Just for curiousities sake, can you hazard a guess on what percentage are religious?

Another thing that is interesting, if the numbers are real low,  is that Christianity is based on a faith that has been abandoned by it's creators...an empty foundation on which to build a religion. I guess this applies to Islam also since it's has it's roots in Judiasm.

A Jew is a Jew by ethnicity and/or religion.  In Israel for example, it is estimated that 25% of Jews are Atheist and up to another 25% are Agnostic.

Even many believers are very secular.  Slightly less than 50% of Jews in Israel go to synagogue at least once a year on Saturdays. 

We even have our share of Young Earthers, unfortunately, and a those who deny evolution as fact.  The more religious one is, the more likely they are not to accept evolution. 

What's funny about atheist jews is that it shows what Nietzsche said about God's Life expectency... That after a certain amount of time a religion decays and you have to create a new god for people to believe in him. Judaism is one of the oldest religion out there, and jews were among the first very prominent atheist (such as marxists for instance, "religion is people's opiate&quot.

Did they let the retarded class out early? No Jews believe Jesus to be the son of God - otherwise they'd be Christians not Jews. And there are plenty of Christian thugs.

I forgot about them. Wasn't it actually started by evangelists to convert Jews though? Isn't that kind of like Christians for Mohammed or Moslems for the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

And to SOG (isn't using that name blasphemy?)

And as to asking how someone can be Jewish and not believe in Jesus....

Many Apocalypse freaks believe than when there are 144,000 Jewish converts to Christianity, these Jews will be raptured, then the Apocalypse/Armageddon will start for the rest of us. I don't know if they've reach that number yet.

This new fellow is like a caricature. I at first did not believe that such people existed, but now...tell me, sir. do you drink industrial pollutants, or are you simply naturally retarded?

Well, you see, you obviously have a misunderstanding of what a "jew" is. The "Jews" are Semitic ethnicity, as an ethnic bloodline, it is considered passed through the mother. Ergo, if one has a Jewish mother, they are, themselves, Jewish, regardless of what they believe. They might believe the moon is made of green cheese. It really makes no difference.

This phrase makes perfect sense to me.

Of course it is. See above, sir. The considerations are ethnic based, not belief-based.

Actually, I can correct you theologically here too. The Jews, ie those that follow the religion which is concomitant with Judaism, the Jewish ethnicity, do not believe that Christ was their Messiah. The religion we now call "Christianity" began as a small cult that was originally Jewish. However, it is now, of course, a separate religion. My correction to you is merely out of the fact that I'm enjoying humiliating you. It makes no personal difference to me since I don't believe in God, let alone his offspring.

Actually, with respect to people who need help, you may wish to take a hard look in the mirror. Your prose indicates you are inflicted with a tragic, albeit staggeringly prevalent disease known as "idiocy".

Alright. That's it. Nobody is that stupid. Nobody. For fuck's sake, you aren't at a bar. Anyone who uses "y'all" (and not even with correct apostrophes) is pure, distilled idiocy.

...The Hell? So, are they - even as we speak - locked away in their basement, sifting through old newspapers, and taking a manual head count as best they can?

How are they supposed to keep track of something so ambiguous?

the only way to solve the problems is using you brains...what is the god who create the god figure in your brain?i know you all thinking about it but even makin the discussion about it claims that you all aprove it... so do not even talk about it...cause it is only a THING in your brain

Wait.. maybe he means 'thug' as in the 'Thugee' cults of Victorian India?

I quite agree. I think Jews who claim to be atheists are betraying their own people. Woe unto them.

Some things I don't understand about Judism. Can anyone answer:

Do religious Jews believe in an afterlife of heaven and hell? Do some people just die and that's it?

Who gets in to heaven and why? Who goes to hell and why?

The reason I ask is the Old Testament doesn't say much about an afterlife. Just says everyone goes to the grave(sheol). Why would anyone be part of a religion that doesn't promise an afterlife for it's adherents?

Essentially you've got it right. Although it depends what Jew you ask. If you ask a right-winger, especially an Israeli one, your almost certainly going to get the must believe in B.S. answer.

On the other hand, there are tens of thousands of Atheist Jews. (That really kills the religious Jews.)

You ever heard the expression "A bad Jew!"? (Now you have.)

It's not uncommon to find Jews that are almost entirely unobservant of every tradition, excepting perhaps 1 or 2 days a year, just in their own minds to satisfy themselves and to show everyone they're around that they're part of the
Jewish bunch.

