Well there's a really simple law that shows god is impossible. The law of conservation: Matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed. This law has been tested to redundancy, and much of our understanding of reality is based on it.

I would also suggest you read some of todangsts essays on the incoherancy of the terms god and supernatural.

http://www.rationalresponders.com/god_is_an_incoherent_term

http://www.rationalresponders.com/supernatural_and_immaterial_are_broken_concepts

As to why we want people to stop believing in fairy tales, said fairy tales are responsible for 90%+ of the conflicts of today, and most of those of yesterday as well. Removing the most common tool of war and immorality can only better the species.

Man, I'm tired of answering the same questions. 

Atheism is not a religion. So the word "convert" is not accurate.

I consider myself an agnostic-atheist. I'd like to believe that there is a god. But there is no evidence for it.

Well, I can't call somebody irrational if they believe that the movie Jurassic Park is a documentary?

 LOL! I need proof for something that does not exist?

Anyway, as I've told somebody else on this site...if you have to ask questions like this: Then maybe this site isn't for you. 

To prove something does not exist, you try to prove it does. If no proof is found for set item or idea, rationally you do not believe. Doesn't mean 100% it does not exist, it simply means for evidence supplied it does not. The burden of proof does not depend on the non-believer, our proof already exist. The burden to prove something exists depend on the believer. Our proof is there is not proof for him.

As someone already said, the laws of conservation do lead to no god. There is other ways, such as the infinity-free will complex, or emotion complex, which simply states if god has free will, and lived for an eternity, he would of destoried himself. Only a god with no free will could exist. Other then that, all religions are proven false just by testing their claims, it does not mean god doesn't exist, just not there god.

It's not a belief. To believe in something with no evidence is faith, or a better word.. Hope. To not believe because there is no evidence, is rational until said evidence is shown to exist. 

So many replies... and so little factual evidence... First how does the law of conservation disproof the existence of God? You say God could not exist because he isn't made up of matter? What if he is? You say God could not have created man from nothing? But most religous texts say that God simply transformed other matter like the earth on the ground into man. So that does not go against the  law of conservation at all. Besides is the law of conservation or any other scientific law absolute? No! Modern Science recognizes the existence of something called "time-space". So whatever scientific law you may come up with, at best it only holds for this present time-space we are in, and might not hold for other time-spaces. If you say i can only see this time-space so i assume all other time-spaces will look exactly the same and have the same physical laws... than that is a "believe" and not even a "rational" believe. (Although i allready said that i respect the believe of any religions... including yours... and yes there are a LOT of things in the RRS that remind me of a religion).

 The other thing is that you said you discriminate against other religions because other religions abuse their religion to commit violence. That is true... but you have to keep in mind those people  or those Religions are ABUSING, twisting around, and taking out of context their original Scriptures. For example if you use the Bible to examine the behaviour of Bernardo Gui or use the Koran to examine the behaviour of Osama Bin Laden, then you would hardly come to the conclusion that they where good followers of those scriptures.

 While most of you believe in a "scripture" called "The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life". It is also the same book that some other atheist religions like the National Socialists and the Communists believe in. Now you said something like 90% of the deaths now and in the last centurary where caused by people believing in God. I simple have to say this, and it is so obvious that no one will disagree with me: NO. The most deaths now and in the last 100 years where brought about by Communists and National Socialists. According to the "Black Book of Communism" the Communist Party alone slaughtered at least 100 million people. And most of their victims where precisly religious believers. Yet Nazis and commies have done nothing else but putting your afore mentioned "scripture" into action.

436 words without saying a damn thing. You only addressed a few points made and addressed them very poorly to boot. 

Respond to this, then we can have a rational discussion. 

No. God theories suggest god created everything, which the law ridicules. What else is there for a god to be?

The laws of physics say that. I'm just a messenger.

Those religious texts suggest god created the earth in the first place.

Obviously it does.

Prove it. Create matter. Or energy. Or destroy it. Go ahead, you'll win the nobel prize and be remembered for all time. You will have proved god. Plenty of motivation.

Space time is merely the dimensions with which we measure things. Height, length, width, and time.

Now you have to prove there are other space/time realities as well. Good luck. You're making a lot of baseless assertions and suggestions without any logic or reason.

Baseless assertions and ad hominem attacks. You sure fit the profile of a theist. Are you sure you aren't one?

No they aren't. The bible tells people to kill. So does the quran. Have you even read their holy books?

I don't know who Bernardo is and haven't read the quran, so I can't answer this definitively. But it is a moot point either way.

You're spouting pure horse manure now. Evolution is proven fact. Go back to grade school.

YES.

LIAR. I'm going to ignore the rest of your dribble. You've proven yourself a complete moron and liar, and I'll not waste my time with you further.

