You got me, that is why Bob still likes me. 

If you are going to hate me dont be half assed about it. I get that you think I am full of shit. But outside that if it isn't about you thinking I am a dipshit do the right thing and advocate for the elimination of your enemy. You certainly act like I deseve the death penalty. If not, then SHUT THE FUCK UP and admit you dont like me.

Anyone who puts up with me is most certainly weird. I'd be more worried about asking Bob to watch an NFL game with me.

No it is not me.

You are too fucking childish to adimit you don't like me. I don't like you either.

Now unless you are williing to murder me over what you know I get wrong then all it amounts to is YOU.

Just say "Brian is an asshole and I dont like him"

I get that. I think you are an asshole too.

 

Yes it is you.

You are too childish to admit that you LIE and you're a HYPOCRITE and that you LABEL everyone and refuse to acknowledge the FACT that EVERYONE here has said they despise you. Keep making shit up, loser.

What I do or don't do has no impact on the fact that the problem is YOU.

Except that's another LIE. You aren't an asshole, you're a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE and COWARD.
Actually you are an asshole, but I can get along just fine with assholes. It's the fact that YOU are a THEIST who pretends to be an atheist that annoys me. Stop lying and admit it.

First thing you've said in years that had ANY truth to it at all.

Really?!? Name one. 

 

And yet despite your professed problem with labels- you have repeatedly refuse to directly acknowledge points made- instead you start ranting about how people hate you, or start talking about a completely unrelated subject. You repeatedly refuse to answer direct questions, or discuss anything in detail. As soon as anything specific comes up, you start a new thread and run away. 

The real question is, are you capable of being honest with yourself at least? Or have you gone totally batshit crazy and actually buy into your martyr complex hype. FWIW, I don't hate you. I pity you for the sad little angry life you live and think you ought to seriously consider getting some psychological help if your antics aren't just intentional trolling. You really aren't worth my effort to hate, I'm lazy.  

Thank you for proving my point all this is bluster to admit you dont like me.

I GET THAT FUCKWAD  and I feel the same about you.

I don't expect you to go anywhere. So it still amounts to bitching. I get that.

ABBA loves you too. 

Brian deludes himself. He ignores the reality that I have repeatedly said I don't like him, and why I don't like him, and pretends I harbour some secret hatred against him that seeps out in my writting. In Brians mind he's the hero, he can do no wrong. He's right about everything, and everyone else is wrong. It would fracture his psyche to admit the truth, much like it would fracture the psyche of a theist to admit the truth. In fact, Brian is a theist. His religion is atheism.
Usually atheism is incapable of being a religion, but if one buts blind faith into it and ignores all evidence in favour of his perfect explanation of the universe, it actually can become a religion. With Brian, this has happened.

Because Brian has no emotional control, outbursts like this are common. It is interesting to note that his behaviour most closely resembles that of an adolescent. Which leads us to conclude there is a very real possibility that Brian has a learning deficiency and has never progressed beyond the stage of a teenager.

When one looks at his posts in general, this actually starts to make sense. He is completely self centred, throws tantrums regularly, refuses to acknowledge others, the list goes on. Classic adolescence.

In light of these revelations, it becomes obvious why Brian cannot accept the reality that he is the problem. He hasn't matured enough to do so. Considering his age, it becomes doubtful that such maturity will ever be within his grasp. It is not impossible that he could overcome it, the fact that he can communicate his own mind so clearly suggests that his inability to communicate effectively with others is the result of the mental blocks he has in place to protect his self-centred world view. But overcoming those blocks would require thought, and Brian doesn't like to think. Let alone think about himself. He likes to pretend, but he doesn't like to think.

Now this is a demonstration that not all hope is lost. Brian feels guilty. Brian doesn't know why he feels guilty, but he feels guilty. If he ever does some real introspection it will all become clear, but he doesn't want to do that. Instead, he tries to lighten the mood to make himself feel better. Deep down he knows he's wrong, but if he admits to that it will allow the real world to sneak in, and Brian is afraid.
The fact that Brian is capable of feeling guilt for his actions would seem like there is hope, but Brian has successfully used this tactic for nearly a decade and it hasn't changed. In fact, his need to feel superior to others has only increased. As a result, he has managed to attack almost every single member of the site at one time or another. Given time, he will eventually turn on Bob and Brian Sapient as well, as the line of enemies must be ever growing to satisfy his martyr complex.

