans in every country of every religion have good days and bad days and some are luckier than others.

If you want to have a "conversation" like Tom Cruise said "SHOW ME THE MONEY"

Show me your god sperm, show me your god DNA, show me his GPS location. It shouldn't be hard since he is "all powerful".

But predictably you will respond "it doesn't work that way".

Of course it doesn't because justifying something is easier than testing it. If all you have to do is justify something moving the goal posts is easy. If you actually have to test something that would require you admitting when you are wrong.

And what scientific testing did you do which justifies that scientific testing is the only way towards truth? 

Come on.  You know that God is an immaterial being, why would he be testable by science?

You do not need scientific testing.  If I look at Mt. Rushmore, I can know that someone had to carve those faces.  It will take more faith to believe that they were the product of rain falling on the rocks over the course of millions of years.

The old blind watchmaker argument. Never seen that one before.

Ok, If Mt Rushmore was designed your argument is that everything has a designer.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE HELD TO THAT? YES OR NO?

EVERYTHING HAS A DESIGNER......YES OR NO?

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You are right, god is an

You are right, god is an immaterial being like a snarfwidget or pink unicorn. Imagination is not a physical location in the brain, but an emergent perception, all be it false that real stimuli can lead to false perceptions.

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Fortunate_Son wrote:Brian37

Fortunate_Son wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

Is this the part where I tell you that I had a troubled youth and you tell me that I am just angry at god?

Skip it bud, plenty of humans in every country of every religion have good days and bad days and some are luckier than others.

If you want to have a "conversation" like Tom Cruise said "SHOW ME THE MONEY"

Show me your god sperm, show me your god DNA, show me his GPS location. It shouldn't be hard since he is "all powerful".

But predictably you will respond "it doesn't work that way".

Of course it doesn't because justifying something is easier than testing it. If all you have to do is justify something moving the goal posts is easy. If you actually have to test something that would require you admitting when you are wrong.

And what scientific testing did you do which justifies that scientific testing is the only way towards truth? 

Come on.  You know that God is an immaterial being, why would he be testable by science?

You do not need scientific testing.  If I look at Mt. Rushmore, I can know that someone had to carve those faces.  It will take more faith to believe that they were the product of rain falling on the rocks over the course of millions of years.

I don't need scientific testing to know that my car was not hatched by rabbits or popped out of a volcano fully assembled. If you want to believe that biology and Mt Rushmore are born out of the same thing, that makes you a fool.

I don't need to test cars or my computer because they have been established and proven over and over. Any testing to a car or a computer is for the purpose of improving technology. But no one who kept on claiming the earth was flat had any more of a test than that of the might of the majority.

The Universe, and biology are completely separate and non-cognitive in their history. Mt Rushmore was human made. They are not comparable by any stretch.

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Brian37 wrote:The old blind

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The old blind watchmaker argument. Never seen that one before.

Ok, If Mt Rushmore was designed your argument is that everything has a designer.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE HELD TO THAT? YES OR NO?

EVERYTHING HAS A DESIGNER......YES OR NO?

Yes, everything has a designer.

If you want to know who designed God, it was God's father.


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Fortunate_Son wrote:Brian37

Fortunate_Son wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

The old blind watchmaker argument. Never seen that one before.

Ok, If Mt Rushmore was designed your argument is that everything has a designer.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE HELD TO THAT? YES OR NO?

EVERYTHING HAS A DESIGNER......YES OR NO?

Yes, everything has a designer.

If you want to know who designed God, it was God's father.

The unnamed human who thought up God?

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Fortunate_Son wrote:Brian37

Fortunate_Son wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

The old blind watchmaker argument. Never seen that one before.

Ok, If Mt Rushmore was designed your argument is that everything has a designer.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE HELD TO THAT? YES OR NO?

EVERYTHING HAS A DESIGNER......YES OR NO?

Yes, everything has a designer.

If you want to know who designed God, it was God's father.

As in the Christian God's father? if so, wouldn't that go against the teachings of no more than one God in existence?


 

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Fortunate_Son wrote:Brian37

Fortunate_Son wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

The old blind watchmaker argument. Never seen that one before.

Ok, If Mt Rushmore was designed your argument is that everything has a designer.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE HELD TO THAT? YES OR NO?

EVERYTHING HAS A DESIGNER......YES OR NO?

Yes, everything has a designer.

If you want to know who designed God, it was God's father.

Stupid argument. If everything has a designer and god has a designer and god is infinitely superior than nature, then that god would be infinitely more superior than the god he designed. and if everything has a designer then that god's god's god' is infinitely more superior than that god, and then that god too has a designer......ect ect ect ect. Infinite regress.

Here is what you fail to consider, that the processes of the universe are non-cognitive, and a result of a "what".  and not a needlessly complicated "who".

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If you promise to love me I

If you promise to love me I will give you $1,000,000, but you don't get it until you die. I promise.

P.S. I know everything, therefore I am totally legit.

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It's pretty obvious Fortunate

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Yes, everything has a designer.

If you want to know who designed God, it was God's father.

 

Is a clever guy but then he comes out with this. Fortunate, why not admit you believe because you want to believe instead of insisting your belief is based on something that's provable?

 

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