You're likely to find much disagreement on this, since you'll also find that large groups of Jews hate other large groups of Jews. It's not uncommon.

It's not much different than the Christian that simply stopped going to Church, but happens to believe in "God".

The root cause of the worlds problems is tradition, judiasm (religion + culture) is just one example and I did not mean to imply it was the only one

Your post above the quoted post above "implied" anything.
It was quite specific.

I take it you would like to extend and revise your post.
Personally, I think everyone should be entitled to do so.

Despite the subsequent "clarification", I do NOT take it that you are NOT an anti-Semite.

I can't find anything else within the post quoted above that's worth responding to.

In the Bible it states in Revelation that the world would come to this.  That more and more Jewish people would be deceived by science, and false prophets.  The very fact that (most of you) just say that Christians are ignorant and stupid makes the Bible become even more convincing to me and everyone else as God predicted this would happen.  Soon, God will give Jews a second opportunity when he presents himself.  You are all very lucky that you are in fact, whether you like it or not "Gods Chosen People".  If you were to go to Jerusalum however and claim you were Jewish and try to become a member of  a Jewish church, you would not be allowed unless you believed in God.  I am sad for all of you that are hurting inside. And, yes I know you will bash me and say I'm hurting or whatever.  You will say I am ignorant (even with 2 Masters Degrees, and a teacher and great father and husband), but lets really stop and take a look inside yourselves and really see whats going on instead of reacting out of anger because my words have touched a soft spot in your heart.  I will pray that God comes into your heart and reveals himself to you.  Whether you like it or not, if you truly are Jewish, you should know than that you came from Jacob and Abraham and what is now called Israel.  They, ironcially were firm believers in Christ.

 one, god is an entity but people think of him as a man because its easier to picture and or understand

I think Jews, at least in the secular west, were certainly ahead of the curve in promoting the idea that it was ok to be into the tradition without literally believing in the god.

I wouldn't get stuck on labels. It is possible for atheists to celebrate Christmas without believing in a zombie god.

You can  partake in a tradition without believing in the superstition. How many of us here will celebrate Christmas without believing that Santa is real or that God tapped Barry White on the shoulder to play music to put Mary in the mood to get knocked up?

So yes, Jews, and any other label of religion, CAN and do partake in social traditions without literally believing in the magical superstitions.

When I visited Japan I took part in a harvest festival, does that mean because I enjoyed it I have the same politics or gods or superstitions they do?

How quickly adults dismiss the invisible friends of others, yet all humans would dismiss their kid claiming their invisible friend whom they play with in the sandbox.

The only difference between the invisible friends of adults and the invisible friends of children are money and politics.

               First off pick a name and join us.   Secondly  Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist;  that's if you buy into any of that bible stuff. I don't buy into all of it. John the B was probably real whereas J.C. or Joshua bar Joseph was NOT real.  Thirdly if we are all god's children then what's so effing special about Jesus H. Christ anyways.

                I DID use the words "probably real.."  only because I think he was.  For several reasons, yet I know I could be wrong.  In the bible  John the B was human, he was never credited with magical woo woo at any time.  When I toured Israel a decade ago My group was taken to a cave near the Jordan river where  SOMEBODY was performing ritual bathing [baptising] in the first century, the tour guide and my own eyes said that the grotto was in use long before and long after John's time,  but John gets the credit for it.

                All the Herods and Pontius Pilate and several other charactors in the bible where real historical persons which proves only that the bible is not TOTAL B.S.  just a LOT of B.S.  A rabal  rousing preacher called John the baptiser was exicuted by Herod Antipas at the prompting of his wife [ not step-daughter] because of his preachings against their wedding.

               Josephus wrote about the incident, scholers consider it credible, what Josephus wrote about Jesus scholers consider non-credible [added in later].  Ritual bathing still takes place in Orthdox Synagogs today,  meaning John did not invent the practice [ no one said he did] he was just carrying on an old tradition with his new - anti-Herod  -  preachings.

               A modern sect called Mandaeans still follow the teachings of John the B with heavy emphsis on daily clensing. They live mostly in Iraq, Iran and Syria today. They do not  consider John has anything other then a human prophet.  One way to describe the Mandaeans is they evolved from Judaisim but did not involve christianity. 

               The proviso here is that ritual bathing was common, and the name John was also common. Based on his preachings John the B was one of the sources {one of meny} for the Jesus charactor.  So I believe John the baptist was probably real  and that does not make Jesus real nor does it make me less an atheist.

                Jim