BS, I just got the first over 50 shekel match.  I don't know if he would want his name out.  I'm extremely grateful for his $2,000 donation.  

Now on to get smaller donors of up to $340.79!  Plus two more donors of over $340.79!  

Please chip in right now folks, your donations will be matched!  

Great challenge, Beyond. That's hilarious. Would have been extra funny if it was a 30 shekel challenge, but 50 is awesome anyway.

We are getting amazing support. I'm blown away. Your challenge is another confirmation that we must be doing something people see as worthy of support. I sure think so, but it's always good to get validation from reality.

I'm so glad Brian has found his mojo again. It's really great to see the RRS core member (formerly plural; c'est la vie) back in action, and I'm also really excited about this Atheism United thing. The people at the Atheism United Head Quarters are stand-up folks and it's a very impressive roster of activists. I can't wait to see how far this thing goes, like a year from now. I'm feeling like it's going to be epic.

Thanks again, man!

 Now you're getting the effect you hoped for Beyond Saving.  Several donations coming in because the donation is being matched.  

Donations tonight have been the following amounts...

$10 
$10 
$50 
$25
$10

Thanks to everyone who has donated.  Please consider donating before this matching opportunity ends 3 days from now.

Cool. + the other $20 makes $125.

That's ₪18!

(₪ is the symbol for the shekel; wiki.  $ / 6.8158 = ₪ )

I tried posting to this thread before, but either the post was eaten or deleted.

Are you =building= a server, or buying one?  I'm your basically broke small business owner, so I has no monies.

I do, however, have new-in-the-box parts for servers that were never, ever built.

And before anyone questions my motives, y'all at least talk about science in the real talking-about-science sense.  I think I read about more recent scientific discoveries =here= than any other forum I frequent.

 Thanks so much for inspiring some extra donations Beyond.  That made a difference.  

The Dell server we wanted to get at the low end of the price range no longer has all the options we need.  It's almost out of it's life cycle.  We hope they'll replace it with a similarly priced unit.  If not, we'll be closer to the $6,500 range.  Thankfully we have a lot of people that want to help.  Based on the support so far I can see us getting near there.  That would be a big relief.  

I'd like to thank Beyond. As he says, ideologies here vary wildly, and we have little to agree on politically or economically. But we do agree that theism is fundamentally flawed, and I would be a fool to discard or ignore the significant financial support he's given directly and indirectly over the years.

Thank you.

That's weird. I even clicked the box to send me a copy of the PM to you, and I just checked my inbox and there's nothing there.

I'll try again to PM you.

That much money buys one heck of a lot of server.

But I think you answered my question -- you're buying, not building.  Which changes the cost equation.  I've not paid someone else to buy me a server in a decade or more.

I do have some rack mount gear -- KVM, switch, dumb PDU, etc. -- that could be dropped in the mail.  It's that or try to sell it on Craig's list -- the guy who colo's my company server hasn't made an offer and I'm tired of waiting =and= tired of storing.  If your buying a rack mountable rig and need stuff that's 19" wide and has ears, lemme know.

Thanks Vastet, and that is why I stick around because even though I might get to the point with you or Brian37 or anyone else where we basically tell each other to fuck off and call each other dumb asses- at least in the end we can find some common ground and disagreements are driven by philosophical differences rather than personal feelings. While the chances of us persuading each other are probably slim to none, I think our discussions can be very educational for all the lurkers out there who might not have thought about the issues at hand as much as we have.

Really, I don't think there is another site on the web where I can disagree so fundamentally with someone on one issue and find ourselves united on another. The "flame war" phenomena that is common on other forums is virtually non-existent here.  RRS seems unique in that the regular contributors are able to set aside personal emotions when arguing about their beliefs be they religious or political and agreement/disagreement is made through thought out beliefs rather than high school type cliques. It is the environment that Sapient and the mod team has created that encourages people to actually think rather than simply follow others or repeat talking points that I am grateful for and support. No other forum has challenged my beliefs and forced me to analyze/explain them as much as this one has and my understanding and ability to explain what I believe has increased dramatically in the 4 years since I joined.

Seriously, ignore anything I said 4 years ago, I was a broke young punk who didn't give a shit about anyone other than myself. 

Too big to quote, but I second those two posts whole-heartedly.

It's genuine -- I'm colo'ing a server about 15 miles south of here and don't need any of my rack mount gear.  Even the rack has been disassembled and is stowed away.  That's how "don't need it anymore" things are.

Uh, check the list of Who's Who on the 501(c)(3) page who's link I can't get to because all I can see is your posting.  I have a copy of Infidel lying around the house somewhere.  You think I don't know about several of those people already?  You give some people too little credit.

Oh, great.

A society that is safe for Atheists is also a society that is safe for Theists who adhere to minority religions.  A society that is safe for one minority tends to be safe for other minorities.  Supporting =rational= thinking is ... rational.  It simply makes sense to support any cause which seeks to advance Humanity as a whole.

This is not rocket science.

From the photos I've seen of the "computer room" I got the impression they use deskside servers, not 19" rack mount gear.  There are easier ways to have a 24 port switch than some giant clunky rig -- Linksys has nice 8 port switches that are stackable.  And while I'm sure a rack-mount KVM is teh sweetness, dittos for reasons.

But, if he wants it, I'll see if I can find a box and drop it of at FedEx the next time I need to be there.  If he wants makes and models, he knows where the "Send PM" button is.

 We use rack gear, the server is at a co-lo.  We're considering it as an option, I might let you know about a possible PO Box address.  I'm leery of this, sorry.

 Furry, we don't need the equipment.  Thanks for the offer.

Don't.  Being able to do it is probably one of your best qualities.

"Different worldviews"?

No, not really.  Which is a large part of the problem -- "Us" versus "Them" mentality.  Difference is dominance -- dividing people into groups of "Us" and "Them" is essential to the construction of power-up / power-down relationships.

But it's all good.

How about focusing on what we =agree= on?  And how about agreeing to disagree on the rest?

The quote comes from a Radical Feminist writer who was talking about "sex" as the first and most fundamental difference.

Don't look now, but you're prescribing what other people should think or do ...

Let's get back to what I wrote earlier -- How about focusing on what we =agree= on?  And how about agreeing to disagree on the rest?  That's probably a much better approach and one less likely to involve one group of people telling another group what they should or shouldn't do.

This isn't a Suicide Hot Line.

Hope I cleared that up for you!

No, not at all.

But this is still NOT a  Suicide Hot Line, though the irony of being told not to work a Suicide Hot Line by someone who has images of things pointing guns to their head =is= rather amusing.

That said, let's not import our lover's quarrel to this thread.  Okay?

Yes, you have.

I don't mind scrapping when scrapping seems to be warranted.  It let's people know they can't just scream "You're an idiot for believing in G-d!" and get away with it.

But the end of the day, any group that wants to do something to make this a better rock to live on gets my support.  So this thread is NOT the place for scrapping.

Understood?

Beyond, I will bail from this thread now.