1. If Jesus fulfilled all the OT prophecies so well, why didn't the Jews recognize him as the messiah? - Francois Tremblay

Because the Messiah was also prophesied to be rejected by his own people and to be make himself a sacrifice for the sins of others (Isaiah chapter 52-33, and the later portions of daniel).

2. If Gen 3:24 is true, why hasn't anyone found the Cherubims and the " flaming sword which turned every way"?

It's called Noah's Flood (it's a few chapters later in Jesus)... and there was a resulting land reconfiguration (the earth was divide)... Needless to say after continental shift and really huge flood the landscape isn't the same and the Garden of Eden is long gone

3. It's been proven that modern humans originated from Africa. Yet, the Adam and Eve story claims the first Humans lived in a garden in Eden, near 4 rivers. ( Most of which no one can find). One of these rivers mentioned is the Euphrates, which runs through Iraq, Syria and a portion of Turkey. What's the truth? Did man come out of Africa or near the Euphrates River? - The Infidel Guy

What proof is this that modern humans came from Africa? Now there is proof that modern humans can all be traced back to one female ancestor (mitochondria eve) and one male ancestor (y-chromosome Adam).

4. When the believer gets to Heaven, how can Heaven be utter bliss when people they love and care about are burning in Hell ? - The Infidel Guy - [Note: Some say God erases your memories of them, but if God erases your memory, you as Mr. Joe /Jane Smoe ceases to exist.]

How can someone get over a lost loved one? Not sure but it happens... time heals old wounds.

5. How can a God have emotions, i.e. jealousy, anger, sadness, love, etc., if he is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent? Emotional states are reactionary for the most part. How can God react to us if he is all-knowing and has a divine plan? - IG [Note: Indeed, many religious texts display their gods this way . Listen to the An Emotional Godshow.]

If people screw up their own lives why can't God has feelings (people have them afterall). Surely, you must have felt bad seeing someone squander their potential, (why can't God feel the same)

6. Why would God create a place such as hell to torture sinners forever when he foreknew who would disappoint him? - IG [Note: Some say you have a choice, but this misses the point. If God hates sin so much, why create Adam and Eve when he knew they'd sin? The only conclusion I can come up with, if Yaweh exists, is that he wanted sin to enter the world.]

Freewill, let those who want to serve him go one way and those who don't want to serve him and rather selfishly seeks their own wants.

7. "God is all merciful, " we hear quite often. Wouldn't it be more merciful of God to simply snap sinners out of existence rather than send them to hell? Or better yet, since he's all-knowing, not allow them to be born at all? - IG

ON GOD'S LOVE & HELL

1.) God's love is superlative.

2.) God's love of man exceeds man's love of self.

3.) Man's love of self prohibits torture.

4.) Considering God's greater love for us, Hell (eternal torture) is illogical.

Again God gives man choice... God is loving but he is also just, again free choice (punishing them by not allowing to be born violates that)

8 didn't apply.

9. Why haven't we seen God reattach severed heads, restore someone who was burned alive or regrow amputated limbs? Surely these would be miracles difficult to deny. - Adam Majors and IG [Note: The typical answer is that man doesn't dictate God's actions. The conundrum here however is that, if God wants us to "know" him, then surely feats such as those mentioned above would be happening all over the world. Until they do, I'll remain an atheist.]

Research has been done which shows that people who pray for recovery from diseases are more likely to heal... So what's your point again???

10. Why does God entrust the spreading of 'His' word to sinners? Why doesn't he do it himself? - IG [Note: Surely God would have known that not everyone would be convinced by the reality[sic] of his Bible. If God loves us so much, we are all going to Heaven. If God knew that I would be an atheist, and he doesn't like atheists, he shouldn't have allowed me to come into existence. But he did. Therefore, I must be serving the will of God, for I exist. ]

Why does a father decide to take his little kids and work on the car with them. They aren't any help and are usually a delay and a hinderance. Maybe he wants to have a bonding experience by sharing his interests with them???

11. In II Kings 2-23/24 we read about God sending 2 she-bears to attack children for calling the prophet Elisa bald, which he was, the bears killed 42 of the children. Was this a good thing to do? -- Brandon and IG[Note: I have heard some argue that the boys were a gang. So?! I didn't read anywhere in that passage where they laid a finger on the guy . Also, what kind of bears are these that can kill 42 kids? Super Bears? Surely the kids had to be running away.]

Umm don't underestimate the power of bears... Black bears have been known to rip the doors off cars... and running from the bears (instead of defending yourself) doesn't help.

12. I have often heard from many believers that even Satan has a presence in the church, which is why even in church people can still have impure thoughts. If Satan can find his way in the church, how do Christians know that Satan didn't find his way into the Bible and twist the whole book? After all, men did vote on which books would make the Holy Bible. - The Infidel Guy

God can preserve however much of the bible that he wants to... although there have been extremely poor translations and medieval additions (the vast majority if not all of this has been fixed by the protestant reformation)

13. Why did God allow Lot and his daughters to escape from Sodom and Gomorra when he destroyed it only to later have Lot and his daughters engage in incestuous fornication. (Genesis 19:30-36) - Disillusioned [Note: To have intercourse with daddy dearest of course.]

Because Lot was a righteous man and God was making a point that when he judges he doesn't destroy the righteous with the wicked. Furthermore, Lot's daughters took advantage of their father after they got him super drunk. If you slip a pill in a girls drink then take her unconscious body home and rape her does that count as consent?

14. Genesis 1:28-29 shows that man and all the animals were first created herbivorous. Most young-earth Christians (ones that believes the earth is less than 10, 000 years old) say that the fall of man resulted in carnivorous animals ( hence death of animals). So, why did God punish the animal kingdom, making animals kill and devour each other because of man's mistake? Or, if you're an old-earth Christian (one that accepts that animals existed on earth for billions of years before man came on the scene) then how come fossils show carnivorous animals existed before man? - http://www.caseagainstfaith.com/contact.htm.

If you believe in flood geology you don't believe that the lowest layers of rock equal the oldest creatures and you don't believe the highest layers equal the youngest.

15. Many Christians believe that God is a thinking being, that he solves problems and makes a way for them when troubles come. Does God Think? If God is thinking, did he know his thoughts before he thought them? If so, again, where is his freewill and how is God thinking at all if everything seems to be one uncontrollable action/thoughts. - The Infidel Guy [Note: I'd say a God cannot think at all. To do so, would strip him of omniscience. Thinking is a temporal process.] ON GOD'S ATEMPORALITY

1.) God, an atemporal being, created the Universe.

2.) Creation is a temporal processes because X cannot cause Y to come into being unless X existed temporally prior to Y.

3.) If God existed prior to the creation of the Universe he is a temporal being.

4.) Since God is atemporal, God cannot be the creator the Universe.

[Note: I guess I should also note here that a timeless being would be without the proposition of past, and future. But to be omniscient, God must know the past and future. Hence a God that is atemporal and omniscient cannot logically exist. ]

You aren't making sense with this one... God created the universe end of point...

16. I have often heard that faith is all that is neccessary to believe in God and accept the Bible as true. If this is true aren't all supernatural beliefs true since they also require "faith"? - IG ON FAITH

1.) A prerequisite to believe in a Faith is faith.
2.) Having faith is all that is required to accept a Faith (belief) as true.
3.) All Faiths are true.

[Note: Of course all Faiths aren`t true, but this is the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from a person that states that, "Faith" is how one knows God.]

According to Christianity one is justified by faith in God and Jesus (and his sacrifice for your sins)... Other beliefs have other means to be justified (I haven't heard of any others being based solely on faith)

17. Why didn't God just kill Adam and Eve after the Fall and start from scratch? Actually, if God is all-knowing wouldn't he know that man would need to be killed eventually anyway, (the biblical flood)? Why create Adam and Eve at all? - and ON THE GARDEN OF EDEN

1.) God is omniscient (all-knowing).
2.) God knew that before he created man that they would eat of the tree of knowledge.
3.) God placed the tree of knowledge in the Garden anyway.
4.) God wanted sin to enter the world.

[Note: If God didn`t want sin to enter the world, why create Adam and Eve at all? He knew what would happen. Why place the forbidden trees in the Garden in the first place?]

Because God wanted beings with freewill even if the choose incorrectly, besides weren't you just complaining about God not being merciful enough??? make up your mind?

18. If a spirit is non-physical but the human body is physical, how does a spirit stay in our bodies? - IG ON SPIRITS

1.) Spirits are not physical entities.
2.) Brains are physical entities.
3.) Past experiences are stored in our physical brains, we call that, Memory..
4.) Injury can damage portions of the physical brain that store memory and can alter or erase memories completely.
5.) If human spirits exist... after death, spirits can have no memory.

[Note: Some will say the spirit stores physical memories as well, but if true, the spirit would have to be physical at least to a degree. How could a non-physical spirit store, physical memories?]

How is it that humans have a conscious awareness of their surroundings... nothing can account for this, computers don't have it. Why don't humans just be like computers (avoid p[pain]), seek pl[pleasure]... why does pain have to hurt so damn much and pleasure make you moan. People are more than biomechanisms... deal with it.

How is it that humans have a conscious awareness of their surroundings... nothing can account for this, computers don't have it.

why does pain have to hurt so damn much and pleasure make you moan.

19. Does God know his own future decisions? If God is all-knowing he actually shouldn't have any decisions to make at all. Nor can he choose anything over something else. For that would mean that he is neither omniscient nor omnipotent. In fact, he can't even think if this is the case. Since he can't DO anything, he might as well not exist. - IG ON GOD'S IMMUTABILITY - Unchangingness

1. If God exists, then he is immutable.
2. If God exists, then he is the creator of the universe.
3. An immutable being cannot at one time have an intention and then at a later time not have that intention.
4. For any being to create anything, prior to the creation he must have had the intention to create it, but at a later time, after the creation, no longer have the intention to create it.
5. Thus, it is impossible for an immutable being to have created anything (from 3 and 4).
6. Therefore, it is impossible for God to exist (from 1, 2, and 5) - Theodore M. Drange

Again you aren't making sense... God had the intention to create the universe, he created it (goal accomplished)... further intention to create the universe no longer required.

