Immigration and idiots
Offline I'm past tired of seeing idiots typing small items such as "your short history you are all immigrants." blah blah.
Number one, do normal people comparatively speak of all immigrants in relation to illegal immigrants? This is disgustingly retarded. (I said the R word, oh noes)
Number 2, My parents were born here, their parents were born here, and their parents before them. Now, what generation in an idiots eyes will no longer be considered "immigrants". I'm tempted to throw illegal on the back of that because they seem to not know a difference.
Number 3, I happen to like Arizonas newest immigration law, I think it is a little late but all this insane political correctness has allowed it to become a problem in the first place. I would guess most here actually disagree with the new law but, I wish Texas would employ it. Ron Paul in 2012 !
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
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Russian culture and ethnos are affected by far more by Eastern and Southern cultures than from the North. Remember that Varangians are first mentioned during the same time period as the Kiev's Rus has been established.
Of course, the history of ethnic groups is being discussed in Russia. In this regard, I would suggest you look at Lev Gumilyov's works, for example.
Thanks. I am preparing to "Google" the author.
Funny thing happened about 30 minutes ago. I stopped at the grocery store to pick up some chilada's. A Mexican girl is checking and a white guy is checking, there was one person in each line. I chose the mexican girls line (she was kinda cute) The guy in front of me was mexican, he spoke no english, it turns out the mexican girl spoke no spanish. She got frustrated with him because she couldn't understand when he said he wanted some ice cream, which is an isle over. She thought he was saying he wanted a bag of ice. Ok so I understood what he wanted and tried to lightly interject but she was irritated and he was sad. He ended up paying for ice cream AND a bag of ice. She told him he could get a refund on the bag of ice and he didn't understand that and just left. He left his bag of ice. So much had gone on that I had switch lines and left as the mexican guy was leaving. She made a groan irritated noise and took her next customer. I used to do the same thing but nowdays I just laugh it off. They come in and I can say a few words in spanish then they start going 90mph and I lose them though and then they get irritated with me, I guess it's like a tease or something.
The changes that I want, exactly! Why would I want something someone else wants if I don't like it? Do you mind if I move into your house and start telling you how to do things? This doesn't bother you? Wow! I know you can't mean this.
Farmers suck, I work at a tire store and they ALWAYS want to haggle. I had a close out brand new fuggin tire for 52$ and a used one for 50$. This farmer guy is looking at them both and finally says "I just can't afford a new one" and he actually buys the used tire, for 2 dollars less, WTF. Yea I'm stereotyping farmers lol.
I care about my little sisters future. I don't give a shit about my own, but she is young enough to see some bad changes imo. If it weren't for her my sarcastic self would be all for creationism in schools, yea let um do that and lets see what happens when we get a bunch of sarah palin drones in the near future.
We are not powerless btw, we have this internet and voices are beginning to be heard. Speak up!
I'm much to lazy to edit this properly.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
Limits, there are always limits. What I - or you - want in our own homes is no one's business but our own. Unless, of course, you are one of those who like to regulate bed room behavior. Weren't you the anti-gay guy? Do you want to regulate other people's bed rooms? And if you rent, you have the landlord's rules to follow. And, too, I live with someone else - we have to compromise all the time even after 25 years. But outside of my home? We all - me included - would like to have the changes that we like and not the ones that others want but we don't like. Don't always get what you want.
Just take what I say make as many straw men as you like.
I would like to rule the world. I would like to be the all powerful feared and beautiful goddess of everything. Then people would do what I say and like it!
I hope Doomy wouldn't want to fight about it.
I'm too lazy.
-- I feel so much better since I stopped trying to believe.
"We are entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our own facts"- Al Franken
"If death isn't sweet oblivion, I will be severely disappointed" - Ruth M.
Straw men are supposed to burn easily.
You are down to simply belittling the argument so I shall cease and desist.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
Hey rob just remember that atheists who express politically conservative opinions are a minority. That is my perception but I see nothing to indicate otherwise. Most fundamentalist Christians are right wing and most atheists gravitate toward the left. Although there is a spectrum of political beliefs ranging from mildly progressive to pro Marxist ( British forum member JCcordingly ) you will rarely observe your conservative viewpoints being accepted as anything but political "heresy" on a typical atheist forum. Conservative atheists are a minority within a minority. ( they are outsiders ...kind of like the gay conservatives who formed The Log Cabin Republicans )
There are a surprising number of forum members who seem to come out strongly as ( gasp ! ) gun owning Libertarians though. I was a card carrying member of the local Libertarian Party for quite a while. Also, the president of the grass roots, gun rights association that I was a member of was a Libertarian and an atheist.
PS, I'm not saying that conservative atheists are not tolerated ...they just have to sit at the back of the bus.
What planet are you on? The forum seems to me to be about equally divided between left and right leaning and heavy on the libertarians. Or at least they are the most vocal. So since you feel liberals rule here and I feel libertarians rule here, both of us are wrong and it must be about equal.
When I was young, I was considered somewhere to the right of Ghengis Khan because I championed the right of a business to make a profit. I still feel that way. My revised opinion is that a corporation does not need to make billions of dollars in profit (you know profit, after taxes and other expenses) by screwing their customers, monopolizing the market, or ignoring standard industry safety practices. I still believe there are too many regulations intended for corporations who are able to wriggle out of them but adversely affect small businesses. I am now considered somewhere to the left of Karl Marx because I added those caveats to my young uninformed viewpoint. I don't think I have changed that much. I think it is the culture that has changed. See, Rob, it doesn't always change the way a particular person wants change to go. And there is damn little I personally can do about the persistent onslaught of corporate influence.
