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What's it with the party and their rape comments lately? Do they really think that women, let alone anybody will actually vote for them?

 

 

 

 

 

 


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What's it with the party and their rape comments lately? Do they really think that women, let alone anybody will actually vote for them?

Well... they get plenty of votes, but that kind of nonsense won't help them out much I'd think, at least for the women's vote for sure.

As for the title of your thread... I think that is a bit of an insane sweeping generalization. A figure from a group doesn't represent the views of everyone in that group. I'm sure many (most, even) Republicans disagree with Akin's comment and whoever else you are talking about.

I understand, though, that these types of statements are very telling about the specific person's views, at least. Rather disturbing.

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What's it with the party and their rape comments lately? Do they really think that women, let alone anybody will actually vote for them?

Well... they get plenty of votes, but that kind of nonsense won't help them out much I'd think, at least for the women's vote for sure.

As for the title of your thread... I think that is a bit of an insane sweeping generalization. A figure from a group doesn't represent the views of everyone in that group. I'm sure many (most, even) Republicans disagree with Akin's comment and whoever else you are talking about.

I understand, though, that these types of statements are very telling about the specific person's views, at least. Rather disturbing.

 

People voted to make Romney the Republican nominee, so I guess a good number agree with him.

 

 

 

 


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What's it with the party and their rape comments lately? Do they really think that women, let alone anybody will actually vote for them?

Well... they get plenty of votes, but that kind of nonsense won't help them out much I'd think, at least for the women's vote for sure.

As for the title of your thread... I think that is a bit of an insane sweeping generalization. A figure from a group doesn't represent the views of everyone in that group. I'm sure many (most, even) Republicans disagree with Akin's comment and whoever else you are talking about.

I understand, though, that these types of statements are very telling about the specific person's views, at least. Rather disturbing.

 

People voted to make Romney the Republican nominee, so I guess a good number agree with him.

Has Romney belittled the seriousness of rape? (Honest question, I've never heard of anything like that.)

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As for the title of your thread... I think that is a bit of an insane sweeping generalization.

you haven't met cap before, have you?  she's not around near as much as she used to be.

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Has Romney belittled the seriousness of rape? (Honest question, I've never heard of anything like that.)

No he hasn't. Romney, along with virtually every other notable republican put significant pressure on Akin to step out of the race. Even all of the talk radio guys, Boortz, Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity all denounced Akin for his remarks and suggested that he should resign. Hardly the statements of people who agree. 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/mitt-romney-asks-todd-akin-quit-missouri-senate/story?id=17048232#.UDX-NdZmRWU

 

Romney's position on abortion has always been that it should be up to the states. Historically, he has declared himself pro-choice but since running for president has toned that down and spoken more about favoring overturning Roe vs. Wade to allow states to regulate abortion as they please. Ryan, on the other hand has always been very strongly pro-life and has said he would support a law that bans abortion even in the case of rape. So he agrees with Akin on policy, I am pretty sure he has never said anything so stupid as women can't get pregnant from being raped. 

The whole argument is irrelevant, since there is absolutely nothing anyone in federal government can do to ban abortion short of a constitutional amendment, and there is no where close to enough support for one. About the only thing they can control is the side issues such as whether or not to give federal funding to organizations like Planned Parenthood. 

 

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The whole argument is irrelevant, since there is absolutely nothing anyone in federal government can do to ban abortion short of a constitutional amendment, and there is no where close to enough support for one. About the only thing they can control is the side issues such as whether or not to give federal funding to organizations like Planned Parenthood. 

 

That's a pretty big fight going on in my state right now.

I know that I live within walking distance of the Memphis, Tennessee Planned Parenthood and everyday there are a few dozen protestors across the street.

It made the local news when they start haranguing people going inside Planned Parenthood and the law forced them to be so many feet away.

I am not sure if the state of Tennessee has voted to cut funding from Planned Parenthood as of yet, but this is also a major battle in the neighboring state of Mississippi ( Memphis, sits right on the border of Mississippi and Arkansas, I can be in either state within ten minutes).