20. If God is all-knowing, how could he be disappointed in His creation? -- [Note: Indeed, wouldn't God know that before the creation of our Universe what creatures would disappoint him? That being the case why create those creatures at all? Also, in knowing absolutely the behavior of humans before creation, God cannot be disappointed either... for this world is exactly as he has planned it to be. If it's not, why create us at all?]

Have you ever known in advance someone would let your down (gf, friend) we all have... but it still sucks nevertheless.

21. God struck down the Tower of Babel angry at the intent of the people that built them, if this is the case, many of the great pyramids ( which are bigger than any ziggurat) around the world should be rubble also, yet many still stand today. Were not the Egyptians and many other ancient pyramid builders reaching toward God /The Heavens? - IG [Note: In actuality, many of the Pharaoh's believed that, via their pyramids, they would become God's themselves.]

Well that and too much of humanity was settling in a given location and he wanted to scatter them.

22. In the watchmaker analogy, a watch is used to show us intelligent design and compares that to the Universe as evidence of design. We know watches are designed because we have past experience with watches, as well as with other man made objects. My question is: What Universe is the Intelligent Design proponent using to compare this Universe with to draw such an analogy? What God did he see create a Universe? - IG

It's usually a comparison to living systems (a reproducing organism/life in it's most basic form, the mammalian antibody-immune response, the blood clotting cascade, etc). All of the above involve several if not many well interlocked, and interconnected well tuned mechanisms that couldn't be arrived at gradually.

Because if you missed on mechanism or any of them didn't work at a high level of the specific function than the whole system wouldn't work and be useless).

Although you can say the universe is pretty well tuned... Gravity isn't so strong that universe is a giant black hole, yet isn't so weak that the universe would instantly superexpand into heat death. The strong nuclear force is strong enough that elements larger much than hydrogen (helium, oxygen, carbon, potassium, magnesium, iron, etc) can exist, etc.

23. Why did God flood the earth to remove evil? It didn't work! Evil came right back, God should have known that would happen! So why did He bother? - PhineasBg [Note: A good example of how quickly sin returned, was Noah getting drunk just after they discovered land.]

Yeah it can back but it took a while, think of it as pruning...

24. If the garden of Eden was a perfect paradise as xians claim, then why did Eve even want to eat the fruit? Wouldn't a perfect place provide everything a person would want or desire and thus she would want nothing? - keyser soze [Note: Why were the trees there in the first place? Of course they love to throw the serpent into the equation. But ummm..who let the serpent into the Garden?... and why would God create such a creature knowing he would cause man's fall? Hmm.. God must have wanted the fall to happen.]

The grass is greener on the other side... In regards to Satan... again freewill

25. Why would an all-powerful god become flesh in order to sacrifice himself to himself so that his creation might escape the wrath of himself. Couldn't god, in his infinite wisdom, come up with something a little more efficient? - ON THE BODY OF CHRIST

1.) God?s flesh was known as Jesus.
2.) Flesh cannot enter into Heaven (according to Paul)
3.) God is no longer Jesus.
4.) Jesus doesn?t exist.

You are trying too hard... God wanted to have a better relationship with man... and there really is alot to say about walking a mile in someone else's shows. Jesus lived the perfect life (which is why he was able to get into heaven... other flesh [you and me] can't make that claim). Jesus died for our sins... painful but also demonstrative of God's love

26. After 9/11 a lot of people have been tossing around " god bless america". Why do they keep saying this? From the looks of it god hasn't blessed anything. If god had blessed america, the 9/11 event would've never happened. Theists seem to give the answer of "everything is part of gods big plan". If everything is part of gods big plan, why are we after Bin Laden? Wasn't he and other terrorists just carrying out gods desired plan? So it seems that Bin Laden/ terrorism isnt our enemy, but god . - [Note: Unfortunately many religious nuts believe they are fulfilling their God's plan by going to war.]

This is becoming more a rant isn't it... Maybe they aren't saying "God Bless America" not as reality but as a prayer "God Bless America" (I love the land, it's my home, please bless it).

27. Christians say that God is NOT the author of confusion. Can you say, Tower of Babel? - The Screaming Monkeys

Again to redistribute humanity, into given languages and thus divide them (and most linguists believe that humans originally had one language)

28. If Noah's flood supposedly covered the earth for a year, regardless of whether or not all the animals could fit on the ark, what the heck happened to all the plants? Can you imagine a cactus surviving under 4 miles of water for a year? I can't either! - Kyle Giblet [Note: With God all things are possible. Oh wait, except in Judges 1:19.]

You would be surprised how long seeds can survive... Functional wheat seeds have been found in the tombs of egyptian pharoahs (from 4000 years ago)

29. The highest rainfall ever recorded in a 24 hour period was 47inches in the Reunion Islands in 1947 (during a severe tropical storm). To cover the whole earth to a depth of 5.6 miles, and cover the mountain tops (i.e. Mount Everest), it would need to rain at a rate of 372 (three hundred and seventy two) inches per hour, over the entire surface of the earth. Can rain fall at such an astronomical rate? Where did all the water come from?? Where did it all go to??? And would not the dynamics of the earth be so out of balance (tides etc.) that the earth would become so unstable that it would wobble off into outer space???? -

You are assuming that the geography of earth was the same then as it is now. However, if there were no deep ocean trenchs and basins... nor really high mountains... then it would only take the amount of water now on the surface. According to Creationists the whole surface of the earth changed from shallow hills and valleys, to mountains and deep ocean trenches.

30. Doesn't Apply

31. In the "Last Days" Jesus is supposed to appear in the clouds. How are the Christians on the opposite end of the world going to see him? Are there going to be millions of Jesus'? What about people that work underground? What about people in deep space? -

God can work out the details... and there is such a thing called television... btw... and the international space station isn't deep space by any stretch of the imagination

32. The Bible says that God is a jealous God . How is this an example of a moral absolute of which man is supposed to follow? - IG ON GOD`S JEALOUSY

1.) "God is love." 1 John 4:8.
2.) "Love is not jealous." 1 Cor 13:4
3.) "I, the Lord thy God, am a jealous God." Exodus 20:5.
4.) The Christian god cannot logically exist.

(NOte: Basically love is NOT jealous, yet god is jealous, then God can`t be love. But if god IS love he cannot be jealous. Be he is.)

Inadequate English translation... God want's what is rightfully his... just like we expect our wives and girlfriends not to cheat on us.

33. Doesn't Apply

34. If the earth was covered by a complete global flood, every living creature killed except those surviving on the ark, why are there many completely unique animal species in Australia that are found no where else indigenously on the earth? -

Australia has a unique climate and as such the unique species were able to survive there and not in other areas (post-flood)

35. If god is omniscient and " god is love, " why would he allow a child to be conceived, knowing that that child would one day reject him and spend eternity burning in a lake of fire?- TiredTurkeyProd

Freewill and justice... refer to earlier postings

36. Revelations is supposed to take place on Earth. What if we colonize the moon or Mars or inhabit a self-sustaining space station? Do we escape "judgement"? -- Ray Sommers [Note: No we don't Ray... and of course we all know that if there is any intelligent life out there besides us, they are all going to Hell too. ]

I'm not seeing that happen anytime soon, but in revelations it says that 1/3 of the heavens will go dark as well as other things that happen which effect the physical universe... If there are people on Mars (and that's a really big if) then they will probably suffer different plagues.

37. Isaiah 40:28 says, "...the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is he weary?" If this is true, why did God rest on the seventh day?- IG

Because he was done making stuff, and he wanted to set the precedent for a human weekend.

38. Everytime I go to a funeral the preacher and guests always say that " God " has called that person to Heaven or they say, " God said it was time to come home", or some such variation. If God is calling these people "home", why are we putting the murderers of these victims in prison? How can we punish a man or woman for doing God's will? - IG

It may be God's will that people ultimately die, but it's not his will that people commit acts of evil. It was God's will the man died, but that doesn't justify the choice of his murderer.

39. Does God have a gender? In most churches, God is predominately referred to as a "he"? - IG [Note: The Bible says God is male, but what does this mean? Does God have a penis? Does he have hormones that dictate his gender? ]

"It" is relatively impersonal, if you can think of a personal gender neutral equivalent of he... then feel free

40. Why can't we wait until we get to Heaven to worship God ? Why would it be too late? - IG

Not getting you... we can worship God here or there... and many people do

41. What is the purpose of prayer? What can a finite being on Earth possibly tell an omnipotent, omniscient deity that he doesn't know already? - IG ON PRAYER

1.) Humans can?t change God?s mind for he has a divine plan and is unchangeable.
2.) Prayer can't change God's mind.
3.) Prayer doesn't change anything.
(Prayer may make you feel better emotionally, but it doesn`t change God`s mind.)

That's why Jesus said to keep your prayers short (God already knows everything), still it's also an opportunity for people to listen and be honest with themselves.

42. Some say Jesus was the all-knowing God. Jesus would have known then that when he died he'd be in heaven in less than 3 days to rule. If Jesus is alive and ruling today, what did he sacrifice? -- Cyndy Hammond

Um he was subject to a life of scorning, mocking, and humiliation, culminating in a traumatic and painful death... What did he sacrifice??? I'll let you answer that

43. God knows that men are sinners, untrustworthy and evil, why does God leave it up to fallible man (clergy..etc) to teach others about his word? Why would he put our eternal souls at risk if he loves us so much? - The Infidel Guy and Danno778

You are repeating them now... (Refer back to question 10)

44. Did Adam have nipples? If so, how did he acquire them? In fact, why would God give "later man" nipples at all? They serve no purpose other than lactation. Some say pleasure. Where is that in Genesis exactly? All mammals have nipples as well, are theirs pleasureful for them too? Many men don't find their nipples pleasurable at all. - IG

It's genetically efficient to give both the sexes nipples and breasts (although the male ones aren't an obstruction)... It's also genetically efficient to give the sexs, two eyes, two ears, two arms and two legs.

