Understanding Atheist philosophy .
Posted on: January 14, 2012 - 10:53am
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Understanding Atheist philosophy .
Does the atheist believe in Good and Evil?
I was talking to my friend, a Female Atheist, that did not
Believe in good or evil. When I asked her to
Explain, she did not know how to.
appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence for a no God.
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Not really. Besides, in light of such countering influences as human conceit, what are the odds of such a book ever making any significant sales ?
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Here is a question that you have ignored , .......WHERE DID EVIL ORIGINATE ?
In the bigining God created his Angels with frewill and set up his rules and regulations. One of his angels was Lucifer , created in beauty and had
Everything he needed for God provided everything. Similar to the
Garden of Eden and Adam and eve. Lucifer rebeled against God and manipulated 1/3 of the angels in heaven. He Also manipulated Adam and Eve in the Garden. Original sin originated with Lucifer by his choice in freewill. Read Isaiah , for the complete story.
Now please answer my questions.
appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence for a no God.
Ah, yes free will again.
You still don't see a pattern here do you ? Free will .....even in Heaven.... is the spark that lights the fire of sin and disobedience.
You said yourself that free will is the same in Heaven as it is on Earth. Yes, and even Lucifer proved that to be true by sinning in Heaven. There was no evil in Heaven that somehow influenced Lucifer, Lucifer wasn't tricked by some evil being. He wasn't motivated by a sin nature. His disobedience, his SIN, simply came from his ability to CHOOSE.
For better or worse, Lucifer truly possessed free will in Heaven. He made his choice and suffered the consequences because he was allowed the freedom to choose even if the choice was wrong. You on the other hand with all your "bond servant" crap and how you can't choose to sin in Heaven still claim to have free will. It isn't free will if you aren't allowed to choose as you please.
You are content with a perverted definition of free will, which isn't free will at all, ( except within your mind ) and you deflect your slave status by changing the term to "bond servant" which changes nothing.
Slave, bond servant, ......you still wish to exist In Heaven with a leash around your neck. Only a fool ( that's you ) would actually seek to live in servitude.
I haven't the patience for your intellectually crippled reasoning any longer. Our dialog is concluded.
This depends on whether or not this good and evil to which you refer is absolute, or subjective. I will never pretend to speak for atheists as a whole, for we come in many colors. Personally, I follow a strict moral code according to what I believe is right or wrong. I have accepted the fact that there simply is no god to hand down his version of what is right and what is wrong. Once I accepted this, there is no other guideline other than personal, and social opinion. For example, my natural tendency to preserve the life of others of my species tells me that it is immoral to kill, however, perhaps contradictory to some social opinion, I feel there is nothing at all wrong with homosexuality. How could there be? We must simply trust in ourselves to make moral decisions. A second example, is that there are some that believe it is their moral and divine duty to strap bombs to their chests, walk into a crowded room, and detonate that son-bitch. I think this is wrong, so it is my duty to prosecute and denounce those that do, but i certainly have NO right to tell him that it IS immoral, only that I feel it is, and to act accordingly. Morality is a subjective concept that, like everything else, is under the fluid motion of evolution. Do I believe in right and wrong? Sort of, but not in the chiseled-in-stone sense that most theists entertain.
Once you rid yourself of your imaginary friend, you will be given your first real opportunity to act rationally and of your own accord, as well as observe and analyze the real world accurately.
I'd buy a copy or two. Besides... I haven't felt this good in years!
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But you say hell is eternal seperation from God. Satan/Lucifer is in hell and he still has conversations with God(Genesis, Job). How is that possible?
Why if Satan is in hell and he knows how horrible it is does he keep on sinning against God? He knows he can't win right? Or is Satan an idiot/masochist? How is Satan being punished if God is letting him doing what he enjoys i.e. tempting humans into sin?
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Evil is a man made concept. Without man there is no evil, so evil does not exist beyond man. Prove evil exist in the absence of man...
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Evil is a man made concept. Without man there is no evil, so evil does not exist beyond man. Prove evil exist in the absence of man...
Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer. - William S. Burroughs
You said,
You are content with a perverted definition of free will, which isn't free will at all, ( except within your mind ) and you deflect your slave status by changing the term to "bond servant" which changes nothing.
Slave, bond servant, ......you still wish to exist In Heaven with a leash around your neck. Only a fool ( that's you ) would actually seek to live in servitude.
The word slave in the bible is translated bond servant in the original Greek language . I did not create the word bond servant, the author of the New testament did.
I choose to be a bond servant exercising my freewill. You choose to not believe exercising your freewill. You have the right to your comments just as I have the right to my comments. I respect your comments because I respect freedom of speech and freewill. So let it be.
appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence for a no God.
You said,
Satan/Lucifer is in hell and he still has conversations with God(Genesis, Job). How is that possible?
That is because he is not in hell, but in the world, just like in Eden and in Job.
Hell is for him and his angels as written in the last part of the book of revelation .
What bible do you read?
appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence for a no God.
You said,
I feel there is nothing at all wrong with homosexuality. How could there be? We must simply trust in ourselves to make moral decisions.
Are you a homosexual?
You have a lot to say about what is Moral law.
You said,
Personally, I follow a strict moral code according to what I believe is right or wrong.
Do you believe in moral law?
appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence for a no God.