So if you don't belive me fine. If i don't belive you, then please also accept that. I said what i wanted to say, and you said what you wanted to say. Please stop replying to it now... It is allready at a point where i don't have time to reply to all future comments, and besides if this thread becomes 10 miles long, no one will read it anymore.

"violence in human society in necesarry for developement of society and evolution... that is why it is so dangerous and could cause all the boodshed of the Nazis and Commies."

That's a very common, de-bunked myth about the nature of natural selection. It doesn't always, or even often have anything to do with violence, neither does the term 'survival of the fittest'. 

I think this thread should get moved to Trollville. The Origin of Species doesn't say violence is necessary in human society. And the fact it doesn't address morality doesn't make it dangerous. That's absolute drivel. Most books don't - that is not what science is for. If your insane rant was correct all science books (as well as math, much fiction, art, etc) would be dangerous!

Okay... i kinda said i wouldn't comment anymore... but since that isn't really on the issue, i wanna set two things straight. First i didn't lie when i said that i don't believe in Religions, and  it is YOU guys who labeled me "theist". In your case that really is a label like "attention the following post comes from an enemy of the state,  immedeatly dismiss it and attack" (-:   (just teasing)
 The other thing is... how come none of you americans think that Santa Claus exists? I mean really in Germany i learned in preeschool that St. Nikolaus (Nikolaus is the German word for Santa Claus) is a Christian Saint and was a bishop who lived in turkey around the 4. century and helped many poor Childen. He was very rich, but gave all of his wealth to the poor. During the persecution of christians in the year 310 he was captured and tortured. Now of course whether or not you believe he still exists depends on whether or not you believe in an afterlife and whether or not you beliefe in Saints. Yet that he existed is a fact (In Bari you can even visit his coffin).

"See, how it works is.....when you make a wild claim, you have the responsibility to provide the proof for your wild claim." Right... absolutely... I did not claim Gods exist. But neither did i claim that they don't exist... yet basicly the RRS is claiming that. Otherwise why would you call yourself "rational" and theists "delusional"?

Universal rule of thumb. No proof = non-existence until said proof is provided. The proof is always on the claimant.

Theists believe in something with no proof or evidence, which takes a lot of delusion, or faith as they call it. They claim god exists, they say we can not change them because we need to prove god does not exist, which is not the case. We only claim god does not exist, until further notice or evidence provided. 

Myself I am an agnostic-atheist, I do not claim absolute knowledge god does not exist, however with the evidence towards him being zero, in all likely-hood he does not. Still could, but it's very delusional to take the claim that makes you feel better. 

So...you do believe Santa showed up at your house this past December 25th and left presents?  Okay.   Well.  Perhaps you should look for the anti-Santa website. 

Just wanted to add that this entire thread could have been taken care of if that sticky up there in all caps was read. You know the one that says "THEISM IS IRRATIONAL, THE VIEWS OF OUR COMMUNITY".

 I'm just sayin'...

Every time this "you worship science" thing comes up, I have to laugh.

I never post about it, but I think I've finally had enough. I'm not very science minded. In fact, my atheism has little to nothing to do with any sort of faith in science. I'm usually quite disdainful of most scientific studies that come out. "This food is good for you, oh wait, we messed up, its actualy bad for you, so on and so forth." I truly hate junk science.

But just because I don't fully understand molecular biology, or string theory, or chemistry, doesn't mean I'm just going to go, "well those explanations make no sense to me and can't be proven because I don't get them, so I'll just believe in something else that's easier to believe because there's no pesky science in it." 

This faith in Darwin thing is so retardedly ridiculous, I can't even express how much. Sure, we have some people who are hardcore "believers in science" here, but how that equates to a religion I don't see. Scripture is by it's nature unquestionable and considered "perfect" already. Science, in itself, is a long ongoing process of questioning the reality around us. Testing and retesting, and attempting to dis-prove previous theories, and sometimes proving them. The best scientists are the ones who question authority and prove something new. People who question the previous theories wouldn't make very good priests I think.

I don't need to believe in black holes or the big bang to not have a belief in any gods. 

I give you nylon:

Nylon: Fabricated substance. Invented in the 1930's. Does not exist in nature.

In 1975, bacteria were discovered that had evolved to consume this polymer that didn't exist until the 1930's.

Actually, darwin supplied, and based evolution on what he observed. It was not a claim, just an observation and hypothesis. Later, after his death and on-words the people who then claimed evolution to be true looked for more evidence then what was already supplied. It became a theory, now it regarded as a fact due to mountains of evidence. If darwin lived now, and first let out his hypothesis, I would regard it as false until proven true. However since the theory was refined and proven, I do not have to, since I can say it's fact because it was proven fact.

However the bible has no reproducable, retestable evidence, nor does any other holy text. Nor does any god claim, resulting in no proof at all. People like you did not even bother, or take a miniute out of the day to check on your claims, against our facts. You simply deny what you don't want to believe, even if it was proven.

Btw, should this not be in trollsville by now?