Um ok, not sure what to make of this. While I do think big business in general can be abusive say like copy write on "Happy Birthday" which is absurd, not sure what you are implying on this. If I discover a new insect or new "earth like" planet, should I not get credit for it?

There is always a danger with new technology. Just like cars for a long time were dangerous the regulations improved their safety standards. Just like justifications for war, we do see where lack of questioning can lead, so while it is right to say keep an eye on it, DNA and stem cell technology should not be thrown completely out over any potential monopoly concerns. Anything can go off the rails when it is left to it's own devices.

If this passes in any sense of the word, their will be a full scale riot. People will die by the millions. World War Z will look like a Saturday afternoon paint gun party.

The idea that they hold some kind of patent on human genome is fucking bullshit.

 Yeah, the Supreme Court case is Association for Molecular Pathology vs. Myriad Genetics and is set to be argued on April 15th. 

http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/association-for-molecular-pathology-v-myriad-genetics-inc/

It is definitely one of the cases I will be keeping an eye on. While I think it is arguable that they can patent the precise technique of DNA testing used (and the tools used in DNA testing) I think the court will rule that the actual gene itself is a product of nature and therefore cannot be patented. 

But, you can always claim your parents and grandparents as 'prior art'.

Awesome! Thanks for the update!

Sounds like a spit decision. I am for patient rights, but I am not for them to the point that it becomes basically hoarding. If you do something, you deserve credit. But there is always a point where once what you do is out, people will want to add to or improve on what you did, not to mention after a long enough period of time, if what you do is  big enough, it becomes public property because it is part of history, not simply a local unknown who never gets noticed.

Right, otherwise if the first person who invented pizza had absolute power  there would only be one pizza chain and all others would be subject to it's whims if we wanted pizza.

I am for competition, but less so in health care. Rich and poor will always get sick at some point. I don't mind getting credit for a a medicine or a procedure, but if it is about humanity, then the pay off is for humanity and if all you get is name recognition, you are a hero to all of humanity, not a greedy fuck out to make a buck.

Tell me, if you are as well off as you claim, what if even with what you make, if  the only doctor you could go to wanted something you could not afford? Wouldn't you want a doctor to be more concerned with life than their own greed? I'd say if you are willing to pay anything to stay well, the likes of your mindset miss the compassion that humans should have. If life is the only one we get, then health care should NOT be held hostage by profit.

Life is not quantified by balance sheets or ability to pay. Otherwise you'd be completely justified in genocide on all poor people in the world.

HA,  sounds nice. "If I pay them they will be held accountable." HA YOU FUCKING MORON. That is a utopia and exactly how scams work. How do you think Madoff got away with what he did, idiots like you who think money is the only thing important in life. He convinced people to part with their money. Just like god believers get convinced to part with their brains.

BULLSHIT, we've butted heads for a long time. I know you hate my positions, but please do not tell me that if suddenly got hit by a car, your reaction would be "fuck him, let him die, he cant pay".

Otherwise if money is the only thing that matters in life then be consistent, if I get hit by a car say "FUCK HIM HE CANT PAY"

You know you cant do that so SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I accept that inequity  exists in business, because it is a motivator,  but I do not like bullies or monopolies and anything that does not take into account basic human decency will never gain my value.

Beyond, any person who is on their death bed who is solely concerned about money is a fucking worthless piece of shit. Health is something that all of us need, and cannot be subject to means. Again if means is the measure of morality and therefore survival, then murder all poor people. If you cannot do that then stop being a hypocrite and accept that health is  a human issue, not a class issue.

I want my doctor do care for me. I don't want them concerned about getting rich anymore than I want my cops or military or fireman doing it for money. When you pay to play that is called organized crime.

Isn't that exactly how you work? You get paid, so you do your job. If you didn't get paid, you probably wouldn't do it. Why do you expect a doctor to work for charity? It is a nice thing to do, but doctors have things that they need and want too. 

No, my attitude is save his life and then send him the bill. 

Money is the only thing that matters when you are talking about peoples jobs. Very few people are willing and able to work without pay. I think it is rather fucked up that you expect to get paid for doing a job that isn't going to save peoples lives, but for a job that provides a service to the customer that is literally life or death you don't think they should do it for the money? I could live without you doing your job. I would literally die without my doctor. So yeah, I think my doctor deserves to be paid better than the vast majority of people I come in contact with, precisely because the service she provides to me is more important than what other people do for me. 

For someone who constantly says how much he hates bullies, you resort to the bullying tactic a lot. I will not shut up, no matter how many caps you throw at me. 

See above.

You also need food, water, shelter and clothing. All of which you pay for in a free market, and all of which people make large profits on. What makes medical care different? Or should we just completely scrap capitalism and money?

Well good luck finding a doctor like that. I only see my doctor once or twice a year for a few minutes. Hardly enough time to develop any kind of real relationship. It is simply impossible for a doctor to have a real relationship with every single one of their patients, just like I'm sure you have some regular customers in your restaurant that you have developed some kind of relationship with, while many others you wouldn't recognize if you ran into them on the street. If some random customer that you didn't know have a heart attack and died would you really care? I mean, sure on some level you would feel bad about it, but people die of heart attacks every hour and it would be absurd to really care about it to the extent that you would care if one of the regulars you know really well had a heart attack. 

Now consider a doctor who is in a field where their customers often die. Depending on their specialty, some doctors see patients die every week. You simply cannot let it bother you because you would cease being capable of performing your job and saving the ones you can save. To expect someone doing that kind of job to really care about every patient like they care about their family and friends is ridiculous. It takes a special kind of person to be able to handle the psychological strain, which is why doctors tend to have really high suicide, drug abuse and divorce rates compared to other professions. So yes, it is a very difficult job psychologically, mentally and technically. I think they deserve to be very highly reimbursed for it and I have no problem with them doing it for the money. Before I have a surgery, I want my doctor sleeping in the finest egyptian cotton that money can buy.  

I also think that cops, military and firemen should be much more highly reimbursed. But that is what happens when government is controlling salaries instead of a free market. The same person in the military for example who is making less than $40,000 can make $100k-$150k working as a mercenary or private security in a war zone. A fireman who works for a greedy profit grubbing private company like Firebreak earn approximately twice as much as their government counterparts. Government loves to blow a lot of money, but so much of it goes towards things that are not needed and towards paper pushers rather than efficiently providing the service. I see no benefit in doctors becoming low paid government employees. I will take my highly paid private doctor tyvm. 

In my experience the "greedy fuck(s)" aren't the ones most vested interests in your health. They are the ones to lose their license first, though.