Questions for all the intelligent atheists (aka all the atheists) here
Hello, since I'm interested in learning new things as well as other people's views I was wanting to ask well informed atheists a few general questions. It's mostly a list of favorite and or most convinceing type questions. I'm doing this to better inform myself and to better solidify myself as a agnostic. Anyway here are the questions...
What are your favorite and or most convinceing arguements and evidences for....
atheism
naturalism
evolution
favorite and or most convinceing arguements and evidences against...
theism
christian theism
and top responses to arguements such as
the cosmological
ontological
moral
design
fine tunning
transcendental
resurrection of christ
Also what are your favorite books and resources?
Thank you for your time and for your replys, I hope to check back tomorrow. Thanks again.
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Too many questions to give detailed answers. Maybe try one or two in a single post next time. Here are brief responses...
atheism
No good reasons to believe. No evidence of any gods.
naturalism
Existence exists. (Duh.) 'Things' seem to exist within existence. (Universe.) These things appear to have their own natures, rather than being completely random. (Nature.) No good reasons to believe that anything exists 'outside' of Nature. No evidence of the supernatural.
evolution
Human chromosome #2.
Endogenous retro-viruses (ERVs).
Long-term E. Coli experiment showing evolution of completely new ability to eat citrate.
Obvious similarity of humans and other apes.
All life made of cells.
Zero evidence for any other origin story.
theism
No good reasons to believe. No evidence of any gods.
christian theism
No good reasons to believe. No evidence of Christian god.
No difference between Yahweh and Santa, except Santa is nicer.
Obvious mythological nature of stories in Bible.
Catholic church.
Dark Ages.
Crusades.
Witches.
Inquisitions.
Galileo.
No good evidence for historical Jesus.
the cosmological
Argument from Ignorance
Non Sequitur
Self-refuting: What caused god?
Special pleading
Occam's Razor
Big Bang
Quantum Mechanics
Unnecessary vastness and age of universe (Church of Last Thursday makes as much sense)
ontological
Argument from Ignorance
Non Sequitur
Self-refuting: It's easy to be the greatest when you exist. Now, for a god to be the greatest when he *doesn't* exist? *That's* much more impressive; certainly greater than a god who takes the easy path of being the greatest while existing. Therefore, god doesn't exist.
Absurd: I can't conceive of a greater BJ than one that's happening to me right now. Therefore I must be getting the *greatest ever* BJ right now.
moral
Argument from Ignorance
Non Sequitur
Self-refuting: What is the explanation for god's morals?
Special pleading
Evolution
Game Theory
design
Argument from Ignorance
Non Sequitur
Self-refuting: What designed god?
Special pleading
Evolution
The list goes on and on
fine tunning
Argument from Ignorance
Non Sequitur
Self-refuting: What tuned god's characteristics?
Special pleading
transcendental
Argument from Ignorance
Non Sequitur
Circular
Self-refuting: Presupposes logic. Then goes on to abuse it like a Catholic priest. Invalidates the logic it supposedly defends; if it can be used to prove the Bible, it can be used to prove anything. Therefore God is illogical, and so is the logic of TAG.
The history of the human development of logic is well-known. TAG is constructed with human logic, not God's logic. (And poorly constructed, at that.)
Transcendental Argument for the Non-existence of God
resurrection of christ
Argument from Ignorance
Non Sequitur
Obvious myth
Biology/medicine
No contemporary evidence
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Please keep the responses comming. Thanks again.
Hi, Epicdean,
I agree you've given quite a lot to cover in one post, so I'm going to be selective in order to go into a bit of depth - I'll try and pick the things that I have found most convincing in my transition from Catholic to atheist.
Theism and Atheism
The argument that I've found most convincing both for atheism and against theism is simply the fact that there is no unequivocal evidence for the existence of any gods. Theists may argue - and do argue - that you have to be willing to believe in order to see the evidence, but that is the same as saying you have to be truly intelligent to see the emperor's clothes! For almost every aspect of the world that theists invoke the hand of their god, there is a simpler, more elegant, naturalistic explanation. This being the case, the resort to god-of-the-gaps reasoning has become increasingly invalid. Why should we not suppose that things like the origins of the universe, and the nature of consciousness - two things theists love to claim as the work of their god - will one day yield to rigorous empirical investigation?
For the last few hundred years, scientific understanding of our world and what lies beyond it have pushed the idea of a god further and further onto the fringes of knowledge. At the same time humans have found that there are explanations for natural phenomena that don't require god's intervention, we have also failed to find any actual evidence - observable, testable evidence - for the presence of a divine being. If, indeed, there is a god of sorts hiding away in some undiscovered corner of the universe, is this really the kind of being to which we would consider paying homage?