Arkansas has remained somewhat quiet on the issue (at least it is not making any headlines in my local newspaper).

I think the latest battle has started in Texas, from what I saw.

I don't know about the battle in any of the other states.

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The whole argument is irrelevant, since there is absolutely nothing anyone in federal government can do to ban abortion short of a constitutional amendment, and there is no where close to enough support for one. About the only thing they can control is the side issues such as whether or not to give federal funding to organizations like Planned Parenthood. 

 

That's a pretty big fight going on in my state right now.

I know that I live within walking distance of the Memphis, Tennessee Planned Parenthood and everyday there are a few dozen protestors across the street.

It made the local news when they start haranguing people going inside Planned Parenthood and the law forced them to be so many feet away.

I am not sure if the state of Tennessee has voted to cut funding from Planned Parenthood as of yet, but this is also a major battle in the neighboring state of Mississippi ( Memphis, sits right on the border of Mississippi and Arkansas, I can be in either state within ten minutes).

Arkansas has remained somewhat quiet on the issue (at least it is not making any headlines in my local newspaper).

I think the latest battle has started in Texas, from what I saw.

I don't know about the battle in any of the other states.

Oklahoma keeps throwing out anti-contraceptive laws, maybe in the hopes one of them will get through and stop some contraceptive use.

I really don't understand this. You can't try to get rid of contraceptives AND abortion, since contraceptives are vital to lowering the number of abortions (not to mention all the other health benefits they provide for women in a nice little package). Abstinence only or trying to get people to wait until marriage (which not everyone even wants to do, with good reason) is absurd.

You can dislike abortion, hate it even. But it's education, wide access to contraceptives, and other women's healthcare that reduces the number of abortions, NOT banning them.

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What is pissing me off with all the Shmegma in Mouth disease the rethugican party is suffering from, how the hell Romney is still in the race at at all is beyond me, other than say the big money of  the Cock bros. Why are the polls so close? Are there really that many delusional voters willing to look beyond bat shit crazy?

But watching Rush come unglued was entertaining. And he completely exposed his egocentric attitude commenting about this senator that he alone could bury him. An unelected entertainer thinks he owns the world. Even the senator he was attacking got one thing right, that it scared him to think that his mind is owned by a party or that he had to bow to the wishes of one person. The republican party is more and more looking like Germany and it's loyalty oaths right before WW2.

The shame of it all is that the republican party was actually sane a long time ago and valued privacy rights and freedom of religion back then meant government was neutral. But they have become the American Taliban and anyone even within their own party who dares to dissent will be met with purging. Ann Coulter and Rush prove that in their reaction to this senator.

Whats more is that this party has long wanted abortion illegal in all contexts and wants us to go back to the days of back allies and coat hangers. Ryan's votes have supported constantly this push. So the puppet masters Rush and Ann are being exposed for the cons they are and the hypocrites and liers they are.

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As for the title of your thread... I think that is a bit of an insane sweeping generalization.

you haven't met cap before, have you?  she's not around near as much as she used to be.

 

So I always make insane sweeping generalizations?


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No he hasn't. Romney, along with virtually every other notable republican put significant pressure on Akin to step out of the race. Even all of the talk radio guys, Boortz, Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity all denounced Akin for his remarks and suggested that he should resign. Hardly the statements of people who agree. 

No, they are statements of people who agree to varying degrees.  What they were so upset about is that Akin is going to lose the seat for them.  If you pay attention to most of their comments, they are literally upset at this guy because they want him to step aside so they have a better chance at winning that seat and thus controlling the Senate, NOT because they disagree with his sentiment.  As to his actual statement, they danced around it.  Most called it stupid. but the fact of the matter is, that most pro-lifers have become more and more anti-women's rights to the point of making up facts about rape.  Just in the last month alone BEFORE Akin's dumbassery I had 2 separate Pro-life Rethuglicans tell me that 85% of rapes are FALSELY REPORTED!  I asked them where they got that "statistic"... Fox News, World Net Daily??  They wouldn't answer, but you know they got it from somewhere in the religious right propaganda machine.

