But ARs are so scary looking. They must be banned. /s

But then again his support of 'diversity' led to the head of Secret Service and Homeland Security being 'diveristy' hires. Trump was as secure as our border.

Why the hell is Trump relying on agencies run by Biden for his security? Doesn't he have the money to hire his own people or ask MAGA nation to pay for non-diveristy military men to provide security?

 I never said you "wanted it to happen", I said you SAVED Trumps life. Thanks to folks like you, this nutjob thought an AR was the appropriate tool for the task. 

 

 

Any background check would have come back clean - he violated precisely zero laws in his life. The media hasn't even found a parking ticket. Are you suggesting that gun store owners should demand to know what school you went to and call old classmates and teachers to ask if you were bullied and that being bullied as a kid should disqualify you from gun ownership? That might be the silliest thing you've ever said.  

 

 

Your reading comprehension sucks. Of course checking government "background records" meaning "clean at the time of buy" won't find anything. I FUCKING AGREE, which is why we shouldn't simply rely on "no record" because many people fly under the raidar like this kid because they had no priors. It should be law that shop owners do face to face interviews with family and co workers and friends of the potential buyer inestead of relying on "no record". Plus a waiting period of  a week, and a limit on ammo. ON ANY TYPE OF GUN. 

And how dare you claim because I advocate the ban on spray weapon machine guns means I made it an advertisement. When we had the ban back in the 90s it worked. Blame the GOP for repealing it. But more importantly blame the MAGA nutfucks who treat firearms like porn. 

 

What would qualify a 'shop owner' to do such an evaluation? Wouldn't government have to decide if the shop owner is qualified to conduct such interviews? Wouldn't the potential buyer just list family and friends that are on his side?

Couldn't this guy just buy gun parts in Mexico and bring them back across our wide open border? Or 3D print the gun parts?

 

There was a failure of government at every level from the teachers that didn't stop the relentless bullying, to local law enforcement to the SS. So our insane society now will double down and say more funding for shit that does not work, more tax slavery for working people.

Boy do you love putting thougths in my head that are not there. Read what I type, don't insert images in your head that I am not talking about. 

People of all colors, of all zip codes, of all classes, get firearms when they shouldn't, and the do it for the most part, LEGALLY. Nobody is saying someone should be denied a firearm based on looks, or race. For you to imply that is fucking bullshit. 

I don't care if the shooter is black, or white, or rich or poor. I do care about our flooded market of 400million firearms and ease of access. It is too fucking easy to walk into a gun shop and walk out with a firearm. People fly under the raidar all the time. THIS WHITE SHOOTER who was a REPUBLICAN, came from a good home. But the asshole who sold the father the gun, didn't give shit to care to know that the kid was bullied. I was bullied as a kid, and the only reason I didn't end up like that shooter is because I am lucky enough to hate guns. But I was bullied, and I had plenty of thoughts about hurting the assholes who bullied me. 

But it isn't about motif. FUCK MOTIVE. #1 cause of firearm death is suicide. I also suffer from depression and anxiety. If I had been raised by a gun fetish nutbag with my mental illness I would have killed myself in my teens.  #1 cause of death under the age of 18 is USE OF FIREARMS, not cancer, not disease, not auto accidents, FUCKING FIREARMS. 

And if you give a shit about girls and women #2 is domestic violence. Females are far more likely to be injured or murdered by a boyfriend/spouse, with a gun in the home, than without. That also is not a race issue or zip code issue. 

#3, accidental injury or death. You are more likely to accidentally injure yourself or someone you know than successfully defending yourself from a complete stranger. 

IT IS THE FUCKING GUNS, and if yoiu want to claim a gun cant shoot itself, I don't give a shit. It still is the fucking obsession to a fetish degree that America has with these tools of death. The firearm makers love the violence because it sells more firearms to blacks and whites and cops and any fucking moron who thinks guns are always the solution. 
 

 

I read what you typed - you wrote: "It should be law that shop owners do face to face interviews with family and co workers and friends of the potential buyer inestead of relying on "no record"."

I then asked a question seeking clarification since you basically said the law should be that gunshop owners should do face to face interviews with all sorts of people to determine whether or not they should sell a gun to someone. Which means that at the end of the day, it is completely up to the discretion of teh shopowner to decide who to sell a gun to (and therefore who can't have guns). 