What made me realise that I am indeed an atheist and not an agnostic is the fact that the existence or nonexistence of any gods has become utterly irrelevant to the way I lead my life - apart from the fact that I enjoy arguing the case for atheism! My morality is my own, my life is my own, my loyalties are to my friends and family (including our dogs and cats) and the purpose of my life is whatever I decide it to be - hopefully something that results in happiness for me and mine.
The Cosmological Argument and Fine Tuning
This one, I believe, rests on the notion that the universe had to have a cause, if it had a beginning, and that cause must necessarily have been a transcendent, timeless, intelligent being, aka: the Judeo-Christian god (or so the assumption usually goes).
I have seen several people attempt intricate philosophical gymnastics in the endeavour to explain why this argument is sound, but none of these attempts has ever been convincing. Even if the universe had to have a cause, as such, there is no reason the cause had to have been a disembodied mind. I believe the current concept favoured by astrophysicists is the idea of the quantum vacuum, but I don't understand that one well enough to explain it. What I do know is that a pre-existing chaotic collection of particles that gave rise to matter as we know it constitutes a much simpler explanation than the pre-existence of a creative intelligence. Theists can't legitimately claim, in the same argument no less, that everything that exists had to have a cause, except their god.
As for the argument from fine tuning, that one is just completely arse-backwards. It starts with the assumption that humans constitute an end in ourselves, that the universe was somehow made to accommodate us, rather than the fact that blind processes gave rise to life, which then evolved into various forms to fit the environment - it was never a case of the environment being somehow built or shaped to suit us. I love how theists who resort to this argument can then turn around and claim that atheists are arrogant...
The Resurrection of Christ
I am often amazed at the lack of historiographical awareness of the people who make this argument. The fact of the matter is that there are actually no surviving eye-witness accounts of the life, death or resurrection of Jesus. There is no clear-cut, convincing evidence that Jesus even existed as an actual historical person, rather than a legendary figure of the nature of King Arthur. There are also so many similarities between the Jesus myth and the prevailing mythologies within the Roman Empire in the first couple of centuries CE that it's hard to claim any originality for the stories attached to Jesus. Furthermore, the sources often claimed as corroborating evidence for the existence of Jesus as an actual person in fact contain nothing other than vague mentions of a person who may or may not have been the Jesus of the Gospels.
The Argument from Morality
This is definitely one of my favourites. Theists love to claim that atheists have no possible anchor for morality, and that in the absence of a god, anything and everything is permissible.
One of the best counterarguments to this is the fact that the majority of theists don't actually cite their god or their holy book as the source of their morality. If we take the example of Christians, how many of them seriously follow all the moral precepts laid out in the Bible? They don't - they pick and choose which moral teachings they think are sound, based on their own knowledge and experience. That's just what the rest of us do - only without reference to the Bible.
Furthermore, there is ample evidence to suggest that morality is essentially a function of our nature as social animals. Other social animals, such as wolves and great apes, clearly have social mores - mutually understood modes of behaviour that contribute to the survival and harmonious functioning of the group. We humans might like to think that there is something special about our notion of morality, but it still has its basis in a shared understanding of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable behaviour towards our own kind.
Some Sources
There are several books I have found enlightening in my journey from belief to unbelief. I believe it was indeed The God Delusion that helped me realise I was an atheist, not merely agnostic. However, probably the best atheist book I have so far found is Atheism Explained: from folly to philosophy, by David Ramsay Steele. I believe it's available on Amazon. Unlike the works of Dawkins and Hitchens, it's not a polemic, but a polite, well-reasoned demolition of the arguments for the existence of the Judeo-Christian god.
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Very good response, thanks again.
Just wanted to pick some of my favorites:
Christian God: Specifically the trinity. If, as the doctrine states, they are NOT three separate entities, then Xtians believe that Jesus constantly prayed to one of his 'personalities.' Also, one of his 'personalities' let him die. All this does it make it seem like Christianity should be polytheistic (which it should in order to make sense) but that gets xtian's panties in a bunch.
Ontological argument for God: I never trust a purely logical argument. People seem to forget that logic, the study of reason, a mental development from evolution, should not be considered infallible. If it were then there wouldn't be so much controversy within the field itself. Alternatively, external and physical truths should be used to validate the internal truths discovered by logic. The idea that logic alone can lead one to conclude that existence has to have some quality is so arrogant I consider it a delusion of grandeur. People aren't important, and neither are the things we can think up.