Bottom line, Rush, Coulter, and Huckabee might not agree that women's bodies can shut out a pregnancy, but they do all agree with most of these twisted, fabricated pro-life lies about rape.  They agree FULLY with the man's sentiment, and where he's coming from if not the veracity of one "fact."   They have zero compassion for a woman having to raise and love a child with the face of their rapist.

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they are literally upset at this guy because they want him to step aside so they have a better chance at winning that seat and thus controlling the Senate, NOT because they disagree with his sentiment. 

As to his actual statement, they danced around it.

Romney said - “As I said yesterday, Todd Akin’s comments were offensive and wrong and he should very seriously consider what course would be in the best interest of our country.  Today, his fellow Missourians urged him to step aside, and I think he should accept their counsel and exit the Senate race.”-8-20-2012

He does not detail what part was wrong or offesive, it's up for interpretation.

Romney also said “His comments about rape were deeply offensive,” Romney said as VP candidate Paul Ryan shook his head in agreement, “And I can’t defend what he said. I can’t defend him.” 8-20-2012

My take is Romney and Ryan find it offesive that Akin reopened the issue of "Republicans don't care about women" and that is what he thinks is wrong and offensive. The Rethug party has many crazies, I think Romney wants them to learn to keep the fuck quiet right now so he doesn't lose. It's not that Romney and Ryan especially would support any abortion, it's they want to gain control of the government at any cost.

After all, the Rethug platform once again will include a call for a Constitutional amendment to ban all abortions. And both Romney and Ryan support that.

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Right pauljohn.  Let's not

Right pauljohn.  Let's not forget, Romney is a Mormon, and Ryan Co-sponsored a no-abortion-no-exceptions bill, so we both know where they stand on women's rights.  Not to mention if I'm not mistaken they've both voted for insane legislation that makes it harder to get contraception, which is fully retarded given their stance on abortion.  

When Romney got Dr. John Willke's endorsement (the "Dr." who wrote the book that Akin got his bat-shit crazy ideas about rape from) for his campaign in 2007 Romney put out a statement GUSHING about how he was sooo proud to have the support of such a strong pro-life advocate.  He truly made it seem like he was completely aware of Dr. Willke's stance, and he was thrilled to have the endorsement of one of the pro-life movement's guru Doctors.

Not to gloss over the whole Mormon thing either.  Mormons literally treat women like second class citizens.  They are to be seen and not heard.  If they have questions at church, they are to wait and ask their husband what their opinion should be when they get home.  I can't stress enough how creepy their attitude towards women is, and how subservient the women act.  These are not the ultra crazy polygamist churches I'm talking about either.  I personally know women who have been to Utah, and sat in these average Mormon churches, only to be creeped out for life with what they saw.  Make no mistake about it, men that are this misogynistic, and have this extreme of a patriarchal view of women see rape in a very skewed way.

A perfect example of this is a quote that's been brought back up since this all started, by Claytie Williams back in the 1990 gubernatorial race in Texas when he said "if it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it"  I mean what-the-fuck is with these guys????  I remember hearing that quote as a teenage kid and hoping that he went to prison and got raped, so he had the opportunity to see what it's like to "lie back and enjoy it."

 

 

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What is pissing me off with all the Shmegma in Mouth disease the rethugican party is suffering from, how the hell Romney is still in the race at at all is beyond me, other than say the big money of  the Cock bros. Why are the polls so close? Are there really that many delusional voters willing to look beyond bat shit crazy?

Are you living in the same economy the rest of us are? When the economy is crap people support the opposition party regardless of whether or not there is any evidence the opposition will actually do anything different/better and regardless of any extremist positions they may hold. That is how Obama got elected in the first place, and it is how Romney will get elected this year. If only Americans would get smart enough to start voting third party.

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What is pissing me off with all the Shmegma in Mouth disease the rethugican party is suffering from, how the hell Romney is still in the race at at all is beyond me, other than say the big money of  the Cock bros. Why are the polls so close? Are there really that many delusional voters willing to look beyond bat shit crazy?

