Nice way to parody Christianity

you aren't as enlightened as you need be. Not to worry, the Guradians have arrived. We know.  Be ready to be wrong.  Old Seer

You're entering a scientific bunch of guys. The first thing you need to know is that (according to my observations) Atheists developed out of evidence that "somebody is wrong". Then the 2nd is the evidence of the horrible record of suffering  and death of many peoples over the centuries brought on by religious authorities. This is what happens when people follow people blindly. The power of any leader is derived only from those that follow. Take away the followers and a leader is nothing. It is the followers that make a leader something. It is the leaders that are faulty, and if the leaders is faulty it transfers to the followers. Consider (from the book) as it has been said, as Nimrod a mighty hunter before the lord. Try  this translation of "hunter'" equals "predator" Nimrod, the leader. As it has been said-The people are saying that they became as Nimrod. Nimrod deceives the people into his idea of things, after that they enter into a system of being predators, like Nimrod himself. The Babylonians were known for their business dealing. Business is a system of predation.

I bring this up to show the effects of leaders. Leaders of religions and governments (same things) must lead by deception. It doesn't work any other way. That's why polotitians are always lieing, Once the initial lie creates the follows the lie is established and must be carried forward or the government collapses. The malfuction of the world is because the leaders keep it that way. After a while the new leaders do not realize that they operate under a lie, the times past are forgotten. Then the lie becomes the truth. everyone moves forward through time unaware that they're deceived.

Understand that I am not a Theist, Deist or Atheist. Ok, lets see whatcha got.

1. quite arguing. they don't want anyone's argument. Tell them what you got. But be understanding they may know the bible better then you if you want to bring up bible stuff. If they slander or insult you they invite argument. Go for it. You'd better be packing the proper side arm or you'll get shot to pieces.

2- Get off the hell thing, they don't care. They believe they'll all die someday so hell won't rate. Are you sure you have a proper understanding of hell. If you mean everlasting hell (no resurrection), don't bet on it. I know an Atheist whom I consider a better Christian  then the average Christian.

3- Of course they have a bunch of theories. Science works off theories. Theories are just the start of an investigation or research.

4- No, those theories they are not from Satan, Satan is deception, These guys are not deceived when it comes to the material sciences. They may be (we say they are or may be) deceived as to what man is. That goes for you too. But, it may be that they aren't deceived they just don't know.

5- Louder won't chip ice. Yelling only causes the ears to close

6- From your perspective they do sound stupid, but they're not. They deal in material study. What's found in rocks can be found in one's body.

7- I don't want to hurt your feelings but the earth does go around the sun. Now that could be a project of scientific study for you. There's no dome around the planet. There are detection devices that would confirm that. Satalites have gone all the way to mars---no dome. Sorry about that

8- Now hold on--- if they don't accept the biblical truth let that be their problem, They can handle it. It's not your job nor mine to save anyone. Its you job to say and tell. let them decide. It's not your responsibility to convince anyone.

9- On the eye thing Darwin could be wrong. I knew Einstien was wrong on some things when I was in the 9th grade. I was right.

10- Atheists are no more wicked then anyone else. It's not wise to play God unless you understand how you yourself are one. Judgment day comes sometime after today. There's a lot of snags one can get caught on by self righteousness.

11- Woah there- Don't do the hell thing, there's plenty of time for people to make decisions.

12- What's  agreed upon may not be true no matter how much time has passed. Keep in mind there was a deceiver loose on the planet a while back and is still around. And those who are given to make determinations for the people may have also been deceived. The evidence shows they are.

13- No-the burden of proof is not on the Atheist. If you came here the proof is on you. However, if anyone makes a flat statement of what they consider  an absolute the burden of that absolute is on them. If someone says a passage in the book is hooey, the burden of proof transfers to them. If someone says the whole bible is hooey, they have a lot of reading and study ahead of them. If you say their science is hooey you've got a lot of reading and study ahead of you. But not to fear, someone's have already done all that. Be patient.

Too bad too. The other one is the funnier of the two. In my opinion at least.

Now try the other option. Human ppfffft. get real.

 Was thinking the same thing.  He must not get it.

The OP's problem has been resolved.

Now the OP has (at the very least ) one other serious problem.

He still thinks there's a god, but can't find a way to know if he's wrong and wasting his life away hoping there is.

Apparently, stupidity loves company just as much as misery does...

I don't argue with people about whether there is a God or not. In the end I think this just causes tensions and pushes them away from religion if anything. I have rational conversations with people sometimes, no bible bashing is necessary, just your logical thoughts on religion and theirs. If they don't believe in God then yelling at the top of your lungs you're going to hell is going to end up making you look like a nut, and it really makes all Christians look like ignorant fools.

But anyway. My biggest case for there being A GOD is that science doesn't really disprove there being a religion. It can contradict the bible if you believe the bible is literal. If you think that not everything in the bible is supposed to be taken literally it doesn't disprove it at all. And do we really expect these guys to begin explaining how god created us through evolution beginning with single celled organisms?

Science tells us that no matter can be created or destroyed. Science tells us a big ball of matter was spinning around and got really hot and exploded creating the universe. What created the ball? Why'd it start spinning? Not sure if this is exactly what the science is, can't remember 8th grade science that well. Why don't you ask the atheists who created matter and the universe when science says no matter can be created or destroyed? At least you believe God did. Stupid to look down on people who believe in God when you offer no explanation.

...what's stupid is to insert magic to explain a process which hasn't been explained yet. It's effectively the same thing as a cave man thinking the sky is angry at him because a thunderstorm rolled through. From his perspective there was no way to know a storm is essentially just friction between warm and cold air.

You decide whether you believe it is to be literal or not yourself. People shouldn't be forced to think anything. How does any interpretation being valid reduce the christian faith's validity to nothing? I believe there is a lot of wisdom in the bible. However I think it has probably been tampered with quite a bit over time, possibly some false prophets in there? Maybe some books that should've been included were left out? And I don't really believe the Vatican to be all that great of an organization. But that doesn't make me think the whole thing is necessarily a lie. Whether Christianity is the religion or not I don't know.

How is this new matter created? What created these laws? They make themselves? I'm just saying that complete nothingness turning into something as simple as a grain of dirt sounds pretty crazy let alone a whole universe that goes as far to support life. To me it takes just as much faith to believe that as it does to believe in a god. Either way you're believing in something you don't fully understand and cannot really be sure of.

Why do you recommend I look up the big bang theory? Was my brief statement about it inaccurate?

Do you believe in a god? Yes or no.

Because you're ignorant.

Ah, good guess. Of course it was. Physics is tough though. I doubt you even understand natural selection, so you should start with that first.

...someone else can give you the name of the hypothesis, it isn't coming to me at the moment. But in laymans terms it effectively is the tearing of nothing into two parts: matter and antimatter. When combined, they annihilate each other (and there is nothing again).
If the net mass of the universe is zero, then this would adequately explain the creation of matter, and concurrently the creation of antimatter.

We don't know they were created, so presuming they were created is fallacious.

And an uncaused cause in nothingness makes more sense? Don't you see how you're just adding another process? One way or another the universe came to be. How about we figure that part out before proposing extra equations?