I also find it astonishing that because I would like legislation to be logical, have some hope of effective enforcement, and be reasonably cost effective with some sort of idea of a ROI, I am considered a liberal. This is just amazing - all laws are okay as long as they suck into your ideas of what should be and damn the costs and the actual effects. Ah, but never raise taxes to pay for it - what planet are you living on?
As for the costs of illegal immigration, all the studies I have seen show a slight benefit to the average American. It doesn't matter if you or I have a "feel" that the studies must be incorrect. How is this different for having a "feel" for the existence of god/s/dess? If you don't like the results, go read the fricking study yourself and come up with some rational objections. Don't tell me you "feel" it is wrong. Maybe neither of you two, Prozac or Rob, have actually said this-maybe it was RichWoods. But no one has bothered to refute the studies either. Real facts, real data. Otherwise, this conversation is finished for me as I'm tired of shadow boxing.
-- I feel so much better since I stopped trying to believe.
"We are entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our own facts"- Al Franken
"If death isn't sweet oblivion, I will be severely disappointed" - Ruth M.
DIRL!
(That one took me a little while back in 2001)
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Yea you are probably right. There are a few here that have come to the conclusion that political correctness is and will destroy this society though and some may lean more left than myself. I honestly think I sit in the middle somewhere. Some things I'm fairly liberal on, like gay marriage. cj claims I'm "anti-gay" she has confused that with being a person with homophobia. I don't like it, and I don't think it's ..er let's not go there. But I think they should be getting married TODAY. I am not anti-abortion, I'm all for it, but on a personal level I do not like it. I know how to put what I think is actually best ahead of my own likes and dislikes in most cases. It's not hard really when it's not actually going to have a negative impact on me or mine.
I can only go by what I see and what common sense I have, or at least what I consider to be common sense. You know, looking around at whats going on in other countries and understanding whats happening. It's so amazing the hard lefters in england refuse to aknowledge they even have a problem. Everything is peachy, meanwhile protestors outside are chanting about killing people, you know, normal stuff.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
Jesus, what are you being so defensive about ? I'm not in a pissing contest with you. Be what ever you want to be and champion whatever cause you feel like supporting, I just express myself here I'm not trying to dominate you or convert you to my personal pov.
I never even mentioned you in my previous post. Anyway, I'm used to being odd man out here. So what ?
Chill. Don't take it personally, I wasn't deriding you.
I'm relatively certain the founder of this website doesn't have the "watch the world go round because I can't do anything about" it mentality.
Belittling someones opinion and mode of thought does not make your's the right one, only the one you prefer.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
The sponsors of this Bill should be shot for treason... http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv
www.RichWoodsBlog.com
wow
Mosques at the ground zero site, creationism in schools, and this. We will be living in the middle ages again.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
I always take talking heads - any talking head of any persuasion - with a grain of salt. But what he says sounds pretty lame.
I do find it annoying that when Mr. Dobbs says that the tax payers will have to pay for the lawyers it is something to get upset about. When I say it, it is generally ignored.
-- I feel so much better since I stopped trying to believe.
"We are entitled to our own opinions. We're not entitled to our own facts"- Al Franken
"If death isn't sweet oblivion, I will be severely disappointed" - Ruth M.
Talking monkeys are irrelevant.
Must exterminate! *beep* *beep*
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
Get after it, just don't do it from the side, things tend to be harder to target well from that angle.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
Not really. It's just that Texas leads the way in epic stupidity and douchebaggery. Maybe if they weren't stupid enough to say stupid shit like "Don't mess with Texas." I would feel pity instead of disgust and anger.
"Faith, Faith is an island in the setting sun,
but proof, proof is the bottom line for everyone."
Proof, Paul Simon
Nothing this hard should taste so beefy.
Where did I say they shouldn't take some pains to assimilate themselves?
"Faith, Faith is an island in the setting sun,
but proof, proof is the bottom line for everyone."
Proof, Paul Simon
Nothing this hard should taste so beefy.
No where; you simply said "Fuck Texas".
As many talking-monkey-milkers as there is in TX... I'm included to pun your remark. However... I simply go straight for a
inclined, even
“A meritocratic society is one in which inequalities of wealth and social position solely reflect the unequal distribution of merit or skills amongst human beings, or are based upon factors beyond human control, for example luck or chance. Such a society is socially just because individuals are judged not by their gender, the colour of their skin or their religion, but according to their talents and willingness to work, or on what Martin Luther King called 'the content of their character'. By extension, social equality is unjust because it treats unequal individuals equally.” "Political Ideologies" by Andrew Heywood (2003)
You may not be aware that the "don't mess with Texas" slogan is actually part of a campaign to stop littering. lol
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin
I didn't know that. I've only ever heard it in the context of undeserved boasting.
"Faith, Faith is an island in the setting sun,
but proof, proof is the bottom line for everyone."
Proof, Paul Simon
Nothing this hard should taste so beefy.
There used to be a certain "wild west" pride here. On occasion a retard cowboy wanna be will walk in where I work complete with his retard ass spurs on.
Thankfully they seem to be dying out.
How do they drive with those things on? Four inches of metal tipped by a spinning pain sprocket on the back of your heel.
Faith is the word but next to that snugged up closely "lie's" the want.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in god, in none."-Charlie Chaplin