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I don't believe there is a reason to seperate them.  I choose not to because I don't see a reason to, and there is no proof.  I think I qualify for both.  Atheist is a boolean term, meaning that it is either TRUE or FALSE.  You can have people who hold differenct stances as far as the knowledge of god, and that is what we call gnosticism.  An agnostic atheist essentially believes that there is no way to know if there is a god while the gnostic atheist essentially says that they know for certain that there is not.  Using different words to classify different parts of peoples opinons we can seperate them.

There are also many other teams that people use that divide atheists into multiple groups such as brights, humanists, raeleans (hehe).  I actually support coming together under one umbrella since it makes it a lot more clear just how many people fall into this group.

Removing "agnostic" as a stance on theism from peoples brains is also going to be an important step to better identify people whos beliefs are without a deity.


Technically yes, agnostic atheists would fall into category A.  If I was provided with evidence that there is or is not a god I would shift from agnostic to gnostic.  My stance on atheism would change if the proof pointed to a god.


Atheism as a whole is not a religion, much like theism as a whole is not a religion.  It is an umbrella term for people without faith in a deity.  You could argue that there are atheist groups that are essentially or are religions like some forms of communism, the realeans, and others.

Atheists are also not a community of shared beliefs, they are a community of shared disbelief.  I don't need to agree on any other topic with Vanilla Ice and we both claim to not believe in a god we are both atheists.



No.  I was a theist and had a belief in god for a long time without aligning with a specific religion.  I think that any kind of grouping or organizing of it leads to religion or at least cult status.  Many people who self-classify themselves as agnostics are essentially theists without religion.



Morals and Ethics is a big one.
Child development and indoctrination.
Abortion Issues.
Sources of War and Violence.



I have a couple things that hit on a lot of subjects metioned here that I might reference you to:

 

Why Fight for Atheism?

The Bible: Literal, Metaphorical, Poetic

Is Abortion/Baby Killing Holy?

 

 

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You mean to say that even if there was solid evidence of Gods existence you would still not believe ?

If that's the case then you are as bad as theists since you believe things on irrational grounds. 

Zegackly! With proof I would KNOW there's a God but to believe in his teachings and his ways, he doesn't have a cunt-hair of a chance.

 

 

I think it's how I phrased the question or the lack of it. My apologies.

By being prepared to accept proof that there is a God I think I've already qualified myself out of the theist circle. I've always met Theists who said "Show me proof there is no God" but what they really mean is "You've shit of a chance and I'll never accept your views" I'm sure you all have experienced this. Maybe not.

I come from a country that 'The Belief in God' is Federal Constitution. Islam is a majority shareholder in the religous dept. followed closely (but not my quantity) by xtians, hinduism and the others. Xtians wail and moan about religious oppression yet they are most inactive when it comes to inter-faith activities. I should know, was one of them. It's even worse for the muslims. Atleast other religions can op for a second crutch but if you're a muslim... wooohooooo. Nothing less than being branded a pariah by your community, any existing titles or land could be stripped and your will is as good as dogshit. Thats if you're discreet. If the religous police find out then it's black bag time. Actually you guys can look it up.

So if knowing but not wanting to believe in a God that incites fear and promotes xenothreskeiaphobia as the above, then yes I am just as bad.

 

 

Come on now people, you all know exactly what he means.

And DeathMunkyGod, I'm prety sure that saying "I believe in static electricity" does not stand.