What is "free" about a free thinkers forum which imposes ideological apartheid?

A Berlin Wall...?

Do you delete posts restrospectively if someone (like ubuntuanyone) de-de-converts?

I never understood "The Beekman", "Heretics Hall", etc.

That other place banned me til December 21.

*sniff*

Waddayagonnado?

Anyway.........

Oh you mean the section where theists can't post?

If I say I want to talk to my mom alone, just because she lives in a retirement home with other people, am I discriminating against the other tenants in the building because we want to talk alone in her apartment?

Sometimes people want to talk alone without being disturbed. EVERYONE does that and that is not discrimination. Discrimination would be not allowing theists at the website at all.

When you go dine out are you allowed to cook the food yourself? If you go over to a friends house and they ask to talk to their wife in a separate room and ask you to wait in the living room, are they discriminating against you?

You are in this "house" and if I am not mistaken, you can still read those posts, so it is not like the site is hiding anything. You are still welcome to post in the other sections even on the topics we post in that section.

No discrimination, no wall. Just you taking it out of context.

Would I be welcome to disturb a church service as an atheist even if they welcomed me into the church?

I'd settle for a forum where the blunt Mod/Op Sword of Damocles wasnt used to intimidate theists into acting like obsequious groveling mutes who only speak when spoken to and have to always act like they are living on borrowed time.

If "you and your mom"  want to have a private conversation that's fair enough. But that discussion is in a somewhat different category to one in which you say..."my mom = anyone who is an atheist" and ..."my private conversation = internet"

The church welcomes theists and atheists and the rules are applied to both equally.

Sapient, we already had this discussion. I used the Theism as a mental disorder as an example. I`m all for spreading knowledge and science, and I don`t think I`m seeing that here. I already stated where I saw it. For example the religion as a mind virus topic if you want a more recent example.

I feel the atheist movement is moving in the wrong direction with theories such as the `God virus`or that religion is the cause of X conflict. Worst of all, they seem hesitant in providing peer reviewed papers on the subject, which I was rightly hounded for when I was Christian. It`s sending the wrong message. Christian need empirical peer reviewed papers for their claims, but we don`t. Christians can`t rely on intuition or personal experience, but we can.

I was more often in arguemnts with wonderist and BobSpence about providing evidence, that they seemed short on.

You know, I've been a member of the RRS since 2008.  A lot of shit went down that made me leave and it had a lot to do with some members and their views, their attitudes and their reception on what I had to say.  I disliked how this website was going, I got angry and I left.  Now that I'm back, I'm glad that I made the decision to return because things are starting to look up and big changes are afoot.  I will be a part of atheismunited and can't wait to see what unravels. 

For the record, I'm still not a big fan of Hamby as well as other members that don't really post here anymore, but that's in the past and that was a different time.  We learn, we grow and, more importantly, how to GROW UP.  Some more than others, I suppose.  I don't know a damn thing about you, Cpt_pineapple, other than that you seem to be the thorn in the side of RRS.  The only thing I can say to get you to understand why you're a social pariah around here is that you need to grow up; plain and simple.  You are on a website with a VAST ARRAY of differing opinions and the only thing you can do to protect yourself from being thrown against the wall is to be yourself, do not put up a false front, show a little respect to those that seem to know their fields of expertise, know when to just shut the fuck up and take your leave.  The less drama you cause around here, the more we can all move on, learn and proceed to get on with our plans to steamroll religion.  

The only thing false is your claim that I feel persecuted. My "complex" is about people who falsely accuse me of feeling persecuted.

I am (hopefully) on the same side as you insofar as being a supporter of anyone who thinks atheists should come out of the closet and talk to theists.  I support that cause for a different reason than you but "The Beekman" is a closet!

WAIT! Stop right there! Atheists pretending to be Christians - especially clergy - is a deadly poisonous topic. I'm going to do you a favor and pretend you didnt mention it.

You have obviously never been to a church bible study or heard of Northern Ireland.

Allowed to debate? I thought it was encouraged.

BTW, "preaching" is one of those nebulous terms which means different things to different ppl.

I've been warned about preaching many times but I always get out of jail because its not preaching if you are ANSWERING a question put to you by an atheist. Dont wanna be "preached" to? Simple. Dont ask..."why do you think that?" I very seldom initiate any Ops and I wouldnt have to defend my views about God if nobody ever challenged me to do so.

Thats a pretty big claim considering you dont know ALL the sites I know. (Unless youre psychic.) But I suppose a bit of generalisation about the unknown is fair enough every now and then. I mean who wants to be a logical fallacy nutzi 24/7...right? 

But I definitely applaud the sentiment about this place being "the most tolerant of dissent". I think a good motto is...treat others the way you would....err...well...you probably know what I mean. If you want to crash-test someone elses ideas, be ready and willing to let others defend them with equal tenacity and be prepared to have your own position contested as well.

