Religion/Theism is the Root of all evil, watch Dawkins
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DESCRIPTION OF VIDEOS FROM RICHARD DAWKINS:
The Root of All Evil?
Episode 1: The God Delusion
Richard Dawkins is astounded that religious faith is gaining ground in the face of rational, scientific truth based on hard evidence. Julia Bard reports
In this two-part Channel 4 series, Professor Richard Dawkins challenges what he describes as 'a process of non-thinking called faith'. Dawkins is well known for bringing to a wide audience the complex scientific concepts that underpin evolution. His first book, The Selfish Gene was an international bestseller.
Truth lies and faith
He describes his astonishment that, at the start of the 21st century, religious faith is gaining ground in the face of rational, scientific truth. Science, based on scepticism, investigation and evidence, must continuously test its own concepts and claims. Faith, by definition, defies evidence: it is untested and unshakeable, and is therefore in direct contradiction with science.
In addition, though religions preach morality, peace and hope, in fact, says Dawkins, they bring intolerance, violence and destruction. The growth of extreme fundamentalism in so many religions across the world not only endangers humanity but, he argues, is in conflict with the trend over thousands of years of history for humanity to progress ? to become more enlightened and more tolerant.
At the extremes
He explores the state of the three Abrahamic religions in the world today, from the political influence of rich and powerful Christian fundamentalist institutions in America to the deadly clash of Judaism, Christianity and Islam in the Middle East. He describes the Holy Land as the least enlightened place in the world, a microcosm of the threat to rational values and civilisation posed by religion, whose irrational roots, he says, are nourishing intolerance and murder.
There are plenty of characters to illustrate his thesis. There are fanatics, like the former West Bank settler who has taken the small step of converting from Jewish fundamentalist to Muslim fundamentalist, transferring his hatred from one side of the looking glass to the other. And the frighteningly charismatic leader of America's National Association of Evangelicals, who believes he has been chosen by God to convert Americans through religious gatherings that resemble rock concerts ? though to Dawkins they feel more reminiscent of Nuremberg rallies.
Then there are the desperate, like those carrying burdens of disability or disease, who are among the 80,000 people a year who make the pilgrimage to Lourdes. Dawkins does the maths: out of the millions who, over a century, have placed their faith in a miracle restoring them to good health, there have been only 66 authenticated cures. This is hardly a strong record, he says, arguing that it is better for us to embrace truth than false hope.
A sense of belonging
Drawing on such examples, it is not difficult to demolish the claims of religion as fairytales, and dangerous ones at that. But there is more to religion than ancient stories and articles of faith. Dawkins touches on the sense of belonging promised by religious groups but dismisses this as 'seductive group solidarity', which he describes as a 'shared delusion'. In doing so, he glances off the more subtle dilemmas of how religions and religious traditions are woven through people's notions of 'community', 'history' and 'identity'.
Having a sense of one's place in the world is important to everyone but has particular significance for minorities and peoples under political, economic or military pressure. Individuals may even accept Dawkins' atheistic and scientific deconstruction of the myths they have grown up with but still defend and nurture the matrix of institutions, practices and relationships which make them who they are.
Episode 2: The Virus of Faith
How is it, asks Richard Dawkins, that despite science having exposed old religious myths, militant faith is back on the march? The mechanism for perpetuating beliefs that Dawkins describes as leading to murderous intolerance, is by imposing religion on children who are too inexperienced to judge it for themselves
We wouldn't categorise children according to their parents' political stance, says Dawkins, since they are too young to make up their minds about such matters. But we segregate them in sectarian religious schools, where they are taught superstitions drawn from ancient scriptures of dubious origin, which promote a 'contradictory and poisonous system of morals'.
From generation to generation
Dawkins compares this to a virus, which infects the young and is passed down the generations. Visiting an ultra-orthodox Jewish school, he describes the British-born headteacher Rabbi Gluck's Yiddish accent as testament to the isolation of his community. Gluck says that it's important for members of minorities to have the space to express their own beliefs and traditions. He describes science as one tradition, and Judaism as another. His students are taught about evolution and if only a minority end up believing in it, he says, this is not out of ignorance.
The number of faith schools is increasing. More than half the Government's proposed City Academies will be run by religious organisations and there's a growing number of private evangelical Christian schools. ACE ? Accelerated Christian Education ? has developed a curriculum which includes a mention of God or Jesus on every page of its science text book. The head of a school which uses this material argues that if there were no lawgiver, there would be no reason to see rape and murder as wrong.
Hellfire and damnation
Transmitting such a 'warped reality' to young people, says Dawkins, amounts to indoctrination. Children are uniquely vulnerable and if they fail to question and shake off such superstition, they remain in a state of perpetual infancy. He talks to a woman brought up in a strict Christian sect who describes the terror of eternal damnation, which dominated her childhood, as a form of abuse.