 

    Brian, any news about that fake Einstein quote you refuse to admit to ?   

LMAO. Yeah, right? I haven't seen a flame war since... oh fucking 1983? 1985? when BBS's had a section of their forums devoted to trashing another person.

 

  Go to Brian's poetry thread.  He chose to respond in a thread he thought no one viewed ( coward ),  start at post #586.   He resorted to the Brian William's defense and spewing all cap "FUCKS YOU"s.  The dude is losing his mind.   

 I realize that Brian has given up on on trying to respond to this accusation, just as with many others because he finds arguing with many of his accusers is ultimately unproductive.

However I feel like inserting one of my relatively infrequent comments here...

First, a fundamental irritation I have with many acusations or assumption of 'lying', in all kinds of contexts, is the basic fallacious assumption of a dichotomy: if what someone says is perceived to not be true, it is assumed that they must be 'lying'. They ignore the third option, ie, that they are mistaken.

The 'quote':

      "If if any two points in the universe are are separating from each other due to the expansion of the universe faster than the speed of light, they cannot have any affect on each other. Albert Einstein."

Second, in the particular case of this quote, it doesn't seem to be something Einstein did say, but it does follow from his theories, and is very relevant in terms of current ideas about the apparent effect of 'dark energy' in accelerating the rate of expansion of the universe.

And while Quantum Mechanics suggests 'everything is connected', that has extremely little or no observable effect in all but very special conditions. Even in the 'spookiest' case, of Quantum Entanglement, it just means that if we measure the spin of one particle, we will immediately know the spin of a particle 'entangled' with it, even if it is a long distance away, maybe on the other side of the universe. So what?

In many such 'connections', any effect between two particles is likely to be lost in the noise of all the other influences, especially from more local sources.

I don't see it as a lie. I just wanted to have a response to it because when I saw it I knew it wasn't a quote from Einstein. I responded to him, I was the first to respond, that he should retract it.

Did he? No. Did he ever acknowloedge my request? No. Did he defend it? No. Did he attempt to resolve or correct it? No.

I won't dwell on the second part, but I believe every thing is connected in some form or fashion.

bob, i for one asked him to explain what happened. he never once said he was mistaken. he never said anything. i don't know why you're talking about him "giving up trying to respond to this accusation." he has never even started responding, or ever explained himself about anything when he's been caught in a factual error, einstein quote or otherwise. that is his fundamental dishonesty, and one i personally will not ignore as long as he persists in a bombastic, confrontational, morally superior attitude. ask yourself, when's the last time i actually started an argument with him? i'm willing to bet it was many months ago. he constantly seeks out confrontation and naturally most people here have lost patience. i don't think he lies all the time, but i think he's definitely dishonest at times to keep himself from having to admit a mistake to a perceived "enemy," even if that dishonesty only takes the form of his fleeing the discussion. it's just flat out immature, and deserves pointing out, considering one of his constant refrains, to me and others, is "grow up."

^Which in no way excuses him nor does it explain the CONSTANT lies about every single frequent poster to this site. Of far more importance than a single misquote is the fact that Brian misrepresents the positions of dozens of people on a near-daily basis, and ignores all factual evidence to the contrary. Of even greater concern is the fact that he follows people around with the specific intent of doing this, making him the worst person to post here since Shizzle got the boot.

a., i don't care about if "everything is connected" or not. i said clearly at least twice on that thread that i have no dog in that fight. i merely want brian to start being honest and showing a little humility.


