Gods is Man
Offline Throughout the bible there is not one real reference to any godlike behavior. The bahavior of this deity is much like any other fictional character and is packed with a mans feeling, emotions, wants etc. The bible on occasion even expresses disdain and outright hatred. Common enough traits among mankind but does this seem petty for a supreme being with ultimate power?
I'll start with one of the most obvious, and perhaps other people will chime in with more, because there are so many examples and this is pretty easy.
God gave his only begotten son to save the world. What was and likely may still be the most important thing to a man? His only son perhaps? What could be more grand and tragic at the same time than for a mans son to die saving the world?
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
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God did not make humans and humans are not gods. Humans simply make up gods and believe them to be real. Humans do not have super powers but they do have emagination.
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Eh, I'm looking for more examples of how "god" is just like a petty man from the first century within the pages of script found in the bible. I already cited one glaring example.
edit: I could kick myself for not proofreading.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
The book is filled with petty human characteristics of the god of abraham. Here's just 1:
(2 Samuel 10: 11-14)
11 This is what Jehovah has said, ‘Here I am raising up against you calamity out of your own house; and I will take your wives under your own eyes and give them to your fellowman, and he will certainly lie down with your wives under the eyes of this sun. 12 Whereas you yourself acted in secret, I, for my part, shall do this thing in front of all Israel and in front of the sun.
Here the god of abraham clearly shows his need for revenge. Not just revenge but revenge that is worse than the "offense" of the accused. A quite sick revenge indeed. This is a human characteristic, I feel it all the time. Someone screws me on a job for a couple hundred bucks and I "think about" and "feel like" getting revenge, big revenge like... scratching their entire car, or painting their entire house black (never raping their wife in public though), or a million others things that pop up into my head. It is my human, petty, and imperfect side that has these thoughts, I don't act on them ofcourse because I know they are irrational thoughts I must put aside, but they are there. To think an all powerful perfectly wise being not only has these thoughts, but acts on them is just bloody silly.
I was under the impression that this is the reason the Bible says that man is created in the image of the god the Bible describes.
I don't understand why the Christians I meet find it so confusing that I care about the fact that they are wasting huge amounts of time and resources playing with their imaginary friend. Even non-confrontational religion hurts atheists because we live in a society which is constantly wasting resources and rejecting rational thinking.
Read the first book of genealogy of morals by nietzsche. It explains that the god of the bible isn't just man made but was invented by the weak members of society in an attempt to control the strong. All of the actions and teachings of Jesus and the bible are the actions that the hebrew slaves (or generally the weak and impotent) would advocate in order to gain power i.e. love thy enemy, be meek etc
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So god is a ethereal supreme being that looks and acts like a man.
Anyway I just thought it would be a good idea to spew out all the god = man propoganda from the written word..of men.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
"God is love."
If God indeed created Man in "his" image, then it stands to reason that he must have had a *ENORMOUS* penis...
Because ...and stay with me here...
There is not a man anywhere, who would create an entire race of beings, and give anyone a bigger Hog than he had... So I am figuring Milton Berle, and maybe a little better than that... Which might be the only plausible thing I have ever heard about religion, because *THAT* would make him "Almighty"
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True, he could look a bit like Ron Jeremy. But who is he screwin'? ...oh yea, us ><
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
It would seem easier to write about than to actually do it, yes. The written word is a step above the spoken which is a step above the thought, the deed in itself would be larger than the sum of all those parts combined.
Another thing that occurs to me, if you think about doing something bad and it is considered a sin and can send you to hell, what about thinking of something noble like..oh I don't know, maybe wanting to save the world's children from starvation or some such. Would that be a free ticket to "heaven"?
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
ah, still usin' the good ol' new world translation, i see...
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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Using an obsure translation would be pretty meaningless. Theists always want to bring up "but the original text blah blah says". Yes thats nice but the new one says this and this is what people are freakin believing. If they make a new bible version that inserts the kool aid man in place of jesus people will be digging up dirt on the kool aid man.
I own a couple of different bibles but they are both kjv, one regular and a childrens..which oddly enough seem to be the same read. One has pictures though, weeeeeeeeeee.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
well, it was basically just a wink at nmcp, since i know he used to be a jehovah's witness and my grandmother was one, so i can spot the nwt a mile away ("jehovah" is a dead giveaway).
