The whole Islamic/tribal honor thing is so totally foreign to me I have a hard time grasping how a person can become so angry at something like that.

 

Obviously it happens though.  I wonder if that attitude can survive a generation or two of integration and wealth?  There has to be some die off of those ideas...although clearly it happens, since I assume this young lady is not from a poor family.

 

I'm glad it made it to the courts though, and I hope she stays safe.  And marries an atheist for good measure, maybe the brother's heart will give out and spare everyone some trouble.

Sigh.  I mean, I hope he learns the error of his ways and becomes a productive, non-violent and tolerant member of society after his time of rehabilitation.

 

This reminds me of a disgraceful occurrence that happened in my community of Kingston Ontario Canada.  I think it was three years ago that a car was found submerged in the rideau canal just north of the city. Unfortunately, two young teen girls and their aunt were in that car presumably drowned in an accident. It took about a week for the local Police to discover that this was not an accident.  The parents and son were of Muslim descent and were immigrants living in Montreal. The teens were not conforming to the strict life set out for them by the mother, father and brother and on a trip back from Toronto to Montreal they stayed overnight in Kingston about halfway between the two cities. It was explained to local reporters that the girls had stolen their parents car at the hotel and gone for a joy ride. The father even went so far as to say the girls were out of control teens and their aunt, who didn't have a drivers licence, was a bad influence. The father mother and brother are now on trial for murder in what is referred to as an honour killing. The attack on Afshan Azad has nothing to do with her but everything to do with her brothers' perceived honour or loss of it. Sad.

 

Such behavior happens everywhere, there's a plenty of families like that, many families have a bully in them, and not always it has to be a man. All it needs is to have one or more really fucked-up family members, plus some alcoholism or some other factor that spoils them. It may be money, bad company, bad upbrigning, increased production of adrenaline through genetic anomaly, slight mental debilitation, whatever.
But only Muslim bullies make excuses that it is Islam, which requires them to be sadistic slaveholders. It is not Islam anyway, it's pre-Muhammadian tribal customs that Old Testament tells us about. Muhammad did a lousy job of abolishing these in his own religion.

I'm not sure if there is anything like extremistic Muslims in Europe, only those suffering under American or Israeli invasion armies in their homeland might be true extremists. European-type extremists are just bullies that tag along with any ideology that unites them in violence. For immigrants it is Islam, for local white mugs it is mostly soccer hooligan groups and Neonazism. Some are anarchists or punkers, (which are basically somewhat peaceful in a rough way) and some small groups have no name at all. These are proverbially new forms of life, idea-driven herds that take a life of their own and people involved in them are dragged around. (people like me call them egregores) I think there is nothing wrong with crackdown on these groups, just like slavery is banned for corporations and Inquisition practices are banned for Churches. Don't let these extremistic groups think that they have rights, because they don't. They don't reflect the needs or virtues of people, quite opposite.

The problem is, that soccer hooligans will not try to get into government, though certain local extremistic right-wingers in my country seriously tried to get into chairs. (fortunately the party was banned) But even if they would, they would get spoiled by high salary and selfish like anyone else in politics.
The problem with Muslims is, that if they get to the government, they will most likely stay loyal to Islam, xenophobia, gender oppression, intolerance, and so on, because that will provide them steady income of votes.

I think the campaigns should denounce namely violence, xenophobia, intolerance, oppression of women, and so on. These crimes must be identified for what they are and condemned as such. But they should not mention or emphasize the words Muslim, Islam, Sharia, burqua. Of course, the campaigns should display specific cases of violence of Muslims, Islam, Sharia, burquas from inside and outside, extremists, crazy traditions and so on, and best of all, all of this should be ridiculed. That is how it was done with local anti-neonazism TV campaign, which ridiculed them thoroughly.
In this way the bullies should be unable to hide their bloodlusty wants behind Islam.
Violent Muslims are right to be afraid of mere caricatures in newspaper, ridicule is very effective weapon against any totalitarian policy, as it was shown recently with internet censorship in China, Soviet communism and you surely know the Disney's Donald duck film about Nazism. Make downright killing jokes about them. And then take cover.
I think Muslim satire will have to be done through computer animation, because no actors will dare to step in front of cameras like that.

Hell, someone should make a videogame called Muhammad Bomberman

We might have someone arrested in this country for this crap. But even without the physical violence, many Christians would disown their family members for dating outside the religion. So just because the west has laws against violence, don't think for a second that some Christians in this country wouldn't disown their own family members for dating outside their religion.

Again, going after violent Muslims misses the point that the tribalism of Christianity has only had a leash on it for 200 years, and it's underpinnings of sexism and tribalism are still in place.