b., you didn't have to "try." i freely offered to clarify, though i think my original remarks were clear enough. i never "dismissed" the accusation of cherry-picking. i embraced it. it is my contention that it is a completely unwarranted modern prejudice that we have to swallow (or vomit up) our ideologies whole--be they political, religous, or whatever--or else we're somehow cheating or being "inconsistent" or "dishonest." cherry-picking--in ideologies, mind you--is the rationl faculty at work. i take what is worthy in a construct and reject the rubbish. i see no reason to dismiss any ideology out of hand if it contains useful elements...but of course it makes the polemicist's job much harder, doesn't it? if someone has decided they're going to make war on the label "muslim," for example, yet encounters a muslim who rejects most of the elements of islam the polemicist considers negative, he feels he's being cheated and accuses the muslim of either being a bad or inconsistent or dishonest muslim, or else accuses him of covering up for his correligionists who do embrace those negative elements (an attractive idea, but ultimately unverifiable). so i understand why anti-religion polemicists don't like my view...but that is as far as they can take the argument: they just don't like it. now, if you don't like my view, fine. but don't tell me i'm dismissing the label or dodging your question (actually it was a threat to bring up my "totally self-serving" defense of cherry-picking, if i recall) or something like that. i'm being completely forthcoming with you.

 Ok, I take your points on 'cherry-picking', about being required to accept an argument as a whole, accepting every detail. But I think you are missing the real problems addressed by the term. I think it refers to addressing relatively minor points in an argument while ignoring the major points, which is the reverse of what you seem to be defending, ie not fussing over the minor points.

Of course there may well be disagreement over what are 'major' and 'minor' points, which is probably where problems arise.

 "Vendeta"? OOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, must be good shit you are smoking.

Now no "vendeta" at all saying you are one of 7 billion. No "vendeta" in accepting that YOU personally do not like me. Got it, that is your right. Now have I tied you to a post and offered you your last smoke? 

 

Now when you keep talking about religion being complex. NO SHIT. When you talk about the differences between say Japan's Buddhists or Tibett's or China's Buddhists, when you talk about the difference bettwen Pakistani Muslims vs Saudi Muslims

NO FUCKING SHIT. Humans are the ones who come up with those complicated things, but outside that the thing you don't want to face and neither do most humans, is that we are not as different as you want us to be. Our labels DO NOT change our evolution. We all group, we all need rescources, we all want to feel safe in our environments, and we also like to bitch when we don't like things.

Now please do not fucking claim you love all the Islamic violence which only an idiot would claim is not comming out of the Koran, regardless of who is finding their morality sunni or shiite. And don't be fucking stupid thrying to claim that means I am making one huge lump statement, other than the division is coming from competing factions reading the exact same book coming to different conclusions. It isn't a matter of "all" it is a matter of the idea of man made religion allowing a big enough minority MINORITY have most of the power over their MAJORITY. 

Now, wouldn't it be nice if the East got to the point you and I are at now? No one being murdered over cartoons or getting offended? Naw, fuck it, lets never challenge those social norms because someone might get offended.

No "Vandetta" on my part. Just you obbessing over bullshit. I am not out to have you arrested. I don't want to kill you. You simply don't like me. AND THAT RIGHT THERE is the entire point most humans miss. It is more important to them do do stupid shit like you do, than to accept you are not the center of the planet.

Now agian here is what I can do that you cannot. "You do not have to like me" 

Here is what you stupidly insist on "You upset me, don't ever do that", Unfortunately that is still where most of our species is at. If it worked we'd all be singing Barny and petting kittens.

The only one acting like absolutes are a blanket statement is you. If you want to walk around with a stick up your ass because you are afraid of offending others, fine. But I am not you. The only one obsessing here is you. 

Now for the A D D aflicted. You are NOT the center of my life. I post on several websites. I make the same arguments with you elsewhere. And if you agree I am not the center of your life, why do you stupidly keep responding?

A "Vendeta" would be demanding yo be baned. A "Vendeta" would be demanding my government silence and or arrest you. Immature is what you are doing expecting 7 billion humans to kiss your ass. Unfortunately you ran into me and that ruined your day. But you also did not die over it either.

 

brian, you don't have to like me either. in fact, if you did, i'd be worried i must be doing something wrong.

Bingo!