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I just thought of a couple other arguments against TAG.
Goedel's argument for the imperfection of God: According to Goedel's Incompleteness Theorem, logic is either incomplete or inconsistent. If logic is part of God's nature, and we are charitable in assuming that God is not inconsistent, then God is incomplete, and hence imperfect.
Turing's argument for the lack of omniscience of God: According to Turing's proof of the undecidability of the Halting Problem, it is impossible to follow a logical algorithm to know whether any given program will halt or not. If logic is part of God's nature, then there are true facts that even God cannot know, hence he cannot be omniscient.
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I once heard the argument that if Christianity is true then Christians should kill themselves. The argument goes like this:
P1:Since Christians love maximally God (Mark 12:28-30), their most intense desire is to be as close to God as possible.
P2:In the present existence, Christians are not as close to God as possible.
P3:But if they die and go to heaven, then they will be as close to God as possible.
P4:Every person wants to satisfy his/hers most intense desire as soon as possible.
C1:Therefore, Christians should desire to die as soon as possible.
P5:Christians will die as soon as possible if they commit suicide as soon as possible.
P6:There is nothing inconsistent between being a Christian and committing suicide.
C2:Thus, Christians should commit suicide as soon as possible.
Most Christians will object to P6 but there's really no explicit interdiction of suicide in Christianity and I think the counter-arguments are rather weak.
If that doesn't work then hit them with this:
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My favorite argument is not for atheism is as much it is for good use of logic.
A position on ANY ISSUE is, to me, worth holding when it has been tested and independantly verified.
I am an atheist at this current time because all claims of deities past and present, polytheist or monotheist, depend on the beleiver defending the claim of a thinking brain with no body or brain. I find the concept absurd and see no good evidence to hold such a position.
But if we are talking about specific religions, Christianity per sey.
1. Dismbodied magical super brian with no brain floating in the cosmos, everywhere and nowhere at the same time..........
2.A baby being born WITHOUT two sets of DNA contributing to the zygote........
3. Human flesh magically surviving rigor mortis after 3 days
But even before you get to the magical birth and death of Jesus, they still, like all other fans of all other deities still havent established independently verified data proving the existence of their magical invisable disembodied brain.
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Reliability of the results.
Zero evidence for any of them.
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This stuff is excellent. Thanks again.
Say, do I have any more takers? This has been some GREAT stuff thus far. Thanks again.
OK. what is your arguments for or against these things? One more for evolution:
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It occurs to me that the strongest argument many Christians often make is that if you are open to belief in their god, you'll see the evidence all around you. That is their strongest argument. Think about that for a second.
This is what Christopher Hitchens refers to as wish-thinking. Those who want to see the work of a god in the natural world or in coincidental occurrences will see it, or will claim it - they won't see evidence of evolution, geological movement, weather patterns, neurological processes - they'll see evidence of god.
These same people will deny the evidence of history or of science, if it tells against their belief. They'll accuse nonbelievers of the same kind of wish-thinking in which they themselves engage. But the use of empirical investigation, in both the natural and the social sciences, works to counteract any kind of wish-thinking. Conclusions are based on evidence, or withheld in the face of a lack of evidence.
The empirical approach to gaining knowledge and understanding is qualitatively very different to the religious approach. Most religions claim a monopoly on "the truth", but observation, experiment and reason - the tools of empirical investigation - are much better at approaching any truths that matter.
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Give and take, epicdean. What's your take on these questions?
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This pretty much
Let's see, I would probably give the same or similiar answers that you gave. That would be my take. If run into something even better I'll let you know.
..is the one where theists claim - usually after asserting that belief is necessary to morality - that atheism naturally and logically leads to evil and atrocity. Their evidence for this? Hitler and Stalin.
The most obvious retort is that totalitarian regimes were just as irrational as religion, perhaps moreso. The leader of the state is set up as an object of worship, and it is the omnipresent eyes of the law, rather than a god, that pry into everyone's private life.
I have been reading God Is Not Great, by Christopher Hitchens, and in one chapter he makes a very good case for the similarity between religion and totalitarianism - indeed the fact that they probably spring from the same innate, irrational human impulses. Not to mention the fact that the Catholic church, in particular, went hand-in-glove with fascist regimes (it is with no sense of hyperbole that I refer to the current Pope as a fascist), and acquiesced - in the case of Pius XII, with great enthusiasm - to the Nazis. It's an eye-opening argument.