"People of all colors, of all zip codes, of all classes, get firearms when they shouldn't, and the do it for the most part, LEGALLY. Nobody is saying someone should be denied a firearm based on looks, or race. For you to imply that is fucking bullshit."

Under your proposed law, it is inevitable that gunshop owners would not approve of selling to all colors, zip codes or classes. So I'm asking if you would have a problem if a gunshop owner just simply refused to sell to an entire demographic on the basis that they are higher risk. Which you are essentially saying in this case that the gunshop owner should not have sold a gun to the father of someone who was bullied in school. People who were bullied in school is a big demographic. It might surprise you that the vast majority of people who were bullied in school have never and would never murder anyone. People who are related to people who were bullied in school is a huge demographic. I'm not sure whether being bullied in school is even a statistical predictor of whether someone has an above average probability of attempting to murder someone. I am certain that having high levels of melanin, living in certain zipcodes, being male, and having a below average income are all statistically significant predictors of potential gun violence. There are tons of statistics out there supporting that. So if I'm a gunshop owner, potentially on the hook if a gun I sell is used in a crime, then your melanin levels, the zipcode you live in, your gender and your income level are all things that it would only be prudent for me to take into account. Whether or not your kid was bullied in school - probalby not near the top of the list. Probably not as much of a risk as say dropping out of school. 


"But the asshole who sold the father the gun, didn't give shit to care to know that the kid was bullied."

Under current law, it isn't legal to deny the sale to a person because their kid is bullied in school. So you have no way of knowing if the gunshop owner gave a shit or not. For all you know, the gunshop owner and father had a huge discussion about the topic. You know absolutely jack shit about the gunshop owner or where the gun was sold. Yet here you are passing judgement on a decision they made - where legally they had no decision at all. Pretty sure that makes you the asshole.  

 

 

"I was bullied as a kid, and the only reason I didn't end up like that shooter is because I am lucky enough to hate guns. But I was bullied, and I had plenty of thoughts about hurting the assholes who bullied me."

Wow. I was bullied, I own what some would call a shitload of guns. I have shot at precisely zero humans, nor have I ever seriously considered killing one outside of my duties in the USMC where killing a person was in my case an entirely theoretical exercise.  Sounds like a therapist would be far more useful to you than a gun law. 

"But it isn't about motif. FUCK MOTIVE. #1 cause of firearm death is suicide. I also suffer from depression and anxiety. If I had been raised by a gun fetish nutbag with my mental illness I would have killed myself in my teens.  #1 cause of death under the age of 18 is USE OF FIREARMS, not cancer, not disease, not auto accidents, FUCKING FIREARMS."

I guess fortunately you didn't figure out any of the thousand non-firearm ways to kill yourself.  But I go back to a therapist would be far more useful than a gun law. 

 
"And if you give a shit about girls and women #2 is domestic violence. Females are far more likely to be injured or murdered by a boyfriend/spouse, with a gun in the home, than without. That also is not a race issue or zip code issue." 

Except it is a race and zipcode issue. You state things like "#1 cause of death under the age of 18 is USE OF FIREARMS". Yet if you exclude black teenagers, suddenly it isn't even top 10. We know exactly where gun violence happens most, we know exactly who is most likely to get shot, and we know exactly who is doing the shooting. Sure, there are a number of incidents that fall outside of the most common, but to ignore the underlying issues which have little to do with guns is folly. 

"#3, accidental injury or death. You are more likely to accidentally injure yourself or someone you know than successfully defending yourself from a complete stranger. "

I agree. The reality is that in the US, crime isn't that common. I have been mugged zero times and have had people break into my house zero times. I have had some property stolen over the years, but most thiefs prefer to steal when nobody is around. Getting shot is also extremely uncommon. With proper firearm safety procedure, it is even more uncommon. I have little sympathy for those who shoot themselves due to their own stupidity and irresponsibility. 
 

"IT IS THE FUCKING GUNS, and if yoiu want to claim a gun cant shoot itself, I don't give a shit. It still is the fucking obsession to a fetish degree that America has with these tools of death. The firearm makers love the violence because it sells more firearms to blacks and whites and cops and any fucking moron who thinks guns are always the solution. " 

So are you finally on the side of an outright ban on all guns?