Anyone hear of the atheist rap artist "Rational Warrior"?
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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to my knowledge none of them has covered ABBA. Does that bother you ?
yeah, for the last...six months? a year? it feels like a fucking eternity...every second comment outta brian (on average) has been abba this, abba that, abba is the fuckin'greatest. then when people finally get sick of hearing it and tell him so, he starts with his self-appointed, masochistic martyr shit, "go ahead! persecute me like all the jocks did growing up!" (which has to be exaggerated...nobody is going to go out of their way to torment someone constantly over their taste in music. if brian is anything in real life like he is on here, i'm sure him liking abba was not the root of the problem.)
it's a very christian tactic, really. we read how christians under the romans, the turkish sultans, etc., practically tripped over each other trying to get martyred. under the turks, they used to go before judges uninvited and start badmouthing muhammad until the poor judge, who was usually just trying desperately to get them to shut up and go home, had no choice but to make an example of them.
iow, making a nuisance of yourself unprovoked until someone tells you to give it a rest is not persecution (except maybe for the poor bastard who has to listen to your bullshit).
Sell some records first, then you can bitch.
ah yes, the classic bullshit cop-out. make sure you tell the next victim of medical malpractice, "get an MD first, then you can bitch."
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
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Young Inc, another atheist rapper.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
Check out my poetry here on Rational Responders Like my poetry thread on Facebook under Brian James Rational Poet, @Brianrrs37 on Twitter and my blog at www.brianjamesrationalpoet.blog
Rap sucks.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
i like "atheist" music as much as i like "christian" music. music that beats you over the head with a certain ideological position is contrived and terrible.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
No, that is merely your taste. I used to be monochromatic myself as far as music, not anymore. Now I will say it is not my taste, but I have heard some rap songs, like country, that were well made with great messages.
The truth is those at the top, the bigger the artist, if you look in their libraries, YOU WILL NOT find one type of music.
Just say it isn't your taste, I can understand that.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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Anything repeated can impact society. But music can also transcend as well. I am not a fan of either/or propositions.
Does anyone really think "Fade To Black" is meant to tell people to kill themselves? Does anyone really think that "I shot the sheriff" means "go shoot cops".
Rap is like any other style of music, and it is not all "gangsta". Anymore than the song "GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS" a hard rock song also represents Queen or Rush.
I have less of a reason, for example, to hate all country music because of ABBA's prior memberships in a band called "The Hootenannies".
Point being, you don't have to like an artist, or a message, but music changes precisely because it is diverse. The bands you like now are always a result of bands prior, and your stile of music was not around 100 years ago so it came from other styles.
Don't be a Ted Cruz, and miss the message like he did, "I do not like Green Eggs and Ham", was not about someone shoving something down your throat, but "Hey may I suggest you try something new".
I have come to like bits of everything. I have my favorites some more than others, but I don't count something out solely based on a style. It always depends on the song itself and the artist.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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Wrong. Rap sucks.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Agreed. I don't give a shit whether they're rapping about atheism or not.
Ok Ted Cruz, "I do not like green eggs and ham"
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
Check out my poetry here on Rational Responders Like my poetry thread on Facebook under Brian James Rational Poet, @Brianrrs37 on Twitter and my blog at www.brianjamesrationalpoet.blog
Your musical tastes are your own. Just as your political tastes are. It's not my fault your "tastes" suck in both areas.
ps, remember, you can't spell "crap" without "rap".
Which is why music NEVER changes, because there is always a right and wrong. And like theists, it just so happens music that is good happens to be what you like.
You sound exactly like my co-worker soul/rap fans who act like I murdered their family for playing 5 seconds of ABBA.
Rock/rap/country DID NOT EXIST 200 years ago. And what you think is good music now, your kids or younger generations will look at the "crap" you like and shit on it like you are now with what you don't like.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
Check out my poetry here on Rational Responders Like my poetry thread on Facebook under Brian James Rational Poet, @Brianrrs37 on Twitter and my blog at www.brianjamesrationalpoet.blog
At work I use an I-Pod with ear buds, no one hears my music. Problem solved.
Then I guess really shouldn't be too concerned about it...
Nope. Truly good music is timeless. Rap and country are both shitty fads. They will die, and be replaced by something equally shitty. But the good stuff lives forever.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
Wrong. Again that is your own personal taste.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
Check out my poetry here on Rational Responders Like my poetry thread on Facebook under Brian James Rational Poet, @Brianrrs37 on Twitter and my blog at www.brianjamesrationalpoet.blog
^Still wrong.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
country is hardly a fad. the first country records were waxed at least as early as 1923, when fiddlin' john carson cut "the little old log cabin in the lane," not to mention the fact that country's roots are largely in english and scottish ballads, which are at least as old as the eighteenth century. see the collections of francis child, carl sandburg, and john jacob niles if you don't believe me.
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson
Fads can last a long time. The current perception of democracy, for example, has existed for hundreds of years as well.
But they are still fads. They will still die. The good music will still remain strong. It will even gain strength as time goes on.
Enlightened Atheist, Gaming God.
I am quite sure that Areosmith and RUN DMC are on the skids because they ignored your advice. Which is why Yngwie Malmsteen never did an ABBA cover. OH WAIT!
Sell some records first, then you can bitch.
"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
Check out my poetry here on Rational Responders Like my poetry thread on Facebook under Brian James Rational Poet, @Brianrrs37 on Twitter and my blog at www.brianjamesrationalpoet.blog
I know you were addressing Vastet and I have no reason to doubt your knowledge regarding the roots of country music. No argument from me.
My personal musical tastes most certainly excludes country music in all its various shades. I grew up in Texas and had parents that loved that stuff. It just never took with me and I've heard it all my life. Just because country has a "pedigree" doesn't mean diddly to me ( no offense )
I listen to some pretty unsophisticated sounding metal bands, I also listen to techno-pop, art-rock, industrial metal, 80's New Wave yadda yadda all of which will probably fade into obscurity. Who really cares, though ? It's art not science. Value is assigned arbitrarily and by whim...not by logic.
Plus I like to yank Brian's chain when he becomes a little too sanctimonious ( see above post )
Bands cover other bands all the time. The famous Rolling stones song "Satisfaction" has been covered by Devo, Oingo Boingo, Britney Spears and numerous others. The Nu-Metal band known as Dope did a cover of the thoroughly "gay" sounding "You Spin Me Right Round" by Dead or Alive. The very avante-garde Nina Hagen did a cover of "Spirit In The Sky" by Norman Greenbaum, Marilyn Manson did a cover of Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus", the band Orgy did a cover of "Blue Monday" by New Order, etc....
to my knowledge none of them has covered ABBA. Does that bother you ?
You're bitching like crazy bro, ...so how many records have you sold again ?