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This argument defeats itself. No good reasons to believe that anything exists "outside" of nature? Well, there are ALSO no good reasons to believe that nature is all there is. So naturalism does not simply win by default.
If God exist, God could of used evolution as a foundation for the origin of life.
Well, i disagree. There are many different reasons to believe in a Deity. Two of my favorites are the kalam argument, and the argument from morality.
The difference between Yahweh and Santa Claus is that no one is willing to die for the existence of Santa Claus. But many people were/are willing to give there life for Yahweh. People dont believe in Santa Claus not because there isn't any evidence for him, but because there is overwhelming evidence AGAINST his existence. There is no man flying around on a sleigh guided by reindeers, one in which has a red glowing nose. That is why we dont believe in Santa. Children stop believing in Santa once they are of age. But with Christianity, for most people, there love for Yahwah increases with age. So there is a big difference between Santa and Jesus/Yahwah.
This is my favorite. I believe the cosmological argument is the most fasinating argument in favor of theism. I disagree that it is committing the fallacy of argument from ignorance because those that accept this argument is not stating that the argument is true until it can be falsified. What we are saying, is that based on the current evidence that we have available, both philosophical and scientific, that this argument is very sound. This argument is also not a Non Sequitur, because based on the argument....
1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause
2. The universe began to exist
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause
If you look at the argument, this is a deductive argument, because both of the premises have been PROVEN to be true, so the conclusion in #3 logically follows.
The question that you asked "What caused God" means that you fail to understand the argument. In #1, it is "Everything that begins to exist has a cause". God never began to exist, so God doesn't have a cause. This is no "special pleading" for God, because atheist has always said that the universe was eternal and never had a beginning. Plus, we have EVIDENCE that the universe had a beginning, and based on everyday observation, things dont just pop into being uncaused out of nothing. Quantum Mechanics/Quantum Physics does not refute premise #1, because there are many different interpretations of Quantum Physics, i can give you at LEAST 10 interpretations, and noone knows which of these interpretations are correct. And not all physicists even agree with the Copehangen interpreation of Quantum Physics, one which i assume you are referring too. I dont understand what you mean by Occkams Razor in this context, because science isn't able to tell us what spawned the singularity, so are not able to decipher what is a reasonable explanation from a scientific standpoint. So Occkhams Razor is not a factor at all. The great physicist Stephen Hawkings already stated the majority of every cosmologist agree that the Big Bang model is the best explanation of the origin of the universe. As for the uneccesarry vastness and age of the universe, i will simply say that we are in no position to judge God on how much of the universe he created or how long it took him to make it. God is a being with unlimited time and unlimited resources. We are just created finite beings with a very small perspective.
I will just stop right there.
I've enjoyed reading them both. Thanks for taking the time.
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck
You imply that even with our very small perspective, a perspective that does not allow us to know about god, we can nevertheless be sure it's possible have a relationship with a universe creating prime mover. But this surety is based on no proof at all.
Yes, the universe had a cause, the big bang. What was going on before the big bang? We don't know. You are positing a deity when the only proof you have is that we don't know. From this deity you can't prove beyond waving your hand in the general direction of absolutely no evidence, you then manufacture a personal saviour who sent his son to die on the cross to save us from our feelings of guilt and our fear of death. I don't care what you believe personally, but talking about the cosmological argument like it's a sure thing is indefensible.
Your argument from morality is no doubt painted with the same brush. There's right and wrong - it must have come from somewhere. It came from an invisible god who exists outside the universe in some sort of colossal fantasyland that's apparently so boring he devotes all his time to ant farming in a galaxy far, far away.
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Max Planck
How do you know this?
Except that the study of nature has made discoveries that are useful to EVERYONE, and, as such, are hard to argue against. Spirituality may work for some, but for as long as it has been around, it hasn't had the impact that modern science and technology have had on society.
Your argument only says that the universe had something cause its existence. You provide no relevant information whatsoever that provides reason why the causal chain of existence starts with the Big Bang. That the universe began with the BB is true, however the same argument does not apply to existence itself. It is therefore just as reasonable to say existence did not start at the BB. So in order to apply your argument to existence, you need to establish why existence (aka reality) has a beginning.
Also, it would be simpler to conclude that energy did not have a beginning, so you need to provide evidence that it has a beginning, instead of making god the cause. (and remember, the energy of our universe could have come about due to a physical process in pre-BB existence. Since there is NO information regarding pre-BB conditions, either conclusion could be right.)