45. How did Adam and Eve know it was wrong to disobey God if they hadn't eaten of the tree of knowledge (of good and evil) yet? You can't blame them if they didn't know. - IG

God told them that if they ate of the tree they would die... it's the only thing he didn't want them to do and he let it be known. Simple command, but they didn't follow it.

46. If God has such a tremendous problem with uncircumcised penises, why did he make man with foreskin in the first place? - IG [Note: Some say, "So God can recognize his chosen people." Recognize? Is God so stupid that he has to physically look at men's penises? If not God, do other men need to? lol.]

Why do most parents get their children circumcised? The foreskin is a pain in the ass and requires alot of cleaning. Sex is more pleasurable with it... but that's the only benefit. Circumcision was a rite in which the person said they would not live after the flesh (symbolised by the removal of part of the flesh which symbolizes living after the flesh).

Per new testament for the gentiles... it's no big deal either way whether you are circumcised or not (it was only a command specific to Jewish culture).

47. Did Noah have fish onboard? Salt or Fresh? Since fresh water fish would die in salt, and salt water fish would die in fresh, only one type of fish would survive. Yet....?" - Frank Monaco

Or you just had fish at that time which were mostly capable of living in both (many species of fish are known to spawn in fresh water and live in salt water (salmon for instance). Perhaps there were both shallow seas and shallow lakes before the flood???

48. Why does the omnipotent, omnipresent God need help from man or angels to spread his word or do acts? - IG [Note: Some say God doesn't need help. But apparently he does.] - IG

God it's the third time he has asked that question... go back to 10...

49. How did Jesus ascend to Heaven in the Flesh when Paul says that flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of Heaven? (1 Cor.15:50) - IG [Note: Some say, well Paul said that and not Jesus. Yet they quote Paul when it suits there purposes.]

Another repeat... Again Jesus was sinless... thus entering heaven wasn't an issue.

50. If God wants us to live right and choose "the good, " why did he create evil? (Isaiah 45:6, 7) Not to mention he already knows which people are not going to choose "the good" so why create those people in the first place? It seems that many people are born to go to Hell. - IG ON HELL

1.) God is all-knowing.
2.) Before I was born God knew I wouldn?t believe in him.
3.) I was born to go to Hell.

(Sure you may say I have a choice, but I think I`ve proven already that I really don`t. I`m simply fulfilling the will of God by being an atheist aren`t I? If I`m not, I shouldn`t exist: For God would have known that before I was created that I wouldn`t believe in him.)

Bordering on a repeat... free will

51. I hear Christians all the time speaking of a spiritual war between Heaven and Hell, if this is true does God have limitations of power? Man only conducts wars because of our limitations of power and foresight. God has both all-power and all-knowledge, no reason for war of any kind. - IG

God is allowing the conflict for the purposes of free will, when everyone has chosen sides to his satisfaction, the game ends.

52. The Bible is full of phrases beginning with, "and the lord saw". Didn't he know before hand? - IG

He did, but he also acted at the appropriate time (you know at or right after the appropriate event)

53. How can a psychologist condone belief in something not proven to exist, when people are put into mental institutions on a daily basis for the same thing? i.e. aliens, fairies, imaginary people (Multiple Personality Disorders..)? - Dan Denton [Note: I'm sure that some of the pious believe that they are improperly placed there as well Dan. ]

Intelligent design plain and simple. It depends on what your believe is "proven to exist". Everything mechanical in this world (planes, trains, automobiles) was designed... It's a simple extrapolation to come to the conclusion of God.

54. If Christians say they know God exists and that he will work miracles, what do they need faith for? Faith is not knowing. - IG

Faith is belief plain and simple... I believe in the existence of the President of China (even though I've never met him), I believe in the existence of Russian Mafia (even though I've never met them either)

55. Brain, or shall I say, body transplants, will eventually be possible, where would the soul be then? Where is the soul? - IG

Refer back to 18

56. If God really wants us to know him, why doesn't he place the knowledge of him in our minds at birth? The same way many theists believe that God implants our sense of right and wrong in us a right birth. - IG

Again that wouldn't allow free will

57. If God was Jesus' father (not Joseph), then why is Jesus' family tree traced through Joseph? -- Cyndy Hammond

Because Joseph was the step-father of Jesus and Jesus's legal succession to the throne of David went through Joseph (who was a decent of David, Solomon and a whole line of Jewish Kings)

58. What image of God was man made from? Couldn't have been a moral one or physical one. - IG [Note: One would suspect that an image of God would be perfect and cannot sin. Oops.]

Man was made the from the moral image of God (is creative, has free-will). Obviously a good deal of that has been tainted by the fall, and subsequent genetic degradation of the human race

59. Why can't God appear before everyone at the same time? Everyone in the world would then "know" he exists and not have solely "believe". And please, don't say he already tried that. Surely a God knows exactly what to do to convince a measly human of his existence. - IG

Again it messes with free will

60. According to the New Testament Matthew 5:17 says "Do not suppose that I have come to abolish the Law and the prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to complete. I tell you this: so long as heaven and earth endure, not a letter, not a stroke, will disappear from the Law until all that must happen has Happened." So since Jesus has not returned the "Law" is still in effect, so why aren't we still burning witches, stoning adulterers and disobedient children, killing homosexuals, ostracizing people that work on the Sabbath (nurses, doctors etc.), flinging blood onto the horns of the alter, pulling off the heads of small birds, and don't forget human sacrifice to God (Leviticus 27 P.28 )? -- Sheila L. Chambers

God never approved of human sacrifices... I challenge you to find such a passage. Neverless the old testament has been superceded by the new testament (kosher laws for example are no longer in effect per the book of acts)

61. If there is freewill in Heaven yet everyone has chosen good and is happy, isn't that proof that God could have made us with freewill, choosing good ( God ) and still being happy on Earth? - Dennis Hendrix [Note: In other words, evil didn't have to exist after all. Hey wait, even in Heaven apparently, evil can exist. At least for a short while. Satan became evil and was in heaven. Apparently he even had enough time to form an Army against God. Wow. Maybe Heaven won't be as peaceful as many believe.]

I'm amazed how many people have problems with free will. When Jesus seperates the results of his allowing of sentient life to have free will (the christians and anti-christians)... then we will have peace... till then there will be conflict.

62. Why does God have a plan? Man is limited in power so we make plans because we are not all-knowing nor all-powerful. If God has a plan, isn't he reduced to a mere finite being? - IG

People make plans to organize things (power does effect if you can succesfully carry out your plan or not).

63. How could the all-merciful/loving God watch billions of his children burn over and over again for eternity? - IG [Note: Of course this is geared to those that believe in a fiery hell. I am well aware that not all Christians believe in a fiery Hell.]

Free will and Justice... this is getting repetitive

64. Before reading and writing were invented (5000BC), on what basis did God use to judge the people who died before the Hebrew and Greek text (BIBLE) were written? -- [Note: They are all roasting in Hell. ]

Oral tradition, and general natural revelation

65. Many Christians tell me that I will "burn in hell". If I have a soul, how can a soul burn? Aren't souls non-physical entities? - IG [Note: Some Christians groups believe that you will be given new bodies after judgement. However, if true, what's the significance of a spirit in the first place?]

Hell is also dark, think longer term visual sensory deprivation.

66. How can one hold to the barbaric belief that something has to DIE in order to appease a god for a bad deed? -- Nickolaus Wing [Note: Because an old book says so Nick.]

Because people still hold to the "barbaric" belief in justice... people who commit the crime have to do the time.

67. Why does SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) occur? Why would God allow a baby to live for such a short period of time? Why not just let them not be born in the first place? -- Terry Clark [Note: This actually happened to a friend of mine. Not even God himself could console her.]

Bad things happen, test of faith, etc.

68. If Jesus was nailed and died on Friday evening, and walked out of the tomb on Sunday morning, where's the 3rd NIGHT he predicted? Per Matthew 12:40: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. -

Friday, Saturday, Sunday = Three days

69. Many Christians claim that hell is merely existence outside of God ?s presence (C.S. Lewis among others). If this is the case, then Jesus could not have descended into hell (being God Himself). As a result, are you sure your sins are forgiven? - Byron Bultsma

He didn't go into gehenna, he went into abrahams bosom... misconception of scripture.

70. Ten to twenty percent of all women who discover they are pregnant suffer a miscarriage. Also, it is estimated that anywhere from 14 to 50 percent of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. Seeing this is all part of God 's plan, does this make God the world's number one abortion provider? - Jim

People carry in their bodies the accumulating defects that have resulted from the fall and subsequent genetic drift. In approximately 200, 000 years if the degradation continues at the present rate males will no longer exist.

71. What if, when you get to Heaven, you saw God causing pain and suffering out of anger or for the purpose of entertaining himself. What if he required people in heaven to praise and worship him non-stop even to the point of causing his worshipers discomfort, pain and boredom. What if, when he was bored, angry, or jealous, he would create natural disasters to make himself feel better. Would you still follow him? - Fernando [Note: Of course they would Fernando, many people followed Hitler out of fear as well.]

Nobody believes God is like that... next...

72. In Leviticus, the bible condemns homosexuality as an "abomination", giving some Christians a reason to hate, harass, torture and kill gays and even picket their funderals with " God hates fags" signs. In the same book of the bible the eating of shellfish is equally an "abomination". Are these Christians planning to go after the patrons of Red Lobster next? - [Note: hee-hee, that's all I can say. Jewish Law states that eating Fish without scales is an abomination and thus the Shark is one among the list. However, sharks do have scales, Placoid scales, one of the many reasons why a shark is called a Fish .]

The levitical dietary law is superceded by God's command to eat non-kosher in acts. The condemnation of homosexuality (although no longer carrying a death sentence) was reaffirmed by the apostle Paul in several locations, and implicitedly reaffirmed by Jesus in his comments regarding marriage

73. Christians will tell you that if a baby dies it goes to heaven. Why then are they so against abortion? All the child is being deprived of is the opportunity to go to hell. Either that or god expects unborn fetuses to accept Jesus. -

Because people are murdering those babies

74. If one could prove to you incontrovertibly that Jesus and God were all human fabrications would still believe? And why? - LOGICnREASON [Note: If you say yes. Then you are not concerned with the truth, you simply WANT to believe; and if you WANT to believe, indeed, there is nothing anyone can tell you..]

