Merry Christmas, Folks....
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I realize that different people view this time of the year differently... and that not everyone is as adolescent as I am....But for whatever this time of the year might mean to any of you... Theist and Atheist alike.... I want to wish everyone a "Merry and a Happy".... I have come to rely on the acumen of many of the posters here... even when I read a post that makes me think that some of you have eaten lead paint chips in your childhoods... But This forum is a special "place"... I'm proud to be a part of anything that involves ending ignorance, bigotry, and dishonesty... and revels in seeking the truth...
...so from me & my wife, Jane... Ho Ho Ho
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I see what you mean. I do like the joyous festive season and that has NOTHING to do with being a Christian. Christmas has been so commercialized that it has NOTHING to do with Christianity anymore in society. Look at all the Xmas lights, sales, and events...they are all about being festive and celebrating but you rarely see the word "Jesus".
Growing up no one even asked me if I was a Christian but just said Merry Xmas in a festive cheerful SECULAR manner. So in that sense I'm all for it! Plus Xmas trees and lights are Native European and NOT Christian.
You realize the Pilgrims and Europeans BANNED Xmas because they considered it Pagan and not Christian? Even some of the Colonies banned Xmas!!
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Hot wife dude! I hope she's atheist/agnostic right?
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Fuck it love Christmas. I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness, so I had my first Christmas at 17. Now I have a sister, niece and nephew, girlfriend + extended family who all play the Christmas game, has nothing to do with Christianity, I love the family, it's just good times. Merry Christmas and solstice and...whatever.
Merry Capitalism Everyone.
Truth to be told, I have never liked Christmas. I didn't like it during all of my theist years in the Catholic Church and do not like it now. But have no problem with people enjoying it anyway that they see fit. Have fun and take care over the holidays everyone.
P.S. Nice pictures Rich
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― Giordano Bruno
Have a great Solstices Eve or Happy Feast of Mithra, whatever you want to call it.
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HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!
(whatever you want to call it)
I've always loved 'Christmas'... the tree, lights. gathering of good friends and family and all the good food...and of course, the presents!
Christmas is just as good even when you leave out the 'Christ' and spell it 'Xmas'!
Nice tree, Rich!
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In my defense, it looked like a piece of candy!
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Happy Yuletide from England, If I'm honest, I've always preferred the olde pagan ways in this country, at least they have more merit than the vicious orthodoxy. I once explained to a Christian the difference.
On December the 31st we go to bed, and wake up the next morning in sub zero temperatures, dark, freezing, bloody miserable sights, bouts of gerbil flu or whatever it's called now, and we go around wishing everyone "Happy New Year", what's happy about it, the scenery is dead, bare, sodden and utterly lifeless. However, from the pagan perspective at least, go to bed on the eve of 20th of March and hey presto, next morning, flowers, greenery, buds on the trees, birds returning from emigration, light mornings, and a spring in your step, Spring Equinox, wonderful, Happy New Year, and not a dead bloke on a cross in sight.
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Well, just because religion insists on inserting itself into holidays does not really mean that the holiday at hand really has anything to do with religion. Today can be considered as the type example.
We know that it has nothing to do with xtian stuff because it was a holiday long before and it was kind of called a holiday by xtians because they wanted to take over from earlier religions. However, the fact is that the early church never made a huge deal over the matter.
Let's consider xtian theology here. We all know the deal. Today is about god's birthday. Well everyone has a birthday, nothing special to see here, move along. Xtianity is all about the idea of some guy dieing and living to tell about it. So the early church did not make a big deal over the matter.
In fact, the holiday did not become a big deal until the industrial revolution. You know the story about Ebeneezer Scrooge? That was a Victorian era stab at social engineering. It and other stories that did not become a big part of the day are all about encouraging us to go out and buy stuff that we would not otherwise have done.
Even then, religion did not get involved until after it became popular to deride the crass commercialism that attends the day. Is Jesus “the reason for the season” as theists are wont to claim? Well, I suppose that there is a level on which that kind of fits with the general theist crap. Yet he has only been the reason for the season for about thirty years now.
The whole thing is about the culture of throwing shit out when you are done with it so that you can buy more stuff. Back in the 60's, my mom had a special tool for shoving in a sock to hold it open when you wanted to sew up the holes. Today, socks are to be disposed of when they get old. That and jseus is the reason for the season...now.
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Merry crimbo peeps. Got two youngish kids. Santa is here right now. Systems, ideas and the rest can kiss my ass. I make sure my boys are good, my nephews are good, bairns are great. Call me a liar and a fake! My lies and my fake, my kids and my false day! Long as the the kids in the family are good, I can live with my soul sellout!
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Yeah, me too! I got gifts around the tree as a kid just like I'm sure you all did! BUT the Xmas tree, wreath, mistletoe, etc. is all Native European so it's NOT Christian. I like the COMMERCIAL SECULAR Christmas which has nothing to do with Christianity.
Once you leave church Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus anymore. In the outside world it's a totally commericalized festive secular holiday that applies to all of us!
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