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Well, what I am saying is we can't pretend to know every single detail or get inside the mind of God and determine why he did this or why he did that. I said that because the person whom I was responding to was making an argument that goes something like this "A Deity wouldn't have created a universe with so much uneccesarry space". And my point was, we don't know why God would have created the universe with so much empty space. He may have his reasons. That was my point
Well, according to Big Bang cosmology, space, matter, time, and energy came into being with the initial Big Bang singularity (all nature came into being). So before the big bang, there was no space, time, matter, or energy. So it logically follows that if the Big Bang was the cause of nature, then whatever caused the Big Bang had to transcend (or exist beyond) space, matter, time, and energy. The problem is, instead of postulating the supernatural, most close minded people don't want to even ENTERTAIN the thought of the supernatural. I find this very absurd.
Well, my argument from morality is not based on just morality. It is based on OBJECTIVE morality. The argument is not that you can't leave a morally good life without God. The argument is without God, morality can't be objective. Everything becomes subjective. You think stealing is wrong. But the next man may think stealing is right. You may have a million reasons why you think stealing is wrong. But the next man may have a million different reasons why stealing is right. So who are you to tell a man that stealing is wrong, if he thinks it is right? For objective morality, we need a foundation that is beyond our own morality. And that is God
I challenge anyone on here to give me an example of something that can begin to exist without having a preexisting cause. I will be waiting. This first premise is based on everyday observation and if anyone disagree with this first premise, then provide the evidence.
Except that the study of nature has made discoveries that are useful to EVERYONE, and, as such, are hard to argue against. Spirituality may work for some, but for as long as it has been around, it hasn't had the impact that modern science and technology have had on society.
Well, science can only study the natural. It cannot study the supernatural. You cant put the supernatural in a test tube. Science is in no position to study the supernatural. Science has no choice but to stop at the Big Bang. That is the furthest that science can go back. It can't go back any further than that because the cause of the Big Bang is not natural, nor can it be natural.
Actually, i can provide relevant information. You mention the "causal chain". There are only three different types of causations.
1. An uncaused cause (God)
2. A "caused by others" cause (Leonardo Da Vinci was the cause of the painting of the Mona Lisa"
3. A "self cause" (a person causes himself to be born)
Those are the only causes that we are familiar with. We can quickly cancel out #3, because it is absurd. Nothing can be the cause of itself. Out of nothing, nothing comes. #3 can be quickly disregarded because it is absurd. What about #2, we are very aware of this cause. When builders build a house, they are the cause of the house. You were the cause of your parents reproducing. No one will argue with the possibility of #2. Now here is where philosophy comes in. There CANNOT be an actual infinite amount of causes. This is because an actual infinity can not exist in reality. I will ask you to do some research on the concept of "infinity". It is a lot of ground to cover. But to wrap it up, we know that since there cannot be an infinite amount of "caused by other" causes, that there had to be at least one uncaused cause, which is #1.
Not so. According to Big Bang cosmology, energy itself did not exist prior to the Big Bang. The Big Bang was the cause of everything that is considered natural. That is, all space, matter, time, and energy. Before the BB, none of that stuff existed. There was literally NOTHING. And out of nothing, nothing comes.
Well, from a natural perspective, time itself had a beginning. So if time had a beginning, then it logically follows that existence has a beginning, since everything natural exists in time. Remember, the universe is everything that physically exist, and everything that physically exist came into being with the BB, that is all space, time, matter, and energy. The only question is, what gave it that beginning.
I think I found the root of your problems. You think that "supernatural" is a valid concept. It's not. I direct you to:
http://www.rationalresponders.com/039supernatural039_and_039immaterial039_are_broken_concepts
Lol.
Scientific naturalism wins by default. Philosophical naturalism does not. Google it or something.
Scientific naturalism does not presuppose that nature is all there is. By definition, natural things are the only things that can be reliably observed and tested, so these are the only things worth discussing. It doesn't arbitrarily exclude any category from existence because, by definition, as long as you can reliably observe something, then that thing is natural. However, it does exclude these things from the realm of logic and science, but simply based on the premise that they cannot be described by logic and science, by definition.
Psh.
Anyone can die for their belief system as long as they have a strong enough conviction. Muslims fly planes into building for their God. Buddhist monks set themselves on fire.
Of course, people aren't willing to die for Santa Claus, but I think this is because virtually no one actually believes Santa Claus exists except children. If people did believe that Santa Claus existed, I have no doubt that crazy things would be done in his name.