I haven't seen anybody prove incontrovertibly that Jesus and God are human fabrications... next...

75. It is often said that God allows evil because one could not meaningfully appreciate good without experiencing its opposite. Why is it necessary to experience the opposite of something in order to appreciate it? Must I experience death in order to meaningfully appreciate life? -excidius

You often don't know the value of something till you lose it or experience the alternative... Moreover evil/suffering allows human choice and the manifestation of love (because the manifestation of love is sacrifice)

76. Bible literalists want you to believe that God's Word in the Bible is meant to be taken literally. If this is the case, why was Jesus fond of explaining things in parable and metaphor? Was Jesus literally discussing the biology of mustard seeds, or was the mustard seed parable meant to be interpreted figuratively as faith? -excidius

Would you take a Los Angeles Times article literally or figuratively? If God wants his word to be taken literally he will let you know.

77. Liberal Christians say some parts of the Bible are literally true, but much else is to be interpreted figuratively as allegory. How do you know which is which? What distinguishing criteria are used? How can you be certain "God" is a literal and not a figurative concept? -excidius

This is problem serious christians have with liberal "christians".

78. Consciousness is the result of a physical brain, how could God being metaphysical be said to be conscious or sentient without having a brain? - Mindless

Scientists don't know why we have consciousness or how it comes about... computers don't have it why do we? In fact half of scientists who study this area believe we don't (silly but true)

79. Considering how Leviticus is considered old law, and that Christians do not obey it anymore, why do they always use it to defend homosexuality being an "abomination"? -Bohorquez

Refer back to 72

80. If God is omnipotent and he has a plan ... then why did he not create the universe as it will be one second after the plan has succeeded? Who or what prevented him from doing that? - Timothy Campbell (http://www.tc123.com)

God wanted a fair number of people that would freely choose to have a relationship with him on his terms. When God has accomplished that goal to his satisfaction he will move on.

81. The large majority of people who have ever existed could not have learned of the Bible or Jesus Christ. And many people afterwards have found other religions or no religion at all to be more convincing, sometimes while being very virtuous. Do all these people really deserve eternal torment because of that? -- lpetrich

People will be judged based at least in part on what they know

82. The above arguments also apply among different sects of Christianity, many of which state that most others are not True Christianity. -- lpetrich

Refer to 81

83. Is it reasonable for the Creator and Ruler of such a vast Universe to be preoccupied with the sexuality of a species living on a tiny little planet? -- lpetrich

It is if those people are having sex with the wrong sex/disordered behavior. God also has the right to be concerned about incest and pedophilia.

84. If the Christian god was all loving and all knowing why did he let religious figures such as Mohammed or Gautama Budda be born, knowing that they would mislead people from the 'true' faith and trick the majority of the world's population into burning forever in hell (in fact, if Islam didn't start, most of the middle east would probably be Christian). It would simple to use the Holy Spirit to guide them to Jesus and spread the 'true' faith. If the Holy Spirit exits, it certainly isn't doing it's job!

Who said that all of what Mohammed and Buddah said was false. Perhaps Christianity could only spread to a certain area in a certain time because of cultural considerations (the arabs and persians were enemies of the romans who had embraced christianity).

Thus God in a way wins if he allows other belief systems to come into existence that are closer to the truth than the belief systems they replace. Plus you have to take into account the adage that power corrupts... thus by ensuring competition, some purity is ensured in each respective religion.).

85. If one is obliged to follow all the teachings of the bible then why is engaging in homosexuality or adultery any worse than "suffering a witch to live", "muzzling the ox that treadeth the corn", "reaping the corners of thy field", "marring the corners of they beard", "plowing with an oxen and an ass", "hating thy brother in thy heart" or "eating frogs, shellfish and eels" ?

Refer to 72

86. Exactly how did the alleged worldwide flood kill off all the world's sea creatures? How does one go about drowning a fish? -- Steever

Didn't I just read something about salt and fresh water stuff not surviving??? Make up your mind..

No not all sea creatures would die... although a massive onslaught of water... would kill quite a few (God is focusing on wiping out landlife with the flood).

87. Why did this alleged god create humans as an animal form of life that gets sick and dies and experiences pain and has a limited mind when 'it' could have created humans as a form of pure energy or of some indestructible material or whatever, and was totally ?sinless? and had ?pure? thought? If a god was omnipotent 'it' could have easily have done this. --AI

Free will... plus suffering facilitates stuff like love and sacrifice

88. If a god is omnipotent how did 'it' fail to foresee that Satan would turn against 'it'? --AI

He didn't fail to foresee it, but allowed him too for the purpose of freewill

dominick_777 wrote:

4 questions for the questioners..

1) What happens if a personal can answer these in a reasonable way, that should be acceptable to anyone who follows the principles of reason?

If they could answer all of them, they'd have done an awfully good job proving Yahweh, exists.

I don't know about that. I think that one must use a worldview to intepret particulars they observe, and if its already a materialism/naturalism that is there no matter how much positive proof you give, itll be interpreted throughout those goggles/worldview lenses. I think its best to disprove materialism and naturalism FIRST prior to giving positive proof..but for those that don't hold to atheism or a strong anti theism, as an honest agnostic, perhaps Ill attempt to answer these for that reading audience.

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2) Would the people asking these questions suddenly change their minds from non theism to at very least theism if that happens?

I personally would formulate more questions, however if the above questions could be answered well I'd have to admit that the bible was more plausible then I give it credit for.

Fair enough.

Why bother asking the above two moot questions? For 6 years we've proposed these questions and they remain on the list because they've never been answered well. Would you care to answer a single one of them or just debate the results of what a succesful answer would do?

Well even if they have been answered that doesnt by necessity mean that 1) the reader(s) in this place understand them as reasonable even though the answers may infact be reasonable 2) It doesnt of necessity mean that there not answerable because you've "waiting" 6 years and havent seen one.

Not finding water for a dire thrist doesnt mean there is no water anywhere, but on the contrary I would argue that any real need (not mere desire) implies a real way to fullfill that need, since people including the greatest skeptics and atheists have expressed a REAL NEED for God, I think it follows that there must be a real God that exists to fullfill that need..else Nietzches statment that his view is a cruel view, would make no sense unless there was a real way to fullfill that need. To say there are no real faries for ones want for them to be real isnt cruel because there are no faries..but to say there is no water anywhere for your real thirst would be cruel because there really is water out there..even if someone dies in the process of trying to find it.

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3) Or are these being asked for no real reason..implying the questioners arent really interested in reason or truth?

I hope you don't really think that, and you're merely probing for a chance to stomp on someone's stupidity. I do find it ironic that the folks who believe in the bible seem to not be interested in reason or the truth, yet you're asking "us" this question.

Im not trying to probe for stupidity, I think its an honest question. Many a times people ask qustions for other reasons OTHEr than finding an answer..they sometimes do it inorder to distract one from a real issue, others do it inorder to somehow express theres no answer, thus I think its a valid question and I hope it allows someone to check their reasons for asking questions in the first place..is it done for the sake of asking questions, which i think my question DIRECTLY reffers to, OR are you asking questions inorder to find answers..IE do you have a point or not in asking your questions here?

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4) What would you say is an appropriate criteria you think is fair in answering one two or all of these?

It's not up to me to figure out how someone could appropriatly answer these questions. If I knew how that could be done, I wouldn't have to ask them. I've seen these questions debated for a very long time and I've seen people come close but I can look to no example of what is a reasonable appropriate answer to solving these "riddles/questions."

I think that also is a real valid question. If you have no idea as to what youre looking for, why ask the question? Furthermore, if you dont take time to envision what the answer couldnt be, vs could be, I dont see how you would be able to identify it even if it was right in front of your face. You follow what Im saying?

Here's a whole forum devoted to these questions:
http://www.infidelguy.com/forum-22.html

Care to attempt to answer the questions, rather than answer the questions with questions?

First off, I like this thread (so much so I joined just to post). I'm an atheist and I love actual debate around theology (you could say I want to beleive and am just waiting for someone to convince me).

So many questions, I can't answer all of them... but here goes the 'college try' to your logical arguments (debating religion is kinda pointless IMHO).

To address: God is good but lets bad things happen and created hell and such...

- God created Heaven to reward those who please him (which he knows in advance apparently).
- God is merciful so he doesn't want people to go to hell - and should therefore not allow those hell-bound people to be.

My answer is that God allows all his creations the maximum amount of time on earth up until death. At the moment they would have commited a hell worthy trespass, he kills them BEFORE (accident, medical reasons, even stillborns for the going-to-be-unrepentant sinners). In this way he knows who is going to sin, he allows them experience of life, takes into account the environmental effects on behavior, and explains why accidental deaths occur (in this case to save your soul from damnation).

Any thoughts? I'm out for a run, I'll check back later.

Just to let you know, while I didn't think I could get through all these questions, I think I'm about half way done with them..so I may post them in a couple of days..or wait till next week for my days off to finish them. I was actually aiming at posting a proof for two for the existence of a Theistic God, and PERHAPS also posting a reply to all 89 questions..with more than a sentance reply to each..at least I think for most part.

As it seems was perhaps intended by the person(s) who compiled this daunting list, to stiffle many if anyone from taking the time to reply because of its length, please do not expect me to reply to most if not many replies to this because of the same reason..length and that I don't have time to.

Lord willing when I get a chance to post a proof or two for the existence of a Theistic God,

List of questions about God, religion and the supernatural have been compiled by IG over the years as well as some interesting ones by readers.

1. If Jesus fulfilled all the OT prophecies so well, why didn't the Jews recognize him as the messiah? - Francois Tremblay

This wrongly assumes that the problem men have with the existence of God and His love for us, is intellectual assent.

2. If Gen 3:24 is true, why hasn't anyone found the Cherubims and the " flaming sword which turned every way"?

Is this a serious question..?? Who says that since Adam and Eves demise that there needed to be a continuing Cherubum or sword there?