Atheism is not automatically THE default true position. Atheology is open to critiques. You cant run to the ..."we're just harmless, neutral, non-stamp collectors" corner whenever it suits you. 

Banned atheists? Why?

Theist POES?

IT made no sense when you said it last time.  It makes less sense now.  You're grasping at straws to disagree.  

Let's clear this up though...

If an accomodationalist decides to confront me about confrontationalism then they become a hypocrite.

If a confrontationalist decides to confront an accomodationalist, this doesn't make them a hypocrite.

I don't want to talk about any of that.  Do you understand that?

Food for thought for Pineapple. OK, now I see. 

A 3 day time out is a GREAT idea.

Much more reasonable than Strike One -a week, Strike Two - a month, Strike Three - 6 months.

I was actually kidding about the paper cut / lemon juice. (Forgot to add the LOL)

I have been visiting AvT discussion fora since 1996 and I understand that some places are not for the faint-hearted.

But I dont think of myself as harsh....just not as soft as the chew toy some people expect.

I am certainly not an anti-atheist and my attitude toward every human being atheist, agnostic or theist of any type is pretty orthodox as far as Christian doctrine goes. Love your enemy. Treat ppl the way you want to be treated.

Liberty, equality, fraternity.

Libery - soul/free will

Equality - man is not god over another man

Fraternity/Sorority - we all have the same Father. 

What forum is LionIRC talking about and what does it have to do with this?

Go look at the "It works for me" thread. There the theist is making himself an obvious troll to the point that some have begged for the mods to do something. He's perfectly safe.

Having a place to vent is not the same as "intimidating theists" - as I'm sure you're aware by how cowed and intimidated you are posting here. 

 No JC, actually he's talking about how he was banned from another forum.  I think it was rationalskepticism.  I asked because I was starting to be able to see why he would be banned.  He's a naysayer, a negative, a pessimist, a devils advocate who seems to pick the most illogical positions to advocate for.

I'm not sure I know who you are after almost 4 years. Unlike many, most of my interaction with you has been positive or neutral.

Didn't waste my time as I just laughed my ass off at the threads. I never really thought they were real.

This site is not Facebook or Twitter, you don't have to share personal info. So don't. I personally don't care if you are a prude, a stuck up bitch, a lesbian, bi-sexual, a whore, a drunk or a librarian.

You can be a postive force with your knowledge in science.

You need to learn how to pick your battles. There are some posts on RRS that irritate me. I think about them before I type. Not everything needs my comments. Like you, I have pet peeves, but I try to be careful about how I go about fighting my battles.

If that's what you want, try to do it in a positive way. Right way or wrong way is subjective. Right to you may be wrong to me. You need to do this in a positive way discussing why what you think would have better results.

That does not mean that everyone or even anyone may agree with you. Cars come in many colors because people perceive their likes and dislikes from their own perspectives.

I recall you doing that as well. Did that work well? Probably not as you indicate.

Obviously if you went from a believer to an atheist something had an effect on you.

Hamby is his own person, and so are you. You are a Canadian, a conservative in Canada is a Liberal in the US pretty much. Be your own person.

Personally I don't get what you criticize. The only thing I really see is the idea that religion is a virus or a disease. Some people may think that, not all of us who post at RRS.

RRS is not an individual but is made up of individuals.

The other thing is peer reviewed research. Not everything has that. Many posters assert a lot of things. That obviously does not make them true. Learn when to back off. Express your view and walk away if you need to.

Unapologetic confrontalism is not always a good tactic. It can go boom in your face. Sometimes being fair minded and willing to listen to others views is warranted, even when they are in the "land of fantasy". Clearly they have reasons for being there, find out WTF they are and discuss them. This does not mean that either you or they will change your views, but you are playing to an audience out there as well, keep that in mind.

Getting rid of religion would be a great goal, but it's been around since man 1st saw lightning and heard thunder and decided a god did it.

You and I am God as You were some of the first posters I encountered here years ago.  You were the 1st one to be snarky at Paisley. Granted you were a believer then.

In 2008 you had a guessing game if you were male or female, kind of an immature thing to do. But games are games.

OTOH, you do have a lot of knowledge in the science and physics area. Concentrate on your strengths and stop playing games.

I think you should do an introduction thread to indicate who Cpt Pineapple is today, as you clearly are not a drunk grad student in Canada. You are something else.

Thanks Brian.

Sounds like a good idea.

 Not sure yet.

Testable explanations: Yes!

Christians say no.

You naysayer, you.

Your curiosity piqued mine, so I dug. A brief look turned up run ins with Darth Josh, Kevin Brown, and DamnDirtyApe. With some of them being assholes without justification.

But then Kevin was born an asshole, so that's not a surprise.

Far as I know he just hangs his hat elsewhere like Hamby. Made an appearance to comment on Hitchen's death, but that's all he's done here in a year or more, to my knowledge.