NO "atheist" does not bread hatred. Bad ideas litterally can and do lead to atrocities. The dark ages was a result of the church dominating Europe based on the idea that Christians were God's chosen people. 9/11 was a result of 19 Muslims having a lifetime of indoctrination in belief that killing for Mo and Allah would make them heros. Hitler sold the bad idea that God had a master race and Germans were his chosen people.

Now you take atheists words out of context. Telling people their claims can manifest into dangerous politics is true. Dawkins is absolutely right. The idea of continuing on after death, isn't based on anything scientific, but emotional. Nobody is suggesting the forced end of religion. But the words in the Bible and Quran and Jewish OT, DO contain stories of entitlement for the respective clubs, and that idea causes humans to be tribal. There simply is not polite way to put it.

You quoted Voltaire. YEP and that is why religion should be questioned and be open to scrutiny and blasphemy. Without the ability to question religion, things like slavery wouldn't have ended. Without the ability to queston religion women would not have gained the right to vote. Without the ability to question relgion gays would not have the right to get married. If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves.

Now, if you have spent any time here, you should know that even atheists have fights between each other. Ibwiek and Beyond and especially Vastet hate my guts. "atheist" is NOT a club or gang, it is not a political party or economic view. It is not a call for fascism or dictatorship. "atheist" merely means "off" on one claim, god claims. Outside our common "off" position, we are just as diverse in our policial and economic views. 

I value empathetic humans like Ann Frank, but that does not make Yahweh a real god. I value the likes of Malala, but that does not make Allah a real god. I value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, but that does not make the God of Jesus a real god.

I also value the right for Beyond and Ibwiek and Vastet, to cuss me out. Not because I agree with them, but because getting offended to me, not the worst thing in the world. I don't think they give one shit about what I think either. 

Civility isn't about never getting your claims picked on or never getting offended, or never offending. Civility is how you respond in the face of those situation. There are 7 billion humans, to think we can create a utopia where nobody speaks ill of others, or their claims is bullshit. It will happen. The only reasonble thing humans can do, which is is proven morso in the west, is civility through common law. The idea that you can offend but you cannot advocate violence or act out in violence. The Middle East is far too theocratic, even if not all Muslims want it to be. And just like the monochromatic blind loyalty of Kim Jong Un, Islamic theocrats would murder both you and me and Ibwiek and Vastet and Beyond, even if all we said is "that is not true".

Getting your claims picked on is not the worst thing in the world. Getting violent because someone picked on your claims does not demonstrate evidence that your claims have evidence. Getting violent because your claims got picked on is a sign of insecurity. 

I'll let the two retards yell at each other.

The atheist movement, in composition and purpose, has in the last decade failed to demonstrate a meaningful dedication to fighting economic inequality and building a safe space for nontheists regardless of their socioeconomic class. Despite all their talk of building a better world and upholding diversity, contemporary atheism and humanism's most prominent authors and leaders have been suspiciously silent on the topic of poverty. This limits the movement's ability achieve universal compassion, and renders it unattractive to those who don't occupy a comfortable spot on the social hierarchy.

What's even worse: the atheist movement's implicit dismissal of class inequality greatly hinders its ability to build meaningful and sustainable partnerships with other moral communities, either as a function of or a result of this disregard. It creates distance between organized atheism and religious groups that are predominantly composed of the underprivileged. Without these partnerships, the idea of building "a better world" is not only unachievable, but incoherent.

The last decade is peppered with blatant examples of outright classist language and motivation that has directly distanced the atheist movement from peer religious communities. Richard Dawkins has an affinity for referring to the "educated elite" (as he does in The God Delusion) or to "elite scientists" in discussing atheist demographics--essentially, he appeals to the fact that because those in the overclass of academia share a particular view, those below them ought to strive towards it as well. In doing so, he implies that they might too achieve some sort of enlightened intellectual prosperity that these privileged elite scientists have been graced with. Atheists today allege that the stereotypes discussed earlier are leveled purely out of the insecurity of the religious position. Yet, it seems they are rather an indictment of the movement's narrow, upper-class focus, which both ignores and marginalizes the underprivileged who haven't access to the same educational opportunities.
WALKER BRISTOL, HUFFINGTON POST

says the atheist that is part of a atheist hate group

This asshole doesn't know the first thing about logic or rationality or anything else sane. He's always been a perfect example of the evil of theism.