3. It's been proven that modern humans originated from Africa. Yet, the Adam and Eve story claims the first Humans lived in a garden in Eden, near 4 rivers. ( Most of which no one can find). One of these rivers mentioned is the Euphrates, which runs through Iraq, Syria and a portion of Turkey. What's the truth? Did man come out of Africa or near the Euphrates River? - The Infidel Guy

I would disagree that man has been shown to decend from Africa conclusively. Theres no single ONE view of Darwinian evolution.

4. When the believer gets to Heaven, how can Heaven be utter bliss when people they love and care about are burning in Hell ? - The Infidel Guy - [Note: Some say God erases your memories of them, but if God erases your memory, you as Mr. Joe /Jane Smoe ceases to exist.

After hearing most of your broadcast, I can see how you don't seem to understand that you in fact have some great misunderstandings of the Bible you passionately reject. Firstly people arent tortured in hell, theyre tormented, which is a difference, knowing their choice was wrong for all eternity, they have eternal regret, unsatisfaction or pain, and emptiness..

Those who volutarily distance themselves from God in this life will have their choices ratified by God.

5. How can a God have emotions, i.e. jealousy, anger, sadness, love, etc., if he is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent? Emotional states are reactionary for the most part. How can God react to us if he is all-knowing and has a divine plan? - IG [Note: Indeed, many religious texts display their gods this way . Listen to the An Emotional Godshow.

Emotions for HUMANS and all contingent changing beings is sequentially and temporally reactive, but not for God.

6. Why would God create a place such as hell to torture sinners forever when he foreknew who would disappoint him? - IG [Note: Some say you have a choice, but this misses the point. If God hates sin so much, why create Adam and Eve when he knew they'd sin? The only conclusion I can come up with, if Yaweh exists, is that he wanted sin to enter the world

God doesnt hate the potential to do evil, because that is a good thing called freedom/free will.

"The same can be said for silly pseudo-theists that give unelaborate four-to-six word answers and, because of their pretentious hot-shit mentality, think that's all you need to support your argument."

Aww. I wish you could write with such brevity too!

"1) Your answer was: "They needed a jew."
Jesus was a Jew. Thus, they had a Jew at their disposal who fulfilled all of the OT prophecies. Think about it harder; why didn't they need a messiah?"

Okay, they needed a messiah.

"2) Your answer was: "It is not true."
Then the Bible is not infallable as Christian theists profess."

Duh.

"3) Your answer was: "Both are probably wrong."
What's your ground-breaking evidence to suggest this? We have scientific evidence to support that all mankind came from Africa; we have a faith-based geological theory to support that it was near the Euphrates. Tell us about your "gray area" theory."

- Both are probably wrong. Science has been wrong more than it has been right... in history of course. It may be that civilization began in Africa, but it is rather unlikely that this was the only place it began, being that island of Africa, Europe and Asia is pretty damn big.

"4) Your answer was: "Reincarnation."
The Bible strictly teaches against reincarnation, as it says in the later New Testament that there is no waiting for judgement upon death."

Hey, I was justt giving an answer. Didn't need to be.... a correct... one.

"5) Your answer was: "It doesn't."
Then why are there passages in the Bible to suggest that he does? Such as being jealous, and angry?"

I don't know. Perhaps humans need a humane god. Or would that be inhumane?

"6) Your answer was: "Man created Hell."
According to the Bible, God created the Hell. Considering this list of questions was concerning The Bible, it helps to believe in it if you're actually going to attack us for compiling a list of it's errancies."

The bible says this, the bible says that. Okay. Who cares? - People who have questions for theists...?

"7) Your answer was: "Perhaps bad is necessary, perhaps evil doesn't exist, just like hell?"
How can bad be necessary and evil not exist at the same time? That claim is self-contradictory."

... Perhaps bad is necessary, or perhaps evil doesn't exist...

"8) Your answer was: "He would die a horrible death for his sin."
The answer does not apply to the question. The question had to do with a muslim's moral obligation to stay here on Earth in order for prayer to Mecca, not the reprocussions of said action."

The question does not apply to the answer. I think this was my point.

"9) Your answer was: "Well seeing as though all life dies, I think it'd sort of defeat the purpose if God made us to die, to bring us back to life again."
One word: Lazarus. He obviously had a purpose, because Jesus apparently brought him back to life."

One word: proof. Who the hell is this Lazarus guy? Some guy from a book? I don't believe it.

"10) Your answer was: "Because god doesn't have words and people use it for their own power."
God's power predates and has seniority over man's power, who is really carrying out God's will, therefore, all power is God's power. And being all-powerful, as well as outspoken in the Bible, God appeared to have had words to say. Such a claim is not only idiotic but irrelevant to these questions. I'd like to know what God you're really talking about."

The god of the people. My god. Your god. His god. Her god. Dr. Seuss' god. - some poor crazed man would even say the will to power.

"11) Your answer was: "The bible is crazy."
Then why are you attacking a list of questions intended to challenge Christian theists? You are in the same boat we are! My hypothesis would be that your mind is a propaganda sponge and you spout whatever brilliant rhetoric pops into your head first. Trying to look impressive? You look like an asshat."

I'm glad I impressed you, with my spongy spongeness and rhetorical spongituity. Might I absorb all your water for you? - Oh, and theists does not equal Christian.

"12) Your answer was: "Satan doesn't exist."
Again, that refutes the biblical cosmic battle between good and evil! What God do you believe in?"

I believe in you.

"13) Your answer was: "Why did the writers of the Bible include this anyways?"
That's what were trying to figure out. Your fifteen minutes of boredom is counterproductive to the cause."

Oh no, I'm wasting your time... quick, think up more questions to ask christians! 99 and counting! Hurry hurry super scurry!

"14) Your "answer" was: " I give up. This has abso-fu**ing-lutely nothing to do with theism. It's just a bunch of anti-christian crap. Not very well thought up, might I add. I hate anti-christians that can't think well, sounds like a bunch of teenagers got together and decided to rant about religion. Of course that is whta IG is all about anyways. It makes the true anti-religious people pissed off because there are idiots like this that do stuff like this."
It has everything to do with theism. All of these questions are directed to question the integrity of a faith-based writing surrounding the Christian God. If that isn't theism, I don't know what is."

It is theism (arguably), but theism is not it. That was my point.

"Call us a bunch of teenagers who "just got together and decuded to rant about religion", but you're the asshole that came and called us out on our turf with an argument that did not even apply to the subject at hand! And if it did, it was a poorly educated one at that! Did it take you far out of your way?"

No. I'm uneducated on someone else's turf. Woe is me. How long 'til I'm banned?

"What difference does it make if you come attacking us "anti-Christians" and you close your argument putting anti-religious people on a pedestal?"

Aww, I really can't stand people that do not understand how to criticize something.

"Everything you have presented here today is counterproductive to your cause and a waste of perfectly good forum space. I'd much rather see a picture of a naked woman here."

Figures. I'm counterproductive because I'm here to tell a bunch of rational responders to stop wasting their time insulting christians. You're right. Carry on!

- Hey Jesus freaks! Can god make a rock so big that even he can't lift it? Haha, you're wrong!

"The same can be said for silly pseudo-theists that give unelaborate four-to-six word answers and, because of their pretentious hot-shit mentality, think that's all you need to support your argument."

Aww. I wish you could write with such brevity too!

"1) Your answer was: "They needed a jew."
Jesus was a Jew. Thus, they had a Jew at their disposal who fulfilled all of the OT prophecies. Think about it harder; why didn't they need a messiah?"

Okay, they needed a messiah.

"2) Your answer was: "It is not true."
Then the Bible is not infallable as Christian theists profess."

Duh.

"3) Your answer was: "Both are probably wrong."
What's your ground-breaking evidence to suggest this? We have scientific evidence to support that all mankind came from Africa; we have a faith-based geological theory to support that it was near the Euphrates. Tell us about your "gray area" theory."

- Both are probably wrong. Science has been wrong more than it has been right... in history of course. It may be that civilization began in Africa, but it is rather unlikely that this was the only place it began, being that island of Africa, Europe and Asia is pretty damn big.

"4) Your answer was: "Reincarnation."
The Bible strictly teaches against reincarnation, as it says in the later New Testament that there is no waiting for judgement upon death."

Hey, I was justt giving an answer. Didn't need to be.... a correct... one.

"5) Your answer was: "It doesn't."
Then why are there passages in the Bible to suggest that he does? Such as being jealous, and angry?"

I don't know. Perhaps humans need a humane god. Or would that be inhumane?

"6) Your answer was: "Man created Hell."
According to the Bible, God created the Hell. Considering this list of questions was concerning The Bible, it helps to believe in it if you're actually going to attack us for compiling a list of it's errancies."

The bible says this, the bible says that. Okay. Who cares? - People who have questions for theists...?

"7) Your answer was: "Perhaps bad is necessary, perhaps evil doesn't exist, just like hell?"
How can bad be necessary and evil not exist at the same time? That claim is self-contradictory."

... Perhaps bad is necessary, or perhaps evil doesn't exist...

"8) Your answer was: "He would die a horrible death for his sin."
The answer does not apply to the question. The question had to do with a muslim's moral obligation to stay here on Earth in order for prayer to Mecca, not the reprocussions of said action."

The question does not apply to the answer. I think this was my point.

"9) Your answer was: "Well seeing as though all life dies, I think it'd sort of defeat the purpose if God made us to die, to bring us back to life again."
One word: Lazarus. He obviously had a purpose, because Jesus apparently brought him back to life."

One word: proof. Who the hell is this Lazarus guy? Some guy from a book? I don't believe it.

"10) Your answer was: "Because god doesn't have words and people use it for their own power."
God's power predates and has seniority over man's power, who is really carrying out God's will, therefore, all power is God's power. And being all-powerful, as well as outspoken in the Bible, God appeared to have had words to say. Such a claim is not only idiotic but irrelevant to these questions. I'd like to know what God you're really talking about."

The god of the people. My god. Your god. His god. Her god. Dr. Seuss' god. - some poor crazed man would even say the will to power.

