Want To Make A Website?
I wouldn't even think of doing this if I wasn't absolutely amazed at how awesome my website host is. They give you 40 MB of free space. If you log into your account only once a month they don't put any adds on your site. I have had The Pathway Machine since July of 2009 and have never had an add on my site.
It is reliable, my site has never been down. If you need more space they give you 40 more MB for simply downloading a toolbar and then the toolbar gives you credits for every time you search something. With credits you can buy more space or bandwidth. In just about a week I had earned 100 credits and I hardly do searches on the web. They also give you 5 credits a day. With the hundred credits I had in the first week I bought 100 extra MB of space. With - like, I think it is 300 or 500 credits I can buy a GB of bandwidth.
All they ask is that you place a small logo at the bottom of each page, which they supply along with a small snippet of code. If you don't do that they have one automatically at the bottom of each page which looks like those Meebo tabs you might have seen, which I had for a while and isn't all that intrusive.
If you need more sophisticated hosting such as PHP, FTP, CGI, Rails etc. their paid services are very fair.
I highly recommend the HTML version rather than the sort of automated one where they provide the templates, but that is just me. Even if you don't know CSS or as I prefer, HTML, you have more control of it in that you can always just copy CSS codes if you don't like their templates and stuff, though theirs are nice as well.
So if you are thinking about making a website it is easy and great fun.
I hope this isn't considered as spam because I get nothing out of it. I just wanted to share it with anyone who is interested.
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It's ok as long as you didn't inhale.
Just the shit about the art teacher, little beard, the rest of it is bullshit.
BobSpence,
For reference, I recommend SitePoint Reference, Mozilla Developer Network, and W3C. For tutorials, I recommend SitePoint Articles and A List Apart. For the problems with W3Schools, I recommend W3Fools.
David Henson,
The rest is bullshit? The rest was a mere statement that your writing style reminded me of something. As such, your claim that it's bullshit could only stem from the delusion that you are a good mind-reader, from an inability to comprehend what was written, or from the mistaken belief that people will take you more seriously when you use the word 'bullshit' instead of the more appropriate 'hyperbole'. As for the little beard remark, I do not have a beard in that picture and I do not have one now. That dark region by my ear: that's a shadow; and the peach region around my chin: that's my chin.
Stultior stulto fuisti, qui tabellis crederes!
It's sort of a (drumroll) visual paradox.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
I have been using MDN and W3C - they are both bookmarked. I will have a look at those other sites, thanks.
Favorite oxymorons: Gospel Truth, Rational Supernaturalist, Business Ethics, Christian Morality
"Theology is now little more than a branch of human ignorance. Indeed, it is ignorance with wings." - Sam Harris
The path to Truth lies via careful study of reality, not the dreams of our fallible minds - me
From the sublime to the ridiculous: Science -> Philosophy -> Theology
Not wanting to hijack Davids thread here... and if need be, I'll gladly start a new one but, since AIG has already posted the first steps, I thought I'd just jump in here.
So, I want to skip steps 1 & 2 and go right to starting up the web site. According to your instructions, I need to download Sea Monkey...is this correct?
Would you mind walking me through the process?
I want to have a web site for my new retail business - no online sales, though, just information for my customers and prospective customers; catalog, item pricing, new items, sale items, etc... with images, a place to communicate back and forth. I want my own domain name 'Business.com' Not, 'Business.etsy.com'. I don't want to pay for advertising someone else's web site.
I set up a web site through Register.com (don't have it anymore) so, I'm familiar with the process, somewhat. register.com was very limited in features and left little room for creativity.
So, should I download Sea Monkey first or, get my domain name from godaddy?
'Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.' A. Einstein
OK Sandy, you do not need to follow any rules, not even mine. They are directed at people of various skill levels and your needs are probably well past the level 1 stuff.
You do not need seamonkey. That is for people who need to start at a really simple level and get up and running with the least possible learning curve. Actually, I would start you with Joomla.
That has a minimal admin headache and you can choose from a few hundred free templates for the basic look and feel of your site. You can also do your own template if you really want to. That is not so easy as using an existing free one but it is not really that hard once you have studied the matter.
If you want to have a homebrew template, I would suggest that once you have the site up and running, then you set up a private area for testing purposes. You will need an extra database to run a second copy of joomla but since nobody else can see it, you can do what you want with it.
You will need a host that can support at least on owner database just to get Joomla running. Most hosts let you have a few owner databases, thus making it easier to expand.
Seriously, go with godaddy for now. They will give you everything that you need and a fair bit of the more that you don't need now but might in the future.
Also, don't forget that your site will change over time. Sure, you don't need a shopping cart for now. However, will you want one a couple of years from now? Honestly, I am not going to check godaddy to see what the first level package is. If it does not have a shopping cart, it is not really that big of a deal.
If you need a shopping cart down the road and it is not in your current plan, it can be added trivially when the time comes. It might involve more money on that but then, such is the cost of business. If you have to pay an extra $50/month to do $500 worth of business, well, that is what you are going to do.
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@Visual_Paradox:
I am certain that you missed what I was saying. If you go back to when I was first in this thread, you will see that I am trying to hit many targets, each at different levels of familiarity.
Unless I totally misread David, he seems to be saying that you should go with a free host who will give you a half transparent logo that will remain on screen no matter how far down the page you scroll.
Honestly, that kind of bugs me. I would feel that I was wearing my underwear outside of my clothing by doing that. ISP hosting will not have that crap going on. Past that, you are fully right that ISP hosting has some serious reservations.
ISP hosting with free bandwidth is quite limited. Lots of people on your site clearly kicks you up a level or two. Also, you could change ISPs at some point and then you have to deal with moving everything. However, as long as you are not breaking the TOS for your ISP, then you are not likely going to run into much trouble.
As far as my suggestion to not use modern features such as CSS, again, that is directed at a specific low level crowd.
Sure, it may happen ten years from now that the H1 tag will no longer work but it will until then. Umm, if you start a web site today, then you will be good to go until then. By that time, you should be up to speed on what you have to do.
I actually have one of the first geocities cites. Since they do not exist, it is only in the wayback machine and one day, it will happen that some of my code no longer works. I fully expect that it will turn into basic white pages with no formatting. When that happens, well, such is my lot in life.
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Now, past that, it is fairly clear that you do web pages far more often that I do. You need to live and breath stuff so you need to be on top of the newest stuff. I don't.
The last site that I did was for a friend about two years ago. She is an artist who wanted a gallery site with a half dozen pages, each of which had to have a different look and feel. Yet they all had to look exactly the same in all browsers.
OK, I can't promise all of that but still, she had tried to do it on her own and using the newest tools. She could not get anything useful, so she asked me for some help.
I did the entire site in standard W3C HTML 4.0 code in notepad. N That much should work for the next few years. Past that, she is going to have to get either me or someone else to take care of whatever comes up but I am fine with what I did for at least a few years. No CSS was used.
Would CSS do things that are “nice”? Of course. Is CSS something that she needs? Hardly.
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I use rackspace for our corporate site, but that's probably overkill for Sandy.
I agree, just stick with godaddy for a registrar and a host for now. The $4.99 per month plan would be more than enough to start with.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.