Cpt Pineapple the problem lies in the ignorance of those that are usually against it, now not every single christian is against stem cell research, however a large majority are ignorant of new forms of stem cells as well, when you mention cloning stem cells, normally (this is from my experience) they automatically assume your going to start cloning humans. Even though there has been an good advance on using adult stem cells and other forms of stem cells the best stem cells so far are still embryotic, since the embryos used are from aborted cells i don't see the problem using them, however this objection from most christian (not all) is that we are killing babies for this cells it shouldn't be done, however the embryos are not killed for their stem cells. Again part of the ignorance of the masses.
    You seem better informed than i would say 80 percent of those objecting to stem cell research, probably even more than all of them,  however this objection to stem cell research is leaving the US behind in this field, China has had sever advances in this field, especially when it comes to spinal cord injuries, as i have met a few people that have gone to china for this procedure. However how far behind the US is, i really don't know.

and most don't know the difference because, in attempt to crush something that they deem morally unacceptable, the more outspoken and fanatical members of the religious right gloss over the fine details and simply target the research as a whole. i have no doubt that many christians would be fine with stem cell cloning as opposed to human cloning if they actually knew there was a difference. but if you walk into a small town in Kansas and ask the folks at the diner what they think about stem cell research, i can practically guarantee you that they will say their opposed because it's baby murder and  cloning, both of which are morally wrong to them. they have no idea that the issue is any deeper than that. i know because these are my neighbors. and idiots like Bush are no help, since he's too ignorant to see any issue of any kind in any way other than black and white.

http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/asc-refs.pdf

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2007/stem-cells.html

Adult stem cell research can still help people.

[edit:shortened a long link]

I never realized people did think Christians are against all stem cell research. I've always understood them to, dogmatically and speciafically, be against embryonic stem cell research.

Here is a little stem cell Q&A that briefly answers some of the common questions about the issue.

Basically because they see anything human as equivalent, even if one is incapable of thought (fetus, embryo, brain dead, etc.)

You made the non sequitur by switching the order around.

Whatever, Cpt.

I could walk out on the street right now and take a poll and arrive at the same numbers the other polls have. (Probably worse in my little area)

Your analogies of the other poorly-funded programs HAVE NO RELEVANCE with regard to this issue.

Keep trying to find another reason why one of the most important breakthroughs of the past 20 years is being fought tooth and nail. 

Good for Canada. A closer place for our scientists to go to then.

I can break it down to american christianity being the primary cause for the idiocy in this country concerning stem cell research funding.

Congratulations on your 1,000th post, Cpt.

So what exactly do you want to be said?

Are you wanting us to ignore the christians that ARE causing the problems?

Are you wanting us to ignore the money given to the church by these liberal christians that is spent attempting to thwart stem cell research?

Are you wanting us to forget WHY stem cell research is so far behind and so maligned in the public eye?

Are you seeking forgiveness for the christians that jumped off of the bandwagon after learning about things like partial harvesting too late to make a difference?

Are you wanting us to allow those who spoke out in the past against stem cell therapy to get the treatment if they need it?

Are you expecting us to simply forgive and forget that this is only ONE example of religion's hindrance to human progress?

Fuck that! I can't do that. Even forgetting one time is a 'sin' if you ask me.

I'll make you a deal. Get these christians who support stem cell research to fork over their titheing money to the foundations set up to provide the missing funding for the research and we'll talk.

Tell all of these fuckers that want to disassociate themselves with their ideological counterparts that it is time to help humanity fix the things their prayers can't.

Why are you looking for excuses for all of the bad things we've shown you?

It seems like an awful lot of rationalizations to hold onto a faith that a relatively intelligent, informed person like youself shouldn't even have.

Aborted fetuses? I was under the impression, at the prompting of Sam Harris and other sources, that embryonic stem cell research dealt with unused frozen blastocysts that are already headed for disposal.
I've never heard of opposition to adult stem cell research, so I don't know if that's the right question. Whether Christians pose an obstruction hinges on whether there is a distinction between the potential of adult and embryonic stem cells for research. I'd heard the latter held greater promise.
In any event, the worst I could say about either source, fetal or an earlier level of development, is that it poses a level of unseemliness to those choosing to stage this as a moral drama. Stem cell research doesn't change the fate of those embryos; no one is being hurt for the purpose of this research. It's probably the most benevolent thing that could happen to an unused embryo in that it has the potential to help people who are suffering.
If embryonic stem cell research isn't the motive of embryo disposal or abortion, and it has an even slightly greater potential than adult stem cell research to help people, standing in its way is immoral.

I dont know whether all christians oppose all stem research, or only some christians oppose some sorts of stem research. However, I can see why both might be true: stem cell research is taking us closer and closer to be able to replicate the body, or its parts, and is viewed as a threat to religious position simply because its desired results would be a working proof that "god" isn't needed to create life; that humans themselves become "gods" and thus there is less place for the religion in the society. That means that there's less place to the religious people in the society as well.

I don't think that's the reason. I think it's more of the they don't want to kill am embroyo

i am a christian and i belive in cloning!!!its cool