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Sometimes I just enjoy experiencing how insignificant we are in the universe. It gives me wonder.
Theism is why we can't have nice things.
Thanks for posting... that was incredible
Pretty bad-ass. I use a bunch of Hubble images as my desktop backgrounds. I really do like looking out at space. It is hard to put in words how enormous everything is.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."
British General Charles Napier while in India
Amazing!
Look at all that gravity!
Kidding.
I saw the MW with my naked eye once, on a little island far off the coast of Maine. It was breathtaking. We're lucky to see a star or two here in NYC, with all the air and light pollution.
Man, that is amazing. I live out in the country where I am lucky enough to have a great view of the stars, lots of clear weather and low light pollution. Looking at the stars and taking the time to actually think about them is one of the great emotional pleasures in my life.
Also makes me sad though, because I'll never see any of them first hand
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
Reminds of the last time I had a really good view of the stars. I was taking a holiday at a beach resort north of Brisbane, well away from any big source of pollution (smoke-stack industries, city traffic).
I woke up in the motel around mid-night, and thought it might be cool to go for a walk down to the beach, not far.
When I walked out on the beach, and looked up - WOW!
No city lights. Only one or two distant lights visible either way along the long curve of the sand.
Just the Milky Way so clearly visible above me, among the profusion of nearby stars. I have read that we have the best view of it here in the Southern Hemisphere.
Next best thing to going up a mountain to get above much of the atmosphere.
Like when I went down to a much closer beach-front in a suburb of Brisbane, at some time around 3am, to get a view of Halley's comet - that worked. It wasn't big or spectacular, but clearly identifiable.
Favorite oxymorons: Gospel Truth, Rational Supernaturalist, Business Ethics, Christian Morality
"Theology is now little more than a branch of human ignorance. Indeed, it is ignorance with wings." - Sam Harris
The path to Truth lies via careful study of reality, not the dreams of our fallible minds - me
From the sublime to the ridiculous: Science -> Philosophy -> Theology
You do. This is because the center of the Milky Way is in Sagittarius, a constellation with negative declination, so you guys in the Southern Hemisphere see more of the stellar disk. You also have the Small and Large Magellanic Clouds down there. It really is unfair from an astronomical point of view.
But thanks to creation science, we're back at the centre of it all, so now we can feel pretty important.
http://creation.com/our-galaxy-is-the-centre-of-the-universe-quantized-redshifts-show
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That was awesome!!!
I climbed mount Mount Tibrogargan when I was backpacking thru brisbane. We stayed over night up their, that was the crazyest clearest night I'd ever seen. Awesome experience, except for the hundreds of palm sized orb spiders everywhere.
Well, that is true as far as it goes. However, I wonder about the date here. While bobSpence1 did not say it certainly, he was at a beach resort and went for a late night walk. For the southern hemisphere, that suggests something one would do in December. No view of Sagittarius then.
Just for grins, I changed my location in my observatory planning software (stellarium) to Brisbane to see what might be up. On December 31, there is a good view of M31 and if you can see the milky way, then that should be a piece of cake. It is a faint fuzzy spot dead north and 20 degrees above the horizon at 5:00 pm.
Bring binoculars. While it is tiny to the unaided eye, it actually extends over about 6x the diameter of the full moon, although binoculars will not make the whole thing show up, you will be able to see a good deal more of it.
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seen one star you seen them all.... at least from this distance. Looking at them seems a pointless activity to me. Yes you are tiny, you don't need to look up to realise this. stars never did anything for me, not a particularly good view anyway.
Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
No animal shall wear clothes.
No animal shall sleep in a bed.
No animal shall drink alcohol.
No animal shall kill any other animal.
All animals are equal.
May small birds nest in your hair.
Theism is why we can't have nice things.
Not my fault everyone was saying stars are awesome and they give them goosebumps and the like! I had to disagree not my fault! When so many people agree on something I have to disagree even if i dont think so, its in my blood
But really they are just white dots. I could draw you some. so here ................................................................ pretty
P.S. my hair would make a perfect birds nest!
Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
No animal shall wear clothes.
No animal shall sleep in a bed.
No animal shall drink alcohol.
No animal shall kill any other animal.
All animals are equal.
The waterthrush come for you.
Theism is why we can't have nice things.
Compared to what? Time and space is relative. For that matter "infinite" and "infinitesimal" are largely relative concepts.
To me, a type of celestial phenomena rarely observed elsewhere in the universe is full of wonder. Eta Carinae, The Great Attractor, The Great Wall, and Quasars (particularly ones with polar jets facing our general direction) in general are full of wonder. A galaxy, an occasional blot of nebula, or a constellation are not; they are hardly unique.
/shrug
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Fuckin A
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Yah, I tend to agree with you on that one Kapkao. There is a open matter of the scale at which we are looking.
Sure, we are almost nothing compared to a huge galaxy. However, something similar could be said about the relation between a bacterium and a human. Unless we are discussing a bacterium which can infect us, then the whole relationship changes in a very significant way. Y. Pestis, for example, kills like half the people who become infected with it in about a week. Of course Y. Pestis is similarly inconvenienced by antibiotic molecules...
Looking at the scale of regular human activity, are we so insignificant? Well, we are screwing up the planet left and right. In the past 40 or so years, we have done quite a bit to unmake some of the problems that we had made in the past but we are still looking at some type of looming crisis if we don't continue the work.
Seriously, we could switch to hybrid technology and/or hydrogen where appropriate and possibly get our use of energy to about half of what it currently is. However, that will be half usage per-capita. If we double our population in the same time frame, can we actually claim that we have made the type of progress that we need?
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I agree.
IE, Love Canal, Exxon-Valdex, increased mercury levels in the pacific, petrochem puddles bubbling up in Brooklyn... and of course the nuclear and toxic wastelands in south central Russia.
If fusion power becomes available in the estimated 20 to 50 years (not decades) it is believed it will take for the currently planned prototype to run it's course... we might be able to claim that. We could, with sufficient power consumption, separate hydrogen from oxygen as well, thus making hydrogen fuel cells a little more viable than they are atm.
edit: I confuse decades with years.
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Heh, the point of this thread is the experience of directly observing a massive aggregation of stars. Much, much more impressive than looking at them individually.
Oh, and it was in winter, can't recall exactly when. I was there for the sight-seeing, summer is much too hot here for long walks along the beach.
It is called 'Rainbow Beach', there are impressive stretches of multi-colored sand cliffs, due to mineral content. The view up and down the coast from a headland between two very long stretches of beach ( Double Island Point) is also quite impressive in its own way, as are the walks through the rain-forest just inland.
How dare you belittle my experience of the 'God' of nature....
Favorite oxymorons: Gospel Truth, Rational Supernaturalist, Business Ethics, Christian Morality
"Theology is now little more than a branch of human ignorance. Indeed, it is ignorance with wings." - Sam Harris
The path to Truth lies via careful study of reality, not the dreams of our fallible minds - me
From the sublime to the ridiculous: Science -> Philosophy -> Theology
So you look at these:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0705/deathvalleysky_nps.jpg
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0710/MilkyWayRoad_landolfi.jpg
http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2003-28-a-web_print.jpg
and just think "yeah, it is a bunch of dots, pretty boring."
Really?
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."
British General Charles Napier while in India
The first two were boring (save for the traveling stones), the third showed a galaxy. There are many millions of galaxies currently visible.
NASA's Hubble Space Telescope Yields Clear View of Optical Jet in Galaxy M87
Eta Carinae- 80-150 times the mass of our sun; surprised scientists with it's (speculated) mass (complete with nebular lobes)
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
The land-based wonders sounded nice...
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)