"11) Your answer was: "The bible is crazy."
Then why are you attacking a list of questions intended to challenge Christian theists? You are in the same boat we are! My hypothesis would be that your mind is a propaganda sponge and you spout whatever brilliant rhetoric pops into your head first. Trying to look impressive? You look like an asshat."

I'm glad I impressed you, with my spongy spongeness and rhetorical spongituity. Might I absorb all your water for you? - Oh, and theists does not equal Christian.

"12) Your answer was: "Satan doesn't exist."
Again, that refutes the biblical cosmic battle between good and evil! What God do you believe in?"

I believe in you.

"13) Your answer was: "Why did the writers of the Bible include this anyways?"
That's what were trying to figure out. Your fifteen minutes of boredom is counterproductive to the cause."

Oh no, I'm wasting your time... quick, think up more questions to ask christians! 99 and counting! Hurry hurry super scurry!

"14) Your "answer" was: " I give up. This has abso-fu**ing-lutely nothing to do with theism. It's just a bunch of anti-christian crap. Not very well thought up, might I add. I hate anti-christians that can't think well, sounds like a bunch of teenagers got together and decided to rant about religion. Of course that is whta IG is all about anyways. It makes the true anti-religious people pissed off because there are idiots like this that do stuff like this."
It has everything to do with theism. All of these questions are directed to question the integrity of a faith-based writing surrounding the Christian God. If that isn't theism, I don't know what is."

It is theism (arguably), but theism is not it. That was my point.

"Call us a bunch of teenagers who "just got together and decuded to rant about religion", but you're the asshole that came and called us out on our turf with an argument that did not even apply to the subject at hand! And if it did, it was a poorly educated one at that! Did it take you far out of your way?"

No. I'm uneducated on someone else's turf. Woe is me. How long 'til I'm banned?

"What difference does it make if you come attacking us "anti-Christians" and you close your argument putting anti-religious people on a pedestal?"

Aww, I really can't stand people that do not understand how to criticize something.

"Everything you have presented here today is counterproductive to your cause and a waste of perfectly good forum space. I'd much rather see a picture of a naked woman here."

Figures. I'm counterproductive because I'm here to tell a bunch of rational responders to stop wasting their time insulting christians. You're right. Carry on!

- Hey Jesus freaks! Can god make a rock so big that even he can't lift it? Haha, you're wrong!

Bah. She hasn't logged on for about a month. I'll probably pass on it. Shucks.

Gravity wrote:

"So, because my refute to your arguments are longer than the four word systematical brain puss that you spit out to draw attention to yourself, they're a problem?"

-No. But might I say they save time... time certain people were complaining about.

"They had a messiah. Jesus fulfilled all of the OT prophecies. Now why didn't they call him Messiah?"

-Because they needed a messiah... in human form. The had one in text, they needed one in real life. I personally doubt Jesus ever knew he became some messiah anyways, that most of his life is a fabrication and bastardization of a famous jew who died on the cross.

"I'd like to know, once and for all, the fundamentals behind your personal theist philosophy. By all means, fill us in."

-No.

"The absence of evidence is the evidence of absence."

No. - Science must be falsifiable.

"You can't say "Well, the Earth is pretty damn big""

-I didn't.

"Then why the Hell are you answering these questions? The name of the threat is atheist vs. theist, not theist vs. pseudo-theist. Don't get me wrong; I'm glad you chimed in with your two-cents. It made for an entertaining day overall."

-Sure.

""I don't know. Perhaps humans need a humane god. Or would that be inhumane?"
The God of the Bible is in no way humane! Either you've never read the Bible (which would draw further suspicion that you're just here to draw attention to yourself), or you need to look up the words "humane" and "inhumane" in the dictionary before using them in debate."

- Or would that be inhumane. - Humane being, marked by characteristic of humanistic values- god is a reflection of human beings, human beings aren't that great, therefore god isn't that great. - Simple argument, I'd rather not scrutinize to hell.

"Who cares? Obviously you care, or you wouldn't have taken the time to ridicule us by answering fifteen of the questions, regardless of how irrational and half-assed they were."

-Yep.

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Gravity wrote:

"7) Your answer was: "Perhaps bad is necessary, perhaps evil doesn't exist, just like hell?"
How can bad be necessary and evil not exist at the same time? That claim is self-contradictory."

... Perhaps bad is necessary, or perhaps evil doesn't exist...

I refuted your answer, and you answered my refute with the answer that I refuted. You are an idiot."

Look again. I added an or in there to make my original point more clear to you. I never said bad is necessary and evil doesn't exist. Besides, learn to ask definition before abusing your own definition of words, I could have meant something different by bad and evil, hence why I used bad and evil not evil and evil.

"It's your point to give answers that are completely irrelevant to the questions? (::scrolls up and down page: Okay, I can see that now."

- I think you've figured me out. All these answers to these questions are meaningless. Voila. All these questions are meaningless too.

"Exactly. These questions were intended for the people who believe it."

Well I'm a theist and these questions were intended for me, and I don't believe it... wait, how can somebody be a theist and not be fundamentalist, oh my gosh like valley girl!

"And who is this God?

When you talk about the will to power, you almost sound like a Satanist, but I would not give you that much credit, seeing as that is what I am, and I am not a theist as yourself.

I would venture to guess that you don't even know what you believe."

When I talk about will to power, it is Nietzschean. And I wouldn't doubt Satanists adopted this idea and misused it, like a large majority of Nietzsche's other ideas were.

"That's not what I was saying. A Christian equals a theist, dumbass."

It is necessary for a Christian to be a theist. My point...

If theist, then Christian (this statement is false)
If Christian, then theist (this statement is true, arguably).
Christian does not equal theist, meaning the necessary and sufficient conditions apply, they don't. That would be, If and only if Christian, then theist... which is obviously false.

"Explain your philosophy a little further."

No.

"At least that will be a more productive use of time than arguing theism with theism, as you have done here."

... right. And you want me to elaborate my theistic philosophy... with you?

"I made that point earlier on."

And I did too.

"About as long as it takes for you to leave, since it appears that your state of mind is that you're wasting your time here anyway.

Like I said before, I think you're just here to draw attention to yourself, and your plan backfired and made you look like a huge idiot."

-Yes, because my fear is to look like an idiot. Bert and Ernie.

"By neglecting to criticize my question, and instead leaving a useless statement concerning your preference of people and criticism, you have shown your failure in knowing how to properly criticize my question, which was perfectly valid. So I am, in a sense, turning this comment onto you."

- No, I haven't shown my failure to criticize your questions, I've shown disregard to them... which can be taken as criticism, only if you know me well enough in the first place (and I don't expect this of you).

"We're not insulting Christians. It's called the Rational Response Squad. Of course, we have a bit of fun at their expense, but we are overall dead set on the presentation of ideas and the shedding of light upon misconception."

- Haha. I've seen one shred of intelligence from anyone in the RRS- and it was, " Fast Food is rarely rational. I'd go with the packed lunch. " - Of course, you need to know the context to understand it.

"Also, that last line, was a waste of time insulting Christians. Just thought you should know that you have no right to be on a soapbox right now."

- Soapbox, soapdish. I have no rights! wow.

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As it seems was perhaps intended by the person(s) who compiled this daunting list, to stiffle many if anyone from taking the time to reply because of its length, please do not expect me to reply to most if not many replies to this because of the same reason..length and that I don't have time to.

Hi Dominick. The list was not created by one person. It was created by many posters on Infidelguy.com, over a period of time. This is specifically stated in the list, so I'm not sure how you missed it.

I understand that many people emailed or posted questions, as each typically have someones name next to the qustion..my point is that in attempting to present yourself as professional, I assumed someone picked out of a mess of questions and posted those as a picked compilation, now having read all of them, I can see how that wasnt necessarily the way it was done. Many are repetative in different wording or saying the same thing in different ways. I was saying that someone had to take these many questions and compile them deciding that 89 was ok rather than a lesser amount..if that happened then what I said stands for someone had to ok it being 89..which is quite alot of questions..thus is daunting and doesnt seem to be something that one person is expected to tackle.

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Lord willing when I get a chance to post a proof or two for the existence of a Theistic God,

How can you talk about the existence of something that violates ontology?

Ontology is the study or being or existence. All you just did there was STATE or ASSERT that God violates ontology. Id say He doesnt and can back that up. Please back up why you say His existence violates a study of existence rather than grounds it? The only way I can see you responding is by merely begging the question by defining all existence as contingent or changing, or temporal..which is circular and does beg the question..its actually quite irrational as well to say the least. Please dont just assert, please provide evidence for your assertion.

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List of questions about God, religion and the supernatural have been compiled by IG over the years as well as some interesting ones by readers.

1. If Jesus fulfilled all the OT prophecies so well, why didn't the Jews recognize him as the messiah? - Francois Tremblay

This wrongly assumes that the problem men have with the existence of God and His love for us, is intellectual assent.

It does? Then why do christians claim that there were prophecies in the first place? How else do people assess the outcome of a prophecy, if not by 'intellectual assent".

It seems that you are just trying to find an ad hoc way out of a mess.

I never said that intellectual assent and evidence isnt important, I said that the MAIN assumption behind that question seems to imply that if only they had the right evidence they would have believed, and I showed that that is not correct. While I also never said that intellectual assent or evidence isnt important, because it is important and is necessary, that doesnt mean its sufficient nor does it follow that that is the only problem with men who reject Jesus being the Messiah. The Bible shows that men are sinners, therefore have selfishness, choose to do what they ought not do, contrary to what they know is true and good. In light of that, there were some who knew Jesus WAS the messiah, for they acknowledged that Jesus performed miracles (see John 3 with Nicodemus) and only one from God who spoke what God wants to communicate can do miracles..because God wouldnt approve of a false teacher by performing miracles along with their message. So there were those who denied Jesus INSPITE of justified knowledge that He was the Messiah, the One who fullfills the messianic prophecies, and there were also those who just didnt fully understand..but thats a big difference. I also noted that man jews DID recieve Him as Lord and Savior including many pharisees and teachers of the law.

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2. If Gen 3:24 is true, why hasn't anyone found the Cherubims and the " flaming sword which turned every way"?

