Whether you believe or not...
Offline "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth, and the earth was without form, and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters." It's an oral history, passed down, word of mouth, from father to son. From Adam to Seth, from Seth to Enos, from Enos to Caanan, for 40 generations a growing, changing story, passed down, word of mouth, father to son. Till Moses finally gets it down on lambskin. But lambskins wear out, need to be copied. So you have a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of an oral history passed down through 40 generations. From Hebrew it's translated into Arabic. From Arabic into Greek. From Greek into Latin. From Latin into Russian, from Russian into German, from German into an Olde form of English that you could not read. Through 400 years of evolution of the English language to the book we have today. Which is: A translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of an oral history passed down through 40 generations. You can't put a grocery list through that many copies, translations and re-tellings and not get some big changes in the dinner menu when the kids make it back from Superfresh. And yet people are killing each other over this written word. Here's a tip. If you're killing someone in the name of God... you might be missing the message.
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I think you have made it clear what most here agree with anyways, the story comes from ancient folk lore; stories told around the clans campfire. btw you can relate the story with smaller letters, it's easier on the eyes.
"in the beginning there was light..." , very poetic but since the sun doesn't show up untill the forth day, did you ever wonder where that light came from?
The story of Adam and Eve comes from the swamp area North-West of modern Basra. Well known for its rich red earth, but you knew that anyways since Adam means 'son of the red earth'.
The story of Cain and Abel, rival brothers was brought to the mid-east by the Hittites an indo-european people (c.1800 BCE). The indo-europeans brought their folk tales of rival brothers to where ever they migrated. Caster & Pollax, Romulus & Remus, Dharam & Veer to name a few.
Next comes the story of Seth brought to the mid-east by way of Persia by the indo-european tribes of Medes. The Semetic speaking Hebrew used the word Seth to mean "set, or appointed" it's actually an Indo-European word for "point out/ that which follows" notice the similar meanings. Seth plays a very prominent roll in the Zorastrian religion has does Mithras the main source for te Jesus myth.
Folk tales on top of folk tales and when they started writing them down all the stories got mixed in together, it's called the OT.
"Very funny Scotty; now beam down our clothes."
VEGETARIAN: Ancient Hindu word for "lousy hunter"
If man was formed from dirt, why is there still dirt?
Exactly! Right on! Just wish that Religious zealots would open their eyes and minds to realize that just as with Big Foot... The Bible is just a myth.
You may not get that the people who do the killing over religion, are for the most part people who know better.
This is why the bigwigs want to keep religion, it's an easy out to start wars and control people. "allah" or "god" demand's it.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
Man is a rational, control seeking, tool making animal. To that end he created God.
With an ancient god who currently has no body, it's easy for men to appoint themselves as his spokespeople.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
Unfortunately, you are correct!!!!! "His" spokesman on earth. Damn it... So, as long as it is in his name.. All is AOK with beheading, bombing, shooting, hanging, torture, killing abortion doctors, or anything else these nuts can come up with!??!
Please expand?? Also dp?
dp = (accidental) double post. I just deleted it.
Favorite oxymorons: Gospel Truth, Rational Supernaturalist, Business Ethics, Christian Morality
"Theology is now little more than a branch of human ignorance. Indeed, it is ignorance with wings." - Sam Harris
The path to Truth lies via careful study of reality, not the dreams of our fallible minds - me
From the sublime to the ridiculous: Science -> Philosophy -> Theology
What I'm saying is they use it as an excuse. "faith is believeing something you know aint true" -twain
The wars we have been in recently, if everyone was an atheist, and understood that when you are dead you are dead, there would be less killing. As it stands, it's ok to send people to die as long as you can keep them thinking heaven is real. So, does it not make sense that leaders would want the people to believe in this stuff? It's a control tool, the leader, or guy who sends them off to die does not have to believe in it, just make the rest of them do so.
"God did it" it's the answer for anything you want it to be.
Bush mentioned "god" so often, and had the gall to say the dead soldiers are in a better place..yea, 6 feet under.
As an aside, the last people you want to debate with, are preachers and clergymen. Their very livelihood depends on faith. The dumbest are the most faithful and willing, and the smartest are the most devious and seemingly devout.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
i think i hear the pot calling for the kettle...
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
I agree with you.. How sad it is to know that without religion.. this world would be a far better place.. Maybe with the exception of Buddhists....
Don't give the Buddhists a pass, the Cambodia of Pol Pot, and events around the Tamul Tiger conflict in Sri Lanka suggest otherwise. Anything which encourages disconnection from reality is potentially a problem, either encouraging evils or allowing people to ignore them.
The Jaines, maybe...
Favorite oxymorons: Gospel Truth, Rational Supernaturalist, Business Ethics, Christian Morality
"Theology is now little more than a branch of human ignorance. Indeed, it is ignorance with wings." - Sam Harris
The path to Truth lies via careful study of reality, not the dreams of our fallible minds - me
From the sublime to the ridiculous: Science -> Philosophy -> Theology
SON OF A BITCH! WHY AM I ALWAYS THE LAST ONE TO KNOW? BIG FOOT ISN'T REAL?
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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Sorry I was to break the news to you... But, unlike the believers of JC, you found out while you were still alive!!!
You're using a really awesome font size, but it's so big it reads as if it were for my great grandmother's eyes...
I bet you say that to all the girls...
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
What size should I use?? By the way I am a 70 year old GRANDFATHER!!
Oh... well then this is awkward...
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
I don't believe in Bigfoot, but a naturally selected ape man running around in the woods is a lot more plausible than miracles and prophecies.
Your sarcasm detector... it's due for a checkup.
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
I can't argue with your logic!!!!
Sarcasm??? Or a valid point of view??
I was talking about Brian37's post
Sorry.. My bad