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I think if the Christian god offered me power over gravitational pull, I'd probably start worshipping him.
Yeah, I can be bought. Big deal.
You don't have a choice to worship Him or not. He chose those whom he would save. Those whoom He chose to save, He gave a desire to worship Him.
Romans 8:28-29
Ephesians 1
My Master has no desire to be merely victor in a debate: he did not come into the world to fight a battle of logic just
for the sake of winning it. --Charles Spurgeon
I think the answer back in my catholic school days would have been that anything is possible and god gave us the necessary things to - in this case - build muscles up or machines that would enable us to jump higher. apparently, all this stuff is here to keep us occupied for the time we are on this earth.
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Ok, I choose to jump 50 feet into the air.
<jumps> <jumps>
It didn't work.
Ok, so god limited my free will.
So god limited my free will by creating gravity. Why couldn't he limit murder by creating some anti weapon suction device, that instantly sucks weapons into hell? You know why? Because he is evil... or maybe... just maybe... he doesn't exist.
Ok, I choose not to, as it's an unintelligible incoherent illogical and retarded notion that the God of the bible exists.
Funny how God could've prevented murder and because he didn't, we'd refer to the "ability to prevent murder" as supernatural.
For a second, I'll be ok without jumping 50 ft high...
Why can't I jump as high as Michael Jordan or play basketball as good as him. I want to, I supposedly have free will, yet in all of my practice I could never beat him. His skills are not supernatural... they are natural. So why can't I reproduce his non supernatural ability with my free will. And don't say practice... because no amount of practice will get me to be able to jump from the foul line to slam dunk a ball.
Speaking of the devil, no amount of practice will allow Michael Jordan himself to be as good as he once was at basketball. Why did God limit Michael Jordans free will... unless of course you want to argue that Michael Jordan is choosing to be a washed up superstar.
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So you admit we don't have free will? Or you admit the bible says wedon't have free will? Or both?
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The christian idea of free will is completely superficial.
Picture Jules from Pulp Fiction holding a gun to your forehead, and he says, "Say 'what' again. I dare you."
It's totally within your free will whether you want to say it or not. But is that REALLY free will? Or is it just a scare tactic in a free will costume?
A place common to all will be maintained by none. A religion common to all is perhaps not much different.
Exodus
4:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.
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According to the Bible, you don't have free will! God can force you to make the decisions he wants you to make, and then punish you for it.
Any thoughts on this?
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I think free will is an ad hoc invented to address the contradictions of omnipotence.
Sounds like a guy I wouldn't worship anyway.
I like watching theists refute theists...
"freewill" and omnipotence cannot coexist, if there is an omnipotent creator that preordains the universe, there cannot be free will.
"Hitler burned people like Anne Frank, for that we call him evil.
"God" burns Anne Frank eternally. For that, theists call him 'good.'
See my comment in "Omniscience and free will".
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