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   ↑  This is one of those rare opportunities to simply state, I first came to the board because after four failed attempts to talk about Mythology (on boards exclusively DEDICATED towards/to  the subject of mythology ONLINE), I ended up here, at this site.

 In some of the last few months, I have gotten away from that though. Now, These images admittedly playfully cryptic, on one level, have just now become an essential aspect of the healing process, with much more meaning than any over-due therapy.  Plus,  It helped to generate  as much  suspicious activities,  in posting, as  my aching  sides can muster ( h e  h e ).

   OFF-Site  get the FACTS before you Judge who will contaminate the rest of you, K?!!?!!

    Image is the Comment ::   Now, I have to acknowledge this Image or additional image  really should be posted in the "It Works For Me" Thread.  However,  Placing this here because Fonzie started to feel all alone and furthermore ganged up on . .

Oh so when you point out the dark side of religion, that's ok, but cant understand why Hitchens called religion poison. "the evil of theism" YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS ASSHOLE!

I agree with you jackass!

Religion is a comic book reflection of human's desires and because of that false percetion people form groups and because those groups cant agree, even among the same labels, that "evil of theism" causes needless human divisions. 

AND AGAIN FUCKWAD, you don't call it "evil" or "poison" because you can get rid if it, you do it the same way you treat a car as a weapon, the same way you cant get rid of a volcano but it's stupid to ignore the ground rumbling before it errupts.

Those who accept absurdities can go on to commit attrocities. And the worst part of you childish crap since our falling out is you cant even see that WE are both atheists and neither of us is givng the other a pass, THAT IS HEALTHY!

We have both been raised in very open socities that value an open system and a free press and that is vital for BOTH you and me, and even theists.

It still boils down to rights and claims. Humans have rights, but claims as ideas do not deserve blind value. The right to make the claim, also includes the right for others to critize and even blaspheme that claim, FUCKWAD!

He was  not a psuedo intellectual asshole, he had a SCIENCE DEGREE!

Once again dipshit this is how you sound,,

You, "Why are you so mean to people who believe the earth is flat"

Me, "LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHTS AND CLAIMS DUMBASS!"

Religion in all it's forums in all of human history are nothing more than human's projections of their own desires and insecurities. It is a evolutionary flaw based on GAP FILLING. I am sorry that bother's you but that is your fucking baggage, not mine and not the baggage of scientists or scientific meathod.

If our species never questioned social norms you wouldn't be typing your bullshit argument right now.

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR childish kneejerk brain. I CANT STOP YOU FROM BEING A DUMBASS! But I certainly am going to call religion what it is, a superfluous crutch, and one, when it is given taboos, has a very dark side. You challenge it and even blaspheme it, not to get rid of it, but to keep it on a leash and to work toward an attitude of more people being WILLING to consider they got it wrong.

If Galileo had been too scared to say anything we'd have no modern knowledge of science much less any form of space program.

Every single religion in the world pulls the same bullshit tactics. When they cant flat out debunk science, they try to co opt it to point to their religion. Our ability to make discoveries and invent things as a species IS NOT IN A HOLY BOOK OR IN A RELIGION, it is a result of our evolution.

Scientific method DOES NOT prop up the Bible or Quran or Torah OR Talmud or Hindu Vedas or Buddha. Scientific method is a tool, not a religion. It is completely religion independent. The only thing science can explain about why people make up god claims is because of our evolutionary notoriously flawed perceptions of reality, and because MOST humans sell that to kids before they can form adult reasoning skills, religion is harder to challenge and gets passed down generation after generation. INCLUDING BUDDHISM WHICH WAS ALSO STARTED WITHOUT MODERN KNOWLEDGE OF SCIENTIFIC METHOD.

THE UPSIDE is that we also evolved as a species TO QUESTION ideas and claims, and it is that ability that many of the horrible things humans used to justify in the name of religion we don't do as much, especially morso in the west. FUCKWADS like you want to coddle the insecurities of the religious and you do so out of some stupid fucking fear that any "BOO" said to religion is a call for force. 

"Bullshit" does not mean "I want you dead", it just means "NO FUCKWAD, THE YANKEES DID NOT WIN THE SUPERBOWL".

I am NOT telling you to go away, I am telling you to GROW THE FUCK UP!