Is this a serious question..?? Who says that since Adam and Eves demise that there needed to be a continuing Cherubum or sword there?

Is this a serious response? You ask "who says there needs to be a continuing flaming sword"

Well, the simple thing to do is check your source for your claim, the bible.

The bible states this:

3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Nothing here implies that the tree of life was taken away, nor does anything here imply that the cherubim or sword would be taken away.

Thats an argument from silence. If it doesnt make a point saying one or the other as according to you how can you make that as an argument?? Youre right it neither says it was to be a perpetual thing..ONLY IF it said it was perpetual and to be there all times for all people could your argument make any sense. I think that is a really bad argument.

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3. It's been proven that modern humans originated from Africa. Yet, the Adam and Eve story claims the first Humans lived in a garden in Eden, near 4 rivers. ( Most of which no one can find). One of these rivers mentioned is the Euphrates, which runs through Iraq, Syria and a portion of Turkey. What's the truth? Did man come out of Africa or near the Euphrates River? - The Infidel Guy

I would disagree that man has been shown to decend from Africa conclusively. Theres no single ONE view of Darwinian evolution.

So what? The fact that an inductive claim can be doubted, in of itself, is not a reason to reject an inductive claim. Do you have a reason as to why you think man did not descend from Africa? If not, how do you know that you're not just denying this, to suit your biases?

Well my "bias" is first principles of reason, and since Darwinian Evolution is based in and pretty much IS or is BASED IN naturalism or materialism, and these philosophies are contradictory and thus contrary to first principles of reason, it shouldnt be considered seriously..furthermore the conclusions drawn with Darwinism CANNOT be true. Conclusions drawn with Darwinism go against the law of causality, analogy, law of non contradiction etc..so its an irrational philosophy thats time has hopefully runb out with this generation. Furthermore we can see that the Bible can be verfied to be divine not human in origin not to say that its also historically reliable first of all, and thus can be relied upon to tell us how we began and who we are. Intelligent Design proponents have good refutations of Darwinian evolution, but Id argue it on the grounds of philosophy and commonsense which is avaliable to all. Wheres your proof that we descended from africa?? Btw without an unchanging necessary ground for reason, all probability deductions or inductions arent necessarily applicable to rseality..how much more does darwinism need reason to be silly putty in ones hands, to be able to express the conclusions that come from that low grade theory?

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4. When the believer gets to Heaven, how can Heaven be utter bliss when people they love and care about are burning in Hell ? - The Infidel Guy - [Note: Some say God erases your memories of them, but if God erases your memory, you as Mr. Joe /Jane Smoe ceases to exist.

After hearing most of your broadcast, I can see how you don't seem to understand that you in fact have some great misunderstandings of the Bible you passionately reject. Firstly people arent tortured in hell, theyre tormented, which is a difference, knowing their choice was wrong for all eternity, they have eternal regret, unsatisfaction or pain, and emptiness..

How is purposely tormenting someone better than torturing them?

I dont understand how youre measuring better or worse? Please first of all tell me how or on what basis you make sense of better or worse and then I can more directly answer your question. Generally speaking I can say that the tormenting is self inflicted, because its the consequence of eternal regret that one will have after the fact of choosing to pay for ones own sins forever instead of recieving CHrists payment for them..secondly, the condition of eternal torment envolves not a tearing of ones flesh or decapitations where one wouldnt have enough body parts to keep that going forever..rather its a state of regret, deprivation, bordom, eternal mental and emotional suffocation, dissatisfaction..all self inflicted because of one choice to do what they ought not have done...reject the very source of love, life, and goodness of things you enjoyed in this life before this time of finality comes over you. Youre idea or assumption of God taking pleasure in ones suffering is unfounded, and He doesnt enjoy people rejecting Him nor suffering the consequences of doing so. Its a thing man needs to do to onesef ..and isnt something God does TO THEM..Rather He lets thm have their will be done..and you are blindly assuming you know whats best when you as a human dont always know whats best

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How can a person be blamed for making the choice that their intellect and conscious dictates?

Just because one sincerely believes something doesnt mean they cant be sincerely wrong. Theres at least three reasons why someone rejects God and the Bible. Ones intellect and conscious are inclined towards truth naturally, that point them to a theistic God, but another part of them is inclined to point them away from the truth..to those that supress the truth in their wickeness for the sake of sexual or other desires for independant practices apart from commonsense and morals typically choose this route. Jullian Huxley admitted this as the reaosn people grabbed onto Darwinian evolution..inotherwords not for intellectual reasons.

1) Intellectual reasons. These people need evidence and they will believe if they see some. While many are like this it can also be said that many are not like this..many SAY theyre like this but I find arent UNTILL theyre FIRST shown their view is inadequet.

2) Emotional reasons. These people will say something like "christians hurt me so Im not gunna believe in God". Well, even if all christians have done wrong, or are messed up that doesnt mean that christianity is false. So they need some sort of evidence of a real changed life, a proper understanding of what happens to you when you get saved, that theres people who claim to be christian but arent really, and other types of comfort or counsel to help them see the truth on this.

3) Valitional reasons. Some people just don't want to believe EVEN IF the evidence shows Christian Theism is true. FOr these you love, pray for, and be friends to, because if they dont want to believe they wont. Many are like this. Something to also note is I believe Jean Paul Sarte said that "If you can prove this God of the Bible to us, WE WOULD BELIEVE IT ALL THE LESS". Is that an intellectual reason or a valitional reason. If you see that as a valitional reason,m what I find funny is that people who really just dont want to believe PRETEND as if their reason is intellectual when it isnt.

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Why would any loving being offer a 'choice' between torment and worship?

Would you torment your own children for not obeying you?

Any loving being would offer a choice between torment and valuing what is really good in itself and also good for them. Any parent who isnt weighed down by some issue like ocd or something on the level of control, manipulation or some other oppressive evil will alolow their children to make their own choices, and have to suffer the consequences for their wrong choices..only a parent who is firm in their co dependance or some other unhealthy behavior will try to keep their children from not learning the difference between right and wrong. Remember torment is due to THEM CHOOSING to do what is wrong based in lies...for them to experience blessings, its because THEY CHOSE what is right and experienced the good that came from that choice whether it was difficult to make or not. God doesnt torment anyone, rather, Hes the reminder of the good they could have had but will be to late for those who didnt care to cling to the right when they had the chance. Im sorry you have such a bad notion of who God really is..loving good and kind. One whos infinitely loving, but also infinitely just, giving to people what they deserve in accordance with what they themselves have done. AT the judgment all who are in hell will know they deserved it and chose it knowiung that Gods judgments are always 100% perfect and based on ALL the evidence avaliable. If you had a bad relationship with your parent I can understand why you believe God to be so ...well ..hmmm....bad.

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Those who volutarily distance themselves from God in this life will have their choices ratified by God.

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You assume that people actually believe there is a god, and choose not to be near him. What about people who really just don't believe in a god?

You never answered the question, by the way.

I dont see where I didnt answer your question. Which one or which part didnt I answer? Well I think what Im saying is that people intuatively have an inclination towards knowing God exists..kinda like if you see two mountains that are crossed infront of each other..you may not have seen the way their bases look in relationship to each other but you can surmise how they look. You can also choose to see how they look by choosing to see it and search for it in reality. Likewise you have all the evidence in the world, with the world itself, where the creation points to a creator, design to a designer, and morals to a moral law giver. IF one responds to the light theyve been given they will be given the light of Christ which the light you have points to. My point is that all are born with an innate intuition that God exists, an inclination HE exists, a feeling He does, but its their choice to search out the answers to their questions in reality..to search out the evidence for God and who He is. Many chose not to.

So my point is that there are those who are not objectively sure, but can be if they so chose to be, where as others mayby be sure and reject Him and evidence for Him anyways. If you want to you can see the actually inescapable nature of evidence for a theistic God. But thats your choice to see it for what it is. Many people dont want to be confused by the facts because their mind is made up..ad that is unfortunate. Others assume that just because they couldnt get a solid answer from one christian or person there must not be any..thats to see yourself short. There are answers, and God has given everybody enough light sufficient to believe THAT He exists and wants to know and love you.

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5. How can a God have emotions, i.e. jealousy, anger, sadness, love, etc., if he is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent? Emotional states are reactionary for the most part. How can God react to us if he is all-knowing and has a divine plan? - IG [Note: Indeed, many religious texts display their gods this way . Listen to the An Emotional Godshow.

Emotions for HUMANS and all contingent changing beings is sequentially and temporally reactive, but not for God.

Sorry, but this is more ad hocism. Emotions are sequentially and temporally reactive... so if you remove this element, you no longer have an 'emotion'

That just begs the question and is an indirect argument for the existence of God. If all is contingent and changing, thus COULD change from being into non being..what grounds the existence of all contingent changing being(s)? Itself? If it can go from being into non being, then it must be caused to keep existing. Since it cannot cause its own existence, it must be caused by another, and that which is beyond what changes and what is contingent is what is necessar yand unchanging. Therefore as long as you admitt that change is real, you automatically imply a theistic God exists. Youre merely defining youre way out of theism which begs the question and is circular..why do you define it that way VS defining it in a n objective independant way that allows for either type of being..contingent or necessary to fit the bill? All youre doing is assuming all that exists is changing temporal and contingent inorder to prove it is, and therefore that God doesnt exist and or doesnt have emotions/isnt personal.

Websters defines it as The part of the consciousness that involves feeling...why cant God have an aspect of His unchanging being that envoles feeling in an eternal unchanging sense?? The burden of proof is on you to prove that all emotions are changing, temporal anc successive.

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6. Why would God create a place such as hell to torture sinners forever when he foreknew who would disappoint him? - IG [Note: Some say you have a choice, but this misses the point. If God hates sin so much, why create Adam and Eve when he knew they'd sin? The only conclusion I can come up with, if Yaweh exists, is that he wanted sin to enter the world

God doesnt hate the potential to do evil, because that is a good thing called freedom/free will.

Incorrect. Theists claim that man must have 'free will' to follow god. Therefore, evil acts have no role at all in this situation. The only 'free will' that is required is free choice to 'follow god'

Therefore, no other evil act is required.