Are you living in the same economy the rest of us are? When the economy is crap people support the opposition party regardless of whether or not there is any evidence the opposition will actually do anything different/better and regardless of any extremist positions they may hold. That is how Obama got elected in the first place, and it is how Romney will get elected this year. If only Americans would get smart enough to start voting third party.

I agree that people should vote third party. I'm unimpressed with either of the two big ones in recent history. I'm actually really uncomfortable with Romney winning, what with his VP and his own baggage. Sadly, I can't vote yet (17).

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What is pissing me off with all the Shmegma in Mouth disease the rethugican party is suffering from, how the hell Romney is still in the race at at all is beyond me, other than say the big money of  the Cock bros. Why are the polls so close? Are there really that many delusional voters willing to look beyond bat shit crazy?

Are you living in the same economy the rest of us are? When the economy is crap people support the opposition party regardless of whether or not there is any evidence the opposition will actually do anything different/better and regardless of any extremist positions they may hold. That is how Obama got elected in the first place, and it is how Romney will get elected this year. If only Americans would get smart enough to start voting third party.

I am living in the same economy and I agree it IS CRAP. But you are the fucking dip shit at the hotel who blames the employee for the patron  who decided to wreck the hotel room and blame the guy who merely wants to clean it up.

Tell your fucking corporate fuck buddies that we don't mind orgies and if you get a nut off in doing such fine, my only problem with you is your own  denial that anyone outside your class is nothing but a loser.

 

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I agree that people should vote third party. 

  Yes, but voting third party amounts to only a gesture, a statement of principal that is completely empty of influence because third parties are effectively shut out of the process ( unless you have billions of dollars to spend. )  I used to be a card-carrying Libertarian.  Well the Libertarian party has been around since 1971 and they are still considered a joke because they can barely get themselves elected to a school board even after all these years.


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I am living in the same economy and I agree it IS CRAP. But you are the fucking dip shit at the hotel who blames the employee for the patron  who decided to wreck the hotel room and blame the guy who merely wants to clean it up.

Is there any evidence that Bama has done anything to clean it up? Exactly what policy has Bama implemented that is different from W? W had a stimulus, Bama had a bigger one, W bailed out companies- Bama bailed out more, the fed under W pursued a low interest rate policy- the fed under Bama is pursuing a low interest rate policy, W got his tax cuts- Bama kept them, W started wars- Bama has kept us in them and got us involved in Libya, W ran huge deficits- Bama made them even bigger, W increased the size of medicare- Bama passed Bamacare. Exactly wtf has Bama even proposed that is different from everything W did? Get your head out of "my guy is better than the other guy" mode and tell me what policies are different. How has he cleaned anything up?

The only potential we have of any positive steps is that an agreement is not reached on the budget and the mandatory cuts and tax increases go into effect. It will most likely put us into another short recession, but we are running on such an artificial market I think another recession will be necessary to straighten it out. Hopefully when we go through the second recession the government doesn't interfere again to the extent they have so far, but I'm not holding my breath. Most likely some deal that does nothing will be agreed to by both parties and if not they will probably run to bail out their wallstreet buddies creating yet another government supported artificial market.

  

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I agree that people should vote third party. 

  Yes, but voting third party amounts to only a gesture, a statement of principal that is completely empty of influence because third parties are effectively shut out of the process ( unless you have billions of dollars to spend. )  I used to be a card-carrying Libertarian.  Well the Libertarian party has been around since 1971 and they are still considered a joke because they can barely get themselves elected to a school board even after all these years.

True, but at least you don't feel like you need to shower after voting. I have basically given up on the country at large and now just vote for my personal satisfaction. If and when a third party candidate starts looking like they are serious and have a real chance I might dust off my political gloves and get involved in a campaign again. 

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Vote for a third party and

Vote for a third party and you flush away your vote and chance to actually contribute to society.

