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Did Jesus Rise from the Dead?- Bart Ehrman v. William Lane Craig
Posted on: May 12, 2010 - 6:32pm
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Did Jesus Rise from the Dead?- Bart Ehrman v. William Lane Craig
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No he did not, anymore than Cindy Crawford gave me a blow job 5 seconds ago. Anymore than George Washington farted a full sized Lamborghini out of his ass.
And Harry Potter is just a character played by an actor. And Elvis is dead. There was no 3rd man on the grassy knoll.
I find the title of the thread superfluous and just as absurd as when I first gave up superstition.
The problem with such an absurd claim is a little medical known fact called RIGOR MOTIS!
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the title of the thread is the title of the video, so dont blame me
Not blaming you, just answering the question.
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I have said it before Brian37, real jesus freaks can disregard rigor mortis, god is all powerful and could take a dead jesus and make him perfectly fit. He could make him have 5 heads and an extra tally wacker, god can do anything. Again this is why I don't bother with the zombie jesus theory. When people mention it it almost sounds like it WOULD be possible, it's just rigor mortis that makes it not possible. It's not possible in the first place.
We are talking about a deity here that can take some dust or a rib bone and make a person, poof, what's rigor mortis or brain damage to someone like that? Poof new brain, poof new body poof poof poof.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
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OK, so why has god never (even in the bible) taken a severed limb and gone poof! to fix it? Come on, if he can provide extra taliwhachers, fixing amputees out to be easy enough for him.
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I guess we just haven't seen it. This guy makes planets, you tellin' me he can't fix a severed limb or something? lol
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
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Hate it interrupt this atheist circle jerk, but...
Ehrman really sucked in this debate. I'm suprised, becasue he's smarter than Craig. He ended up relying on the scientific argument while not adequately addressing Craig's historical arguments. If I was an Atheist, I would refrain from relying on Ehrman for historical arguments. He's a brilliant man, but he can't shake some of the presuppositions that he developed at Moody Bible.
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From what I have heard of Ehrman, I don't find him that impressive.
I will agree that his historical ideas are a bit shaky - he seems way too certain of the historicity of a Jesus figure than the evidence justifies, IMHO.
Craig is quite eloquent but ultimately shallow.
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I couldn't possibly watch that clip unbiased. See, I have read chapter 1 of Craig's book Reasonable Faith, and it's the dumbest thing I've ever read. Pure, eloquent bullshit. I'm damaged for life, but at least I'm not a shallow bullshitter like Craig.
I didn't like Ehrman's style and delivery and I didn't like Craig's content and dodging.
A poor debate that could have been summed up in a a single paragraph by both parties.
I'll admit though, I only watched about 45 minutes of it. I stopped when Erhman said it was highly unlikely that Jesus was resurrected from the dead and presented a more likely scenario, and Craig responded by saying it was only unlikely if it was a natural resurrection and a supernatural resurrection is not so improbable. Because, you know, magic is always a highly probably solution to a mystery. At that point I realized I was wasting my time watching shitty third rate apologetics constructed out of giant fallacies.
If anyone watched it, and it gets better, let me know.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
If god and jesus are so all knowing and wise, why did Jesus leave after his resurrection. Why didn't he have the foresight you know, to chat it up with some of the period historians. He could have hung out and turned some more water into wine and stuff. It's awful convenient that he had to go back to pops. Why didn't Jesus himself do a bit of writing? Everything we have on this guy is years after he died. No foresight? It's awful convenient that all the "miracles" that occur today can be explained as coincidence.
Theres just a whole lot of "convenience" in religion.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
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