Therefore, this argument fails.

No man didnt HAVE TO BE free..God decided to make us free agents..and inorder to be able to genuinely reciprocate love back, follow God, relate to him, and to be able to have genuine responcibillity man must have free will inorder to do these things. The problem is that youre using the term free will without giving any sort of understanding or definition to that term.. Free will MEANS one has the abillity to choose good or evil..it means they can do or do otherwise. Therefore a potential to do evil is part of having a good thing called free will, therefore you yet again are misunderstanding some basics with regards to Theism, of which I am a Theist. If one could ONLY do good, or follow God, and cant do otherwise, then THEYRE not able to do anything of their own accord..theyre just doing what they were wired to do, and thus dont really have free will, but a more so circumstantial freedom which isnt what is talked about by the Bible nor something that makes any sense in describing reality. Your argument fails in three ways..

1) It doesnt acknowledge what Theists really believe
2) It doesnt acknowledge how IM arguing for Theism or Christian Theism 3) You wanna keep using a strawman version of what you THINK christian theism is vs what it actually is..

therefore you can keep youre distance..yet you show youre not effective in representing your view because it fails to represent whats in reality. Therefore you show you must turn your back on reality inorder to believe what you do, which I dont think is effective or helpful. So please reply to how IM arguing for Christian Theism not how someone somewhere may have misrepresented it.

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This argument actually fails several times. It also fails in that this god must make himself completely and totally known to all, without any doubt, for it to work. Yet 'god' is not even a coherent term, let alone something axiomatic.

No, what God does is make Himself KNOWABLE to all, to the extent of sufficient certainty, and this makes sense if HE gives them an inner inclination towards knowing God, AND the evidence of reality to which their inclination points to which is all around them. God is axiomatic by definition. You could not make any necessary denials or affirmations UNLESS reason was grounded in that which is necessary and unchanging, and that is excatly how Theists describe God. SO inorder to do what youre doing in this forum you must assume a necessary unchanging ground to your argument, which you may call something else, to make your point that He doesnt exist...which I find is circular and self negating. There must be a necessary and unchanging ground to your statments lest they not need to be heard, accepted, or recieved as true or necessary. His existence is both coherent, axiomatic, and corrsponds to reality. Its JUST that your understanding of who God is isnt correct, and youre arguing against a strawman of who God is inorer to make your case against Him..when it isnt Him youre really reacting against..but rather is a false representation of who He is your reacting to.

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Oh, by the way, if you read Acts 13:48, you'll learn that the bible states that only pre-ordained people would be allowed in heaven. So much for freewill...

By the way you may want to find more than one antiquiated version of the Bible to reffer to, and or get a lexicon..the word there reffers to predisposition, so theres no need to read into that any sort of determinism. The way it should read or be understood is "as many were predisposed to to eternal life believed. The problem is that inorder for atheists and a-theists to try to make a feeble attempt to refute christian theism is they need to get ther info from a bad source, a bible that is over 50 years old, which doesnt rely on the earliest extant or best mansucripts, ignore principles of grammer or reading, and basically argue a strawman argument.

BTW EVEN IF it said what you said it does, it doesnt follow that free will doesnt exist. The passage is quoting the old testament regarding the fact that the gentiles would be saved in and of themselves without needing to become jews or identify with the types and shadows of judaism like in terms of circumsition...and in light of that, according to Gods foreknowledge which is unchanging, it would be reffering to the unchanging KNOWLEDGE of God, knowing for certain who would believe, rather than reffering to the actual choices of men in time..Inother words, the appointing reffers to the unchanging knowledge of God, which doesnt cause any man to do anything, but is aware or conscious of what they will choose, and done so not against their free will, but in ACCORD with their free will. Thats what Peter says as it does all throughout scripture. SO even if God knew for certain which Gentiles would believe, it SAYS THEY believed, it doesnt say God believed for them or that Gods knowledge MADE them choose. Rather it says they believed, AND it was done so according to Gods certain unchanging knowledge. ALl things are detremined from Gods perspective but free from the aspect of time and mens choice. There are other possible ways to understand this passage as well which are well within the pale of christian theism.

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Basically, I find your responses here ironic. You complain about the length of the list, yet your own responses are unneccesarily verbose. Second, your responses often don't even deal with the question. Third, your responses are basically ad hoc - if something refutes your belief, you just don't believe it. Finally, many of your claims are not only ad hoc, but based on a presumption that is itself unjustified, irrational, or even anti biblical.

Nice little forum you have here, by the way. I hope you liked my response. My favorite part of it would have to concern refuting the anti-biblical 'free will defense".

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dominick_777 wrote:

As it seems was perhaps intended by the person(s) who compiled this daunting list, to stiffle many if anyone from taking the time to reply because of its length, please do not expect me to reply to most if not many replies to this because of the same reason..length and that I don't have time to.

Hi Dominick. The list was not created by one person. It was created by many posters on Infidelguy.com, over a period of time. This is specifically stated in the list, so I'm not sure how you missed it.

I understand that many people emailed or posted questions,

Lord willing when I get a chance to post a proof or two for the existence of a Theistic God,

Ontology is the study or being or existence.

All you just did there was STATE or ASSERT that God violates ontology. Id say He doesnt and can back that up.

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List of questions about God, religion and the supernatural have been compiled by IG over the years as well as some interesting ones by readers.

1. If Jesus fulfilled all the OT prophecies so well, why didn't the Jews recognize him as the messiah? - Francois Tremblay

This wrongly assumes that the problem men have with the existence of God and His love for us, is intellectual assent.

It does? Then why do christians claim that there were prophecies in the first place? How else do people assess the outcome of a prophecy, if not by 'intellectual assent".

It seems that you are just trying to find an ad hoc way out of a mess.

I never said that intellectual assent and evidence isnt important, I said that the MAIN assumption behind that question seems to imply that if only they had the right evidence they would have believed, and I showed that that is not correct.

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2. If Gen 3:24 is true, why hasn't anyone found the Cherubims and the " flaming sword which turned every way"?

Is this a serious question..?? Who says that since Adam and Eves demise that there needed to be a continuing Cherubum or sword there?

Is this a serious response? You ask "who says there needs to be a continuing flaming sword"

Well, the simple thing to do is check your source for your claim, the bible.

The bible states this:

3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Nothing here implies that the tree of life was taken away, nor does anything here imply that the cherubim or sword would be taken away.

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3. It's been proven that modern humans originated from Africa. Yet, the Adam and Eve story claims the first Humans lived in a garden in Eden, near 4 rivers. ( Most of which no one can find). One of these rivers mentioned is the Euphrates, which runs through Iraq, Syria and a portion of Turkey. What's the truth? Did man come out of Africa or near the Euphrates River? - The Infidel Guy

I would disagree that man has been shown to decend from Africa conclusively. Theres no single ONE view of Darwinian evolution.

So what? The fact that an inductive claim can be doubted, in of itself, is not a reason to reject an inductive claim. Do you have a reason as to why you think man did not descend from Africa? If not, how do you know that you're not just denying this, to suit your biases?

Well my "bias" is first principles of reason, and since Darwinian Evolution is based in and pretty much IS or is BASED IN naturalism or materialism, and these philosophies are contradictory and thus contrary to first principles of reason, it shouldnt be considered seriously..

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4. When the believer gets to Heaven, how can Heaven be utter bliss when people they love and care about are burning in Hell ? - The Infidel Guy - [Note: Some say God erases your memories of them, but if God erases your memory, you as Mr. Joe /Jane Smoe ceases to exist.

After hearing most of your broadcast, I can see how you don't seem to understand that you in fact have some great misunderstandings of the Bible you passionately reject. Firstly people arent tortured in hell, theyre tormented, which is a difference, knowing their choice was wrong for all eternity, they have eternal regret, unsatisfaction or pain, and emptiness..

How is purposely tormenting someone better than torturing them?

I dont understand how youre measuring better or worse?

How can a person be blamed for making the choice that their intellect and conscious dictates?

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Why would any loving being offer a 'choice' between torment and worship?

Would you torment your own children for not obeying you?

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5. How can a God have emotions, i.e. jealousy, anger, sadness, love, etc., if he is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent? Emotional states are reactionary for the most part. How can God react to us if he is all-knowing and has a divine plan? - IG [Note: Indeed, many religious texts display their gods this way . Listen to the An Emotional Godshow.

Emotions for HUMANS and all contingent changing beings is sequentially and temporally reactive, but not for God.

Sorry, but this is more ad hocism. Emotions are sequentially and temporally reactive... so if you remove this element, you no longer have an 'emotion'

That just begs the question

and is an indirect argument for the existence of God. If all is contingent and changing, thus COULD change from being into non being..

6. Why would God create a place such as hell to torture sinners forever when he foreknew who would disappoint him? - IG [Note: Some say you have a choice, but this misses the point. If God hates sin so much, why create Adam and Eve when he knew they'd sin? The only conclusion I can come up with, if Yaweh exists, is that he wanted sin to enter the world

God doesnt hate the potential to do evil, because that is a good thing called freedom/free will.

Incorrect. Theists claim that man must have 'free will' to follow god. Therefore, evil acts have no role at all in this situation. The only 'free will' that is required is free choice to 'follow god'

Therefore, no other evil act is required.

Therefore, this argument fails.

No man didnt HAVE TO BE free..God decided to make us free agents..

The problem is that youre using the term free will without giving any sort of understanding or definition to that term.. Free will MEANS one has the ability to choose good or evil..

You wanna keep using a strawman version of what you THINK christian theism is vs what it actually is..

This argument actually fails several times. It also fails in that this god must make himself completely and totally known to all, without any doubt, for it to work. Yet 'god' is not even a coherent term, let alone something axiomatic.

No, what God does is make Himself KNOWABLE to all,

. There must be a necessary and unchanging ground to your statments lest they not need to be heard, accepted, or recieved as true or necessary.

Oh, by the way, if you read Acts 13:48, you'll learn that the bible states that only pre-ordained people would be allowed in heaven. So much for freewill...

By the way you may want to find more than one antiquiated version of the Bible to reffer to, and or get a lexicon