 

 

 


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What's it with the party and their rape comments lately? Do they really think that women, let alone anybody will actually vote for them?

It's to get even with the Democrats for trying to turn women in whores. Paying for women that have babies or paying for contraception and abortion. For Dems, women that have sex get a lot more free stuff from the government than those that don't.

Politics is like religion(and pimping), they see controlling women's sexuality as a source of power and wealth. Dems not any better than Repubs.

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Vote for a third party and you flush away your vote and chance to actually contribute to society.

I see no inherent benefit in contributing negatively to society for the sake of contributing. Society would be much better if there weren't so many people contributing without considering whether or not their contributions are positive. 

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What's it with the party and their rape comments lately? Do they really think that women, let alone anybody will actually vote for them?

It's to get even with the Democrats for trying to turn women in whores. Paying for women that have babies or paying for contraception and abortion. For Dems, women that have sex get a lot more free stuff from the government than those that don't.

Politics is like religion(and pimping), they see controlling women's sexuality as a source of power and wealth. Dems not any better than Repubs.

 

I don't know, Republican women can be pretty big whores too.

 

 

 


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Vote for a third party and you flush away your vote and chance to actually contribute to society.

 

 

 

When you have a choice between a douche and a turd, choose a third option.

It is this mentality that makes third-party votes more seem pointless. If no one thinks their third-party vote will matter than no one will vote. If no one votes no one thinks their vote matters.

If we can get a decent third-party campaign going, one of the big guys will probably change policy to absorb it, so at least something gets done.

It's hard to contribute to society if you are voting for the lesser of two evils. Vote for the third not evil at all guy. You might scare a policy change into one of the big guys.

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When you have a choice between a douche and a turd, choose a third option.

It is this mentality that makes third-party votes more seem pointless. If no one thinks their third-party vote will matter than no one will vote. If no one votes no one thinks their vote matters.

If we can get a decent third-party campaign going, one of the big guys will probably change policy to absorb it, so at least something gets done.

It's hard to contribute to society if you are voting for the lesser of two evils. Vote for the third not evil at all guy. You might scare a policy change into one of the big guys.

 

Why would I want somebody like Gary Johnson in? Who is he in the first place and why should I give him the time of day let a lone a vote?

 

I'm so anti-mainstream dude

 

 

 


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I don't know, Republican women can be pretty big whores too.

For example? Usually they're trying to protect their wealth not earn it.

 

Maybe a good Lefty like you can explain something to me, that I just can't grasp.

If the Republicans have their way, a woman would be fined for having an abortion. So some women would choose not to have an abortion because of this fine(Republican women could afford the fine of course). This then is pure evil because government is interfering with a woman's choice.

But if the Democrats have their way, a woman is given all kind of free benefits for having a baby. So some women choose to have a baby because of these benefits. This then is good even thought government is interfering with a woman's choice.

My male misogynist mind just can't understand this. Because to me it seems government interference in a woman's choice is only good if it is something a leftist woman wants, otherwise it is evil. Can you please help me understand this?

 

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Vote for a third party and you flush away your vote and chance to actually contribute to society.

I see no inherent benefit in contributing negatively to society for the sake of contributing. Society would be much better if there weren't so many people contributing without considering whether or not their contributions are positive. 

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Vote for a third party and you flush away your vote and chance to actually contribute to society.

 

observation but there is a caveat. Here in Oz we have 2 major political parties, the Liberals (Conservatives) and Labor (arguably Social Democrats). The libs have a long alliance with the National Party and the Fishers and Shooters Party (ultra conservative people from the bush) while Labor is allied with the Greens. Outside these dominant power blocks there's really no option and all the smaller parties hand their preferences to the major groups along predetermined lines.

Having said that, back in the 80s the Greens used to be well out on the fringe but as attitudes changed, mostly in the big cities, their third party vote simply got so big they could no longer be ignored. Our recent carbon tax was definitely due to Green pressure on the ruling Labor party. 

