I am encouraging nothing other than open discussion on the topic, you are discussing censorship of the issue, no where am I being vulger, or innapropriate, or glorifying overuse of it, I am simply reffering to the issue for what it is.   Reasonable talk about the matter shouldn`t be censored, or spoken of with some overgeneralized words.  I am not immature for talking about it openly and reasonably, you are immature for not.

Not even in the slightest, I don`t feel threatened at all by your overgeneralizing, just dissapointed.  I am all for keeping kids away from heavy drugs and for that matter having sex to young, but you can`t censor what is, only educate about what is.  Censoring kids from weed is rediculous, like trying to censor kids from sex.  The only thing you do when acting this way around a teenager is label yourself the ``old fart`` kids will then hide there real life from you reflecting back at you your censorship of your life (kids are very good at picking this stuff up)instead of talking openly to you like you should to them.  The 1 thing I respected in adults when I was a teenager was being open and honest with me about the truth, the ones who acted like I was 8 only knew the `fake`side of me. 

For the record any young ones who might be reading this post:

 Moderation of all things in life could very well be one of the most important guidelines we could live by, a good balance of things is necessary.  For every bit of fun you get to have you have to do things `not fun.`  When you make a mess in your house, you have to spend the time cleaning it.  If you do something relatively unhealthy (eat burgers, sit on the couch all weekend, have a few beers, etc...) you should do something relatively `healthy`to balance it out (go for a walk, workout, eat a healthy meal, don`t drink this weekend etc...)   This is very important, maryjuana is just a ``thing,`` people overuse ``things.``  Overuse of anything is not good for you, eating only brussel sprouts isn`t good for you.  If you choose to try maryjuana which like alcohol almost all of you will,  do it responsibly, not before class or other important things.  Don`t ever let anything you do in your private life affect your professional life (school, work, business, etc...) this is also very important.  Keep your life balanced, and all things  as much in moderation as you can, and you will be just fine and don`t let anyone tell you otherwise. 

Yes, absolutely as long as it is reasonable and you are not promoting the overuse of it, or the use of hard very dangerous drugs, YES a 100- times YES!!!  These are 15 YEARS OLDS, not 6 years old, most 15 year olds have already either drank, had sex, smoked weed or all of the above.  This is some of the most important issues to teenagers, they are completely surronded by it,  for you to say `What am I suppose to just talk openly and honeslty about this stuff  with a 15 year old`shows where you stand on 15 year olds.   

Well for instance myself and athiest extremeist were remarking an the large advancements done in maryjuana growth resulting in very powerful strains.  This is IMMENSLY important information, just as important as making sure teenagers know the difference between a shot of beer, and a shot of tequila.  Like athiestextremeist pointed out, one way of smoking can be to strong whereas another is vertually effectless.  I then went on to say that I stay to the very light stuff and mix it (like diluting your vodka with sprite) because I think the effects of advance hydropronic maryjuana can be to strong just like the effects of drinking to many straight shots of vodka is to strong.  How can you sit there and say this is not important information. 

This has nothing to do with `feeling`` good.  It has to do with talking openly about the issue so that they feel welcome and accepted by you, if they respect you in that way they `want`` to listen to your good advice, if they don`t respect you because you are acting fake or outdated they won`t want to listen to your advice at all, because they don`t want to be anything like you.  An adult that doesn`t understand teenagers (you kids with your rap music) is the absolute number 1 thing that teenagers don`t want to become, therefor they disregard ALL advice from such persons.  I remember wanting to listen, and taking to heart the advice of the reasonalbe adults who said things like in my previous post an NOT wanting to listen to the other ``Do as i say not as I do`` adults and cutting them off entirely. 

At what`s innapropriate ofcourse so don`t be silly, this is complete bs, and now I am getting a real portrait of your side of this.  Ofourse I would never do such a thing.  However if a young girl asked me about the issue I would aswser her as honestly as I could without pushing the line, I certainly wouldn`t say `Sex is wrong, blowjobs are bad etc`` yada yada cut me out of your life bs.  If a girl asked me for advice in such a matter, I would be as open and honest as I could about it.  The first thing I would do is ask her alote of questions to find out where she is mentally so I can get a grasp of her experience and maturity on the issue.  I would surely promote responsible safe sex, and would certainly touch on my thoughts of what kind of `horn dog`creatures men are and that to respect herself she should choose her partners wisely, VERY WISELY, and to try not get sucked into populairty contests, peer pressure or doing any such acts for the wrong reasons.  I think the line is fairly clear.     

We will simply have to agree to disagree then. This is all a matter or conjecture and opinion. There is no fact or anything to argue, we are arguing over a difference in opinion and we could go alllllllllllllllll day long and get absolutely nothing done.

If I offended you I apologize, again.

Fair enough.

I'm going to play this portal game a bit, it's free until the 24th btw.