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Alote of questionable quotes I have written down in my computer are from my mom's Johovah's Witness bible (new world translation of the holy scriptures) which I read through a few months back. It's just easier for me instead of finding the verses again in other translations, I have all these ones neatly recorded.
The "new world translation" from my knowledge is just a little polished, they use jehovah in place of lord, and a few other small things, the rest is vertually identical. All the verses I have compared word for word to the king james version say the exact same thing, it is just worded a little different. The verse is the same. Also I misquoeted 10 insted of 12 the verse is 2Samuel 12 11-12. And here is the king james version next to the new world translation.
I don't think the translation is that "obsure" or meaningless atall. 99.9% of the book is vertually identical. Good enough to quote as "the bible" atleast.
Edit: I quote the new world also because it is the book I have many times cover to cover. I've never read the king james version cover to cover. And so if I was quoting the king james version and a theist says "you just picked that verse off of some website," they would be correct, and I don't like giving them that free jab. My notes from the new world translation are from reading the physical book in my hands cover to cover (a thing many christians say is the only way to "get it" ) I found this makes my position on the verses more credible to the theist knowing I read the 10 pages before the verse, and the 10 pages after the verse and so on in order like they say you need to to understand the book. For that reason, untill I've read the king james version cover to cover I will probably always quote the nwt. (I'ts the same damb book anyways)
I'm no bible expert, I have read the kjv 3x now but only remember parts. It's such a jumble of carp who wants to remember all of it? I became an atheist before I read the bible a second time, I read it when I was a kid and believed it. Through basic common sense I became an "agnostic" for a short time and then an atheist. Since that time I have reread the bible, done some actual looking around with a bit of study and I am constantly boggled now at how anyone could really believe all this carp. What can be done to one as a child that can last into and past adulthood is astonishing. I am constantly irritated at the irrational way people behave and think they are basing their lives on this garbage. Nowdays rereading the bible and learning new information is almost detrimental to me, I lose faith in the human race when I see what we are capable of believing and indeed, want to believe. Sometimes it seems a comically sarcastic world we live in.
Everything in the bible is based on the perspective of hateful, vindictive, assinine men from 2000 years ago but why do so many Refuse to see this? You don't have to be an expert, you don't have to go to school, you don't have to do anything but read the thing to comprehend this.
The menstral blood part is another excellent example but I am much too lazy to copy/paste it. It was obviously written by a man who had no fukin clue what the menstral cycle is but bleeding down there just HAS to be bad and probably some kind of CURSE huh.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
Yes, one of my favorites:
From the NWT:
(Leviticus 15: 19-33)
19 “‘And in case a woman is having a running discharge, and her running discharge in her flesh proves to be blood, she should continue seven days in her menstrual impurity, and anyone touching her will be unclean until the evening. 20 And anything upon which she may lie down in her menstrual impurity will be unclean, and everything upon which she may sit will be unclean. 21 And anyone touching her bed should wash his garments, and he must bathe in water and be unclean until the evening. 22 And anyone touching any article upon which she was sitting should wash his garments, and he must bathe in water and be unclean until the evening. 23 And if it was upon the bed or upon another article that she was sitting, by his touching it he will be unclean until the evening. 24 And if a man lies down with her at all and her menstrual impurity comes to be upon him, he must then be unclean seven days, and any bed upon which he might lie down will be unclean.
25 “‘As for a woman, in case the running discharge of her blood should be flowing many days when it is not the regular time of her menstrual impurity, or in case she should have a flow longer than her menstrual impurity, all the days of her unclean running discharge will prove as in the days of her menstrual impurity. She is unclean. 26 Any bed upon which she may lie any of the days of her running discharge will become for her as the bed of her menstrual impurity, and any article upon which she may sit will become unclean like the uncleanness of her menstrual impurity. 27 And anyone touching them will be unclean, and he must wash his garments and bathe in water and be unclean until the evening.
28 “‘However, if she has become clean from her running discharge, she must also count for herself seven days, and afterward she will be clean. 29 And on the eighth day she should take for herself two turtledoves or two young pigeons, and she must bring them to the priest at the entrance of the tent of meeting. 30 And the priest must make the one a sin offering and the other a burnt offering; and the priest must make atonement for her before Jehovah concerning her unclean running discharge.
Yea, the guy that wrote that was teh smart eh. Ritual shamanistic fractally mitigated bullshit from an ancient man who thought the earth was flat and demons and witches abound! So obvious, how do people fall for this again?
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin