Palestine wins UNESCO membership bid, gets hax0rzed

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Palestine wins UNESCO membership bid, gets hax0rzed

 

Finally, some good news, despite opposition of US and Israel, Palestine has won membership with the United Nation's cultural and scientific organisation UNESCO

 

Then a hacking attack brought down Palestinian servers.

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15542820

 

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The main phone network in the West Bank and Gaza has suffered a sustained attack by computer hackers, the Palestinian Authority (PA) says.

It says most of the Palestinian territory has lost internet service.

PA spokesman Ghassan Ghattib said the attacks started in the morning and came from multiple sources around the world.

He said he did not know if the hacking was linked to the Palestinian leadership's successful bid to get membership of Unesco on Monday.

The move by the UN's cultural and scientific organisation was strongly criticised by Israel and the United States.

The US immediately announced it was cutting off all of its funding to UN body.

Prolonged lack of access to the internet would prove costly to many Palestinian businesses.

The PA says the crash has been caused by computer hackers sabotaging the Paltel telephone network. Engineers are working to resolve the problem.

 

 

Also, the US is cutting off all funding of Palestine? Really US?

 

 

 


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Also, the US is cutting off all funding of Palestine? Really US?

  

The US has to cut off funding to UNESCO and any UN agency that recognizes a Palestinian state or any state that is not recognized internationally by law.

One law was passed under George H Bush about 1990 and the other under Bill Clinton in 1994. Obama has no choice but to cut the funding or he could be impeached for violating US law.

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pauljohntheskeptic wrote:

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

 

 

Also, the US is cutting off all funding of Palestine? Really US?

  

The US has to cut off funding to UNESCO and any UN agency that recognizes a Palestinian state or any state that is not recognized internationally by law.

One law was passed under George H Bush about 1990 and the other under Bill Clinton in 1994. Obama has no choice but to cut the funding or he could be impeached for violating US law.

 

 

 

What do you mean not regonized by international law? Their membership, by definition, regonizes them as a state by international law.

 

 

 

 

 


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Cpt_pineapple wrote:

pauljohntheskeptic wrote:

Cpt_pineapple wrote:

 

 

Also, the US is cutting off all funding of Palestine? Really US?

  

The US has to cut off funding to UNESCO and any UN agency that recognizes a Palestinian state or any state that is not recognized internationally by law.

One law was passed under George H Bush about 1990 and the other under Bill Clinton in 1994. Obama has no choice but to cut the funding or he could be impeached for violating US law.

 

 

 

What do you mean not regonized by international law? Their membership, by definition, regonizes them as a state by international law.

 

International law isn't so clear cut because the US does not recognize the UN as having authority over us. So "international law" is really nothing other than what we agree it is and only applies in our dealings with states that we recognize as states. If we decide that we aren't going to recognize Palestine as a state, there is no one who can make us. 

 

But I think the real question we should be asking is why we were paying UNESCO $80 million per year. In total we are giving the UN $6 billion per year, more than anyone else. What are we getting in return that is so valuable? 

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pauljohntheskeptic wrote:
Cpt_pineapple wrote:
Also, the US is cutting off all funding of Palestine? Really US?

The US has to cut off funding to UNESCO and any UN agency that recognizes a Palestinian state or any state that is not recognized internationally by law.

The Palestine authority is recognized as the lawful government of all the West Bank including Jerusalem and Gaza by 104 other states. That is opposed to 86 including the US which recognize the current, separatist government of Bosnia.

There is no international law determining what constitutes the government of a state.

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One law was passed under George H Bush about 1990 and the other under Bill Clinton in 1994. Obama has no choice but to cut the funding or he could be impeached for violating US law.

False of course. The PA performs all the functions of the government of a state. The US law does not apply to joining UNESCO.

 

 

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Beyond Saving wrote:
International law isn't so clear cut because the US does not recognize the UN as having authority over us. So "international law" is really nothing other than what we agree it is and only applies in our dealings with states that we recognize as states. If we decide that we aren't going to recognize Palestine as a state, there is no one who can make us.

As there is no international law regarding what constitutes a government of a state the issue is moot.

And the issue is always and only the recognition of the government NOT the state itself. Before 1948 the US recognized the local government of Palestine as the legitimate government of Palestine despite the ziononsense that it was never a state.

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But I think the real question we should be asking is why we were paying UNESCO $80 million per year. In total we are giving the UN $6 billion per year, more than anyone else. What are we getting in return that is so valuable? 

A platform to display the fact it is an international ass?

On the other hand, the US was the moving force behind the creation of the UN to supersede the League of Nations. The UN functions the way the US desired it to function at the time of its founding. The US wanted dues to be assessed rather than apportioned to as to include all the pissant states that jumped onto the war time United Nations after the D-Day landing broke out of the beach.

Domestically it is a Republican issue. They hate both Social Security and the UN because FDR/Truman/Democrats initiated them. The actual benefit or not to the US is not relevant to the dislike as a matter of Republican party policy.

As to the recognition issue, the US has always been a late-comer to change. It took 15 years to recognize the Bolshevik government of Russia and 25 years to recognize the communist government of China. It still has not recognized the current government of Cuba.

Obviously recognition of a government is immaterial to the existence of a government.

For example Britain did not recognize the terrorist government of Israel until 1953.

 

Jews stole the land. The owners want it back. That is all anyone needs to know about Israel. That is all there is to know about Israel.

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