Please explain in detail 1 instance in which maryjuana use completely f**ked up someones life. If you are refereing to hard drugs I have already agreed they are harmful and you should explain why they are harmful to teens.  So... 

For maryjuana use?  Ok wait a minute you are either talking about hard drugs again which is completely different from the issue at hand or you are making absolutely no sense.  If these people you know are in jail for responsible use of maryjuana then all you are saying is it is illigal and so therefore they go to jail when they get caught using it.  If you are saying they go to jail because they grow it, then again all you are saying is it is illigal and so therefore they go to jail because they get caught growing.  None of these point to that it is wrong.  If you are saying that they are in and our of jail because they are addicted to harddrugs and do stupid things to get them and get involved in crowds of idiots, then all you are doing is confirming the blatant difference between the 2 intoxicants and that I have already agreed with.  Comparing responsible maryjuana use to someone stealing a car to buy some herion or smuggling 50kilos of crystal meth on the street is the equivalent of comparing responsible safe sex with unprotected prostitution, and I won't allow it.

Heavy Marijuana Use May Damage Developing Brain In Teens, Young Adults

ScienceDaily (Feb. 3, 2009) — Adolescents and young adults who are heavy users of marijuana are more likely than non-users to have disrupted brain development, according to a new study. Pediatric researchers found abnormalities in areas of the brain that interconnect brain regions involved in memory, attention, decision-making, language and executive functioning skills. The findings are of particular concern because adolescence is a crucial period for brain development and maturation.

The researchers caution that the study is preliminary and does not demonstrate that marijuana use causes the brain abnormalities. However, "Studies of normal brain development reveal critical areas of the brain that develop during late adolescence, and our study shows that heavy cannabis use is associated with damage in those brain regions," said study leader Manzar Ashtari, Ph.D., director of the Diffusion Image Analysis and Brain Morphometry Laboratory in the Radiology Department of The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

The study appeared early last month in the Journal of Psychiatric Research. The current research builds on previous work by Ashtari and colleagues, who used the same imaging technology to analyze normal brain development in adolescent subjects.

In the current study, working with child psychiatrist Sanjiv Kumra, M.D., now at the University of Minnesota, Ashtari and colleagues performed imaging studies on 14 young men from a residential drug treatment center in New York State, as well as 14 age-matched healthy controls. All the study subjects were males, with an average age of 19. The researchers performed the imaging studies at Long Island Jewish Medical Center.

The 14 subjects from the drug treatment center all had a history of heavy cannabis use during adolescence. On average, they had smoked marijuana from age 13 till age 18 or 19, and reported smoking nearly 6 marijuana joints daily in the final year before they stopped using the drug.

The study team performed a type of magnetic resonance imaging scan called diffusion tensor imaging (DTI) that measures water movement through brain tissues. "The abnormal patterns of water diffusion that we found among the young men with histories of marijuana use suggest damage or an arrest in development of the myelin sheath that surrounds brain cells," said Ashtari. Myelin provides a coating around brain cells similar to insulation covering an electrical wire. If myelin does not function properly, signaling within the brain may be slower.

Myelin gives its color to the white matter of the brain, and covers the nerve fibers that connect different brain regions. "Our results suggest that early-onset substance use may alter the development of white matter circuits, especially those connections among the frontal, parietal and temporal regions of the brain," said Ashtari. "Abnormal white matter development could slow information transfer in the brain and affect cognitive functions."

Ashtari added that the findings are preliminary. Among other limitations of the study, such as a small sample size, five of the 14 subjects with heavy cannabis use also had a history of alcohol abuse, which may have contributed an effect. Also, it is possible that the brain abnormalities may have predisposed the subjects to drug dependence, rather than drug usage causing the brain abnormalities.

"Further research should be done to investigate the relation between repeated marijuana use and white matter development," said Ashtari. "However, our work reinforces the idea that the adolescent brain may be especially vulnerable to risky behaviors such as substance abuse, because of crucial neural development that occurs during those years."

The National Institute of Mental Health provided grant support for this research. Ashtari's and Kumra's co-authors were Kelly Cervellione, of Jamaica Hospital Medical Center, Jamaica, N.Y.; John Cottone, of Zucker Hillside Hospital, Glen Oaks, N.Y.; and Babak A. Ardekani, of The Nathan Kline Institute for Psychiatric Research, Orangeburg, N.Y. Serge Sevy of Zucker Hillside Hospital also contributed to the project.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090202175105.htm

There are other studies if you chase them, I think. Some concern an increase in schizophrenia in young people with a disposition. The upshot is, kids should not smoke.

For the record, alcohol is considered much worse for teen brains, with permanent cognitive deficits for those who go too hard under the age of about 21/22. Neither is recommended...

http://www.physorg.com/news157280425.html

I sniff glue all the time. It explains a good bit of my behavior...

Elmers glue doesn't count. Next you will be telling us how you ate paste once in school.

BRILLIANT!!! 3:40's the best