Hellhouse movies are a new growth industry in the USA today. Graphically filmed, they demonise abortion and homosexuality with the explicit aim of scaring the viewers. Pastor Keenan Roberts explains that the aim is 'to leave an indelible impression on their lives that sin destroys ? and Jesus saves'. The result, says Dawkins, is a mindset which can justify the murder of a doctor who carries out abortions on the grounds that he is destroying a being created in God's image!
Innate morality
Physicist and Nobel prizewinner Stephen Weinberg describes religion as an insult to human dignity. 'Without it,' he says, 'you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion.' Dawkins agrees. It is more moral, he says, to do good for its own sake than out of fear. Morality, he says, is older than religion, and kindness and generosity are innate in human beings, as they are in other social animals. The irony is that science recognises the majesty and complexity of the universe while religions lead to easy, closed answers.
Is there no more than just this life? asks Richard Dawkins. How much more do you want? We are lucky to be here, he says, and we should make the most of our time on this world.
Special thinks to "Motile" of Atheistnetwork.com for hosting the clips, and to Richard Dawkins for not minding.
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I saw both of these episodes. they are very, very good. Richard Dawkins is such a genius... My favorite part was in the second episode, when he explained how religion was brainwashing children. Very persuasive. It'd have to be flat out denial to not agree with what he says.
Wilson: "We were afraid that if you found out you solved a case with absolutely no medical evidence you'd think you were God." House: "God doesn't limp."
Dawkins said that the title of the show was not his choice (as he believes that nothing is the root of ALL evil), I forget where the interview was. The network just wanted to make it controversial.
It was a great show too, I put it on a CD and gave it to a new Atheist at my college. Dawkins is so eloquent and easy to understand, IG had him first, but we should have him on the show too
"Character is higher than intellect... A great soul will be strong to live, as well as to think."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Yeah, I'm sure he'll do our show, and look forward to having him on. We're tentatively planning to bring him in somewhere between episode 16 and 30.
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Heeey since when was I an honorary member?
Looking forward to it.
You got added over the weekend. Now, you know, you're not allowed to use your title to pick up women in the clubs... ok?
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Chicks don't dig the rational thing... except sybil :shock:
Don't have private access, if that's supposed to be different.
Anyway, i'm honored (pun intended).
"Character is higher than intellect... A great soul will be strong to live, as well as to think."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Actually that forum is ultra private, however I'm trying to figure out a way to streamline another private forum where only honorary members can get in and view. In fact... i'll start it now... but not everyone will be activated right away...
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And Old Broads.
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Ha, found them on Google video, so you don't have to download them:
Root of All Evil? Part 1
Root of All Evil? Part 2
Wilson: "We were afraid that if you found out you solved a case with absolutely no medical evidence you'd think you were God." House: "God doesn't limp."
Yes, i saw these shows, i think richard dawkins is a genius lol. It is interesting how both the fundamental christian and the fundamental muslim became very aggressive in their defence of each faith! Why did they feel the need to do that?
Your mind will take you far, the rest is just your heart, you'l find that fate is all your own creation.
I was just talking to a guy in the religion and philosophy chat room in myspace. He claimed that jesus is both the son of god, and god in human form! Hmmm,,, well, i just thought that,, according to him,, Jesus was born to a virgin,, he has 2 fathers, he is one of his fathers, does that mean that joseph is gods father? Or his grandfather perhaps? Very confusing! And if Jesus is god in human form, then he was born and created the world after her was born? Hmmmmm.
Your mind will take you far, the rest is just your heart, you'l find that fate is all your own creation.
Does anyone know how tho get the Dawkins videos on DVD?
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. - Seneca
Sorry dude Channel 4, the UK TV company who aired it, doesn't have it for sale in their shop. Unfortunately I deleted my original DVB-T recording, which is in DVD format and quality as I encoded it to xvid to save space. Xvids will only play on one of the new versions of DVD players. If it's quality you're after and not compatibility then the xvid versions are great.
psstt... they are available on some peer 2 peer networks... ummm apparently
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Hello there. Just thought I should let you know, the Richard Dawkins foundation have bought the rights to the DVDs and will be selling them to raise money for the foundation...
http://richarddawkins.net
I was stupid enough to send them a mail admitting I had them posted on my sites. I wanted permission to do so... Which they've kinda granted. Well, they said 'small' clips. 2*50 min clips IS small isn't it???
Anyway, check out the site to buy the DVD's...
Nice to find more free thinkers out there!
Be Good...
Please see above, sorry, 1st post and forgot to quote!