Interestingly, here in Australia the political landscape is extremely polarized and the rhetoric venomous. The conservatives just get more conservative and more skeptical about climate change (but not about the existence of god or the homosexual conspiracy to destroy the marriage institution) while pretty much everything the PM does is howled down. She's even been mocked for having a fat arse. I doubt there's ever been such hatred for a prime minister in my lifetime.

From the slavering conservative talk, she's personally responsible for the global financial crisis. There have been some silly idealistic errors, mind you but that's what you get with the left. 

 

 

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Cpt_pineapple wrote:Vote for

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Vote for a third party and you flush away your vote and chance to actually contribute to society.

What if one considers both major parties to be turds that need to be flushed?

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What if one considers both major parties to be turds that need to be flushed?

   Then you're shit out of luck.


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When you have a choice between a douche and a turd, choose a third option.

It is this mentality that makes third-party votes more seem pointless. If no one thinks their third-party vote will matter than no one will vote. If no one votes no one thinks their vote matters.

If we can get a decent third-party campaign going, one of the big guys will probably change policy to absorb it, so at least something gets done.

It's hard to contribute to society if you are voting for the lesser of two evils. Vote for the third not evil at all guy. You might scare a policy change into one of the big guys.

 

Why would I want somebody like Gary Johnson in? Who is he in the first place and why should I give him the time of day let a lone a vote?

 

I'm so anti-mainstream dude

I don't know, why would you? I didn't mention anyone in particular.

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I don't know, Republican women can be pretty big whores too.

For example? Usually they're trying to protect their wealth not earn it.

 

Maybe a good Lefty like you can explain something to me, that I just can't grasp.

If the Republicans have their way, a woman would be fined for having an abortion. So some women would choose not to have an abortion because of this fine(Republican women could afford the fine of course). This then is pure evil because government is interfering with a woman's choice.

But if the Democrats have their way, a woman is given all kind of free benefits for having a baby. So some women choose to have a baby because of these benefits. This then is good even thought government is interfering with a woman's choice.

My male misogynist mind just can't understand this. Because to me it seems government interference in a woman's choice is only good if it is something a leftist woman wants, otherwise it is evil. Can you please help me understand this?

 

 

For fuck's sake, not abortion again.

 

 

 


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Maybe a good Lefty like you can explain something to me, that I just can't grasp.

 

lol, wow, i never thought i'd hear anyone call cap a lefty.  where do you get that?  i think you're goin' off half-cocked, exc.

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So I always make insane sweeping generalizations?

 

case in point.


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For fuck's sake, not abortion again.

You're the one that started this thread. The congressman made these comments to defend his position on abortion.

 

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For fuck's sake, not abortion again.

You're the one that started this thread. The congressman made these comments to defend his position on abortion.

 

 

I know, I want to talk about his rape comments, not his abortion comments. Also republican masturbation habits

 

 

 

 

 


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Maybe a good Lefty like you can explain something to me, that I just can't grasp.

 

lol, wow, i never thought i'd hear anyone call cap a lefty.  where do you get that?  i think you're goin' off half-cocked, exc.

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I don't know, Republican women can be pretty big whores too.

 

 

 

you ain't kiddin' there.  i think i only ever slept with one chick who was as liberal as me.  one of my best lays ever was a fundamentalist, texas-born bush-lover.

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Forcing women to have rape babies is a fairly extreme position. I'm sure it's difficult to defend. If it's part of their party platform someone had to try to justify it eventually and they just sacrificed that guy. He's like the Jesus, getting in trouble for what everybody else did.

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Cpt_pineapple wrote:Also

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Also republican masturbation habits

 

i imagine the whole thing being very gollum-esque, with a lot of hissing and nasally squealing, hunched over and constantly looking over their shoulders.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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iwbiek wrote:Cpt_pineapple

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Also republican masturbation habits

 

i imagine the whole thing being very gollum-esque, with a lot of hissing and nasally squealing, hunched over and constantly looking over their shoulders.

You guys are doing ridiculous generalizing but it's pretty funny all the same.

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I should say that most likely they use their right hand. Maybe that is why I never fit in with the republican party, I always favored my left hand. 

