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Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 1:36am
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What are we really doing??

I think if the Tentative Rules were used everywhere, we'd be much better off.

It just seems the RRS site is a boxing ring sometimes.   I'm not saying we should sugarcoat things on either side, but be a little gentler.  Honestly, do you think a person who's probablly grown up all their life with a belief, that they are 100% certain of, is going to listen to you if you're bashing them and telling them they're stupid???  Most likely not. And if they do, they're not going to admit it to themselves, because they don't want to be wrong.  You get them so stuck on proving you're wrong they don't care about truth anymore, whether conciously or not.  

Honestly, I think a good amount of us here get caught up in showing how high and mighty we are with our 'truth', and we forget that we're trying to help people.  We have nothing to prove to ourselves.

 

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Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 2:00am #1
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Takes all kinds... Just ask

Takes all kinds...

Just ask yourself who has gotten any media coverage for their atheism and remember no one here says there is only one way to do things.


Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 3:18am #2
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crushingstep7 wrote:

crushingstep7 wrote:

I think if the Tentative Rules were used everywhere, we'd be much better off.

It just seems the RRS site is a boxing ring sometimes. I'm not saying we should sugarcoat things on either side, but be a little gentler. Honestly, do you think a person who's probablly grown up all their life with a belief, that they are 100% certain of, is going to listen to you if you're bashing them and telling them they're stupid??? Most likely not. And if they do, they're not going to admit it to themselves, because they don't want to be wrong. You get them so stuck on proving you're wrong they don't care about truth anymore, whether conciously or not.

Honestly, I think a good amount of us here get caught up in showing how high and mighty we are with our 'truth', and we forget that we're trying to help people. We have nothing to prove to ourselves.

 

This is for theists and atheists alike. Take it how you like.

[MOD EDIT - personal attack removed due to Kill 'Em With Kindness Forum rules]

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Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 8:37am #3
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Vastet wrote:

[MOD EDIT - personal attack removed due to Kill 'Em With Kindness Forum rules]


Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 12:21pm #4
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That's why we have

That's why we have different rules for different forums.

For those that prefer a gentler approach, we have this, the Kill 'Em With Kindness Forum.

For those who prefer a no-holds-barred, gloves-off approach, we have Atheist vs Theist. 

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Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 12:25pm #5
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I don't really think

I don't really think anything is going to change the mind of a 100% devout theist.  I think the target are the people who are questioning, and perhaps plant a seed in the faithful.

From that front, there are many approaches that can be taken.  Agressive works for some, doesn't for others.

I hate to keep refering to them, but you didn't have a purely passive approach on the womans, gay, or black rights movements.  You need a balanced approach from all angles to draw the attention and get the message accross. 


Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 8:52pm #6
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Really Vastet?

[MOD EDIT - personal attack removed due to Kill 'Em With Kindness Forum rules]

 


Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 9:26pm #7
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while there are some

while there are some atheists on this forum who treat theists far gentler than i would, there are also some atheists, here, who are practically gift wrapping ammunition for the theists, in the form of needlessly hostile commentary. there's a fine line between aggressive debate and angry ridicule.

and condescending denial only serves to prove this point.. 

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Posted on: May 29, 2007 - 9:31pm #8
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Yeah, and I'm definately not

Yeah, and I'm definately not saying you should gift wrap at all.