Well, don't stop there. Keep going with the syllogistic reasoning. How do you know the cause is an immaterial intelligence?
Okay, then, how do you know God never began to exist?
Jesus, why this straman? Always. What is so appealing about this strawman?
If you talk to virtually any atheist, the answer you'll get the most is that we don't know what caused the universe. Nobody actually believes that the universe spontaneously popped out of the theistic conception of nothingness.
You clearly do not understand quantum mechanics. Don't profess to understand something that you do not understand.
Occam's razor or Ockham's razor. Not "Occkams razor."
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For me, atheism isn't as much an intellectual as it is an emotional thing.
I look at the "believers" and I see a bunch of excited, primitive apes jumping up and down and making threats.
This is not my species. These are the living dead. They are dangerous.
I don't need to make any arguments. I keep clear of Christians the same way I keep clear of crocodiles.
They are dangerous and they can't be reasoned with. That's all.
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Heck, nothing can study the supernatural. You can't put it into any kind of tube, and nothing is in a position to study the supernatural.
Why not?
I pick number 2 then, unless you're assuming that it must be another intelligence, in which case, I invoke number 4.
4. Caused by a determined, unintelligent, impartial natural process.
Well, I'm guilty of this too, as we all are, but once you're talking about what happened "before the Big Bang," most of the intuitive concepts that we take for granted breaks down. What's to say that terms like causality, time, etc. can even be coherently applied? It's very possible that they are merely characteristics of our current universe and are meaningless in any other context.
I disagree, so I'm going to challenge that accuracy of that statement.
I don't think Big Bang cosmology claims that energy did not exit prior to the Big Bang. Do you have a source? Reference? Citation?
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Naked assertion. You fail to understand that it is possible for the BB to have been natural. Look up M-theory + Big Bang. You should find an interesting theory that is based on current string theory. I will not yet assert it as true (I'm not sure whether we'll even be able to find out if it is...) The point here is that you are using a lack of evidence to say that something is necessarily <enter conclusion>. This is why religion is based on faith, because it is based on subjective evidence and natural non-evidence.
I agree that 'supernatural,' as a concept, is broken and actually hurts your arguments. I fail to see why theists can't just say that everything that exists is natural, even the things you call supernatural now. I suppose I shouldn't give you the advice though...
First, I would argue that there is always an option that is 'something we don't know.' Humans are known to be wrong from time to time, and it is safer to always add the option of something unforeseeable. Second, a truly random process would constitute 'an uncaused cause,' as I have already said you need to establish the relevant information as to why god is that uncaused caused (to which I add that it may even be impossible to do... see below).
"This is because an actual infinity can not exist in reality."
Assertion. You can't comprehend that as possible having lived in a temporally miniscule amount of existence. I argue that there is no reason why this is impossible. It is a rather important concept in mathematics, and mathematics seem to be the purest way to understand the nature we are a part of.
As others have pointed out, you are wrong here. It is clear that your knowledge regarding the BB is insufficient. Like evolution lays no claim to the beginning of life, the BB does not address 'time 0.' It explains the events leading up to it (going backwards in time), but says nothing about it or what was there before it. I disregard any comment about pre-BB conditions, because it may end up being impossible to gather any information, scientifically, about those conditions. It is certainly impossible to do so now.
I will again have to disagree. The running concept in physics is now space-time, because the two are intrinsically linked. Also, I fail to see how it logically follows that if time had a beginning, so did existence. You are here assuming that something has to be contained within time to have the property of existence. I think this even goes against theistic views. If god exists, then, using your logic, it would follow that he is contained in time, and therefore not eternal. You are wrong in saying that the universe is all that physically exists. You fail to understand that we only claim that within the limits of our knowledge. In other words, the universe is all that physically exists, so far as we know. We make no claims regarding existence external to the universe, so your claim that the universe is all that exists is flawed.
All in all, it seems you are extrapolating scientific knowledge into metaphysical claims. You take what we know and assume that it applies to everything that could be. We don't do that. Science is NOT absolutist. Science starts from zero knowledge and builds toward a cohesive understanding. From what I've seen, theists tend to think in absolute terms, and do the same when they learn something scientific. Another thing I see happening a lot is using a lack of evidence as evidence. As I've already said, saying that there are x options, where "unknown" is not contained in the set is no longer scientific, and personally, no longer rational. Given how many times humans have been wrong about what we know, you would think we'd come to expect this unexpected term. My metaphysical position would thus be one where the unknown is as important as the known, in that an integral part of understanding is accepting that you simply may not know.
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