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 Also republican masturbation habits

I should say that most likely they use their right hand. Maybe that is why I never fit in with the republican party, I always favored my left hand. 

The left never works for me. I guess I must be a right-wing nut.

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This isn't to discuss your masturbation habits.

 

 

 


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 Also republican masturbation habits

I should say that most likely they use their right hand. Maybe that is why I never fit in with the republican party, I always favored my left hand. 

The left never works for me. I guess I must be a right-wing nut.

Never fear, I use my left, and I'm certainly not a right winger. Eye-wink

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Maybe a good Lefty like you can explain something to me, that I just can't grasp.

If the Republicans have their way, a woman would be fined for having an abortion. So some women would choose not to have an abortion because of this fine(Republican women could afford the fine of course). This then is pure evil because government is interfering with a woman's choice.

But if the Democrats have their way, a woman is given all kind of free benefits for having a baby. So some women choose to have a baby because of these benefits. This then is good even thought government is interfering with a woman's choice.

My male misogynist mind just can't understand this. Because to me it seems government interference in a woman's choice is only good if it is something a leftist woman wants, otherwise it is evil. Can you please help me understand this?

 

Let's review -

The cost of raising a child is roughly $10,000 a year. http://www.babycenter.com/cost-of-raising-child-calculator

Maximum food stamps (SNAP) - assume little or no income, 3 people in family - $526.  Yes, the amount you get goes up as the family size increases.  http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/applicant_recipients/eligibility.htm

TANF - Temporary Cash Assistance for Needy Families - http://www.tanf.us/  http://www.acf.hhs.gov/opa/fact_sheets/tanf_factsheet.html

There is a 60 month maximum LIFE TIME assistance.  That means after 5 years, no more money.  In some states, you may have 60 months as a child and another 60 months as an adult.  That still is not your entire childhood, let alone your entire life.  And, the head of household must be doing job training or looking for work and then going to work after the first two years of TANF assistance. 

The average amount of TANF benefits per household vary widely by state.  CA looks to be really high at $638 a month, South Carolina is only $216 a month.  http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3625

The amount of medical benefits you might receive varies greatly depending on the health of the family.  For some, one well child visit per year and vaccinations may be all the medical required.  It is true some families will have many thousands per month in health care costs.

However you add this up, the most generous benefits still barely cover the cost of raising that child for a year.  You are not making enough off of the benefits to go spend extravagantly.  If I wanted to party hearty, I would skip having children, get a job flipping burgers somewhere and plan to crash on someone's couch after the party. 

The benefits do not last forever.  The head of household is expected to get off their duff and go work.  Why you think this is some sort of halcyon living style I don't have a clue.  Also, please note that most women do not plan to get pregnant - 2/3 of all pregnancies for women in their 20s are unplanned.  http://www.livescience.com/19880-unplanned-pregnancy-young-women.html

I would think reducing funding for Planned Parenthood, 35% of their services are for contraception, would be the stupidest thing anyone serious about reducing social spending would want to have happen.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/what-planned-parenthood-actually-does/2011/04/06/AFhBPa2C_blog.html

 

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I should say that most likely they use their right hand. Maybe that is why I never fit in with the republican party, I always favored my left hand. 

The left never works for me. I guess I must be a right-wing nut.

Never fear, I use my left, and I'm certainly not a right winger. Eye-wink

Wonder what it is classified as when you alternate between the two ? Bi-partisanship maybe ?

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Wonder what it is classified as when you alternate between the two ? Bi-partisanship maybe ?

 

Ambidextrous

 

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This isn't to discuss your masturbation habits.

 

 

 

Are you sure? This thread is definitely about masturbation habits if the title is to be believed, I'd think our own habits might be relevant.

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This isn't to discuss your masturbation habits.

 

 

 

Are you sure? This thread is definitely about masturbation habits if the title is to be believed, I'd think our own habits might be relevant.

 

Considering you're online on a friday night, I assume that it's a frequent habit

 

 


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