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If there is a God and if he is as mighty in power and caring and loving as a father, how can he sit up there and watch all the suffering in the world and do nothing? You may say that we are responsible for our own suffering, but what about those innocent children in Africa who are literaly starving to death? They never made a sin to deserve such punishment, they never had the time, and what about the innocent kids in Palestine who are literaly born into a battlefield and the first thing they hear is the sound of gunshots, who play with a rifle instead of a doll and watch their parents getting killed when they're 5 years old. Why doesn't God do something?

Now I'm not a perfect man, I may not even be a good father but I love my son, and if something happens to him, however small, I will do anything in my power to help him get well. Now you say that this God is out there, he is so powerful and mighty that he can move mountains with a snap of fingers and he loves us all with the most passinate fatherly love imaginable, and I wonder, how can he watch the sufferings and do nothing?


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Why do you ask this question

Why do you ask this question of us? We are atheists.

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andrewgor wrote: If there

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If there is a God and if he is as mighty in power and caring and loving as a father, how can he sit up there and watch all the suffering in the world and do nothing? You may say that we are responsible for our own suffering, but what about those innocent children in Africa who are literaly starving to death? They never made a sin to deserve such punishment, they never had the time, and what about the innocent kids in Palestine who are literaly born into a battlefield and the first thing they hear is the sound of gunshots, who play with a rifle instead of a doll and watch their parents getting killed when they're 5 years old. Why doesn't God do something? Now I'm not a perfect man, I may not even be a good father but I love my son, and if something happens to him, however small, I will do anything in my power to help him get well. Now you say that this God is out there, he is so powerful and mighty that he can move mountains with a snap of fingers and he loves us all with the most passinate fatherly love imaginable, and I wonder, how can he watch the sufferings and do nothing?

The only thing I've ever heard religious people say is "sin". Abrahamic believers (Christians, Muslims, Jews, Baha'ists, Rastafarians, etc.) think it is ancestral sin-either one of our direct ancestors, or Adam and Eve. Dharmic believers (Hindus, Buddhists, Jainists...Sikhs have a foot in both camps, really, but they're leaning more into the Dharmic tradition...) think that it is our own sin from a previous incarnation that brings suffering. Atheists (that's the majority of this site, including myself) throw this all out. There is no god. We fuck each other over. That's what we believe.


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Yeah, I know all the reasons

Yeah, I know all the reasons that point to non existance of God and I'm pretty much of the same opinion but I dont understand one thing, why is there this desire in me that wants God to be real?


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andrewgor wrote: Yeah, I

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Yeah, I know all the reasons that point to non existance of God and I'm pretty much of the same opinion but I dont understand one thing, why is there this desire in me that wants God to be real?

Because, in many ways, it is a very comforting thought.  Education is very comforting too.


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andrewgor wrote:

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Yeah, I know all the reasons that point to non existance of God and I'm pretty much of the same opinion but I dont understand one thing, why is there this desire in me that wants God to be real?
A lot of things here on earth SUCK. Imagining a better life when you die...that's not only comforting, but exhilirating! I'd be excited to go to DisneyHeaven, where everything is perfectly beautiful and fun for the whole family and stuff. Who wouldn't want an eternal paradise to exist?


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andrewgor wrote: Yeah, I

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Yeah, I know all the reasons that point to non existance of God and I'm pretty much of the same opinion but I dont understand one thing, why is there this desire in me that wants God to be real?

Because you are filling the empty spot left by this hope with "god". In fact "god" is the ultimate non-answer, it does not solve any problems, only creates more. 


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andrewgor wrote: ...why is

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...why is there this desire in me that wants God to be real?

Why would you want god to be real?  That would be the most pathetic existence, to be born merely to worship a sadistic creator.

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Yes, I guess just the

Yes, I guess just the feeling that there's nothing more to life than what I see is a bit scary, you know, I'd like something to be out there, maybe not God as the bible says but some sort of higher spiritual being. Any of you guys have read Arthur C Clarck books, the space odysey series? something like that


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andrewgor wrote: Yeah, I

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Yeah, I know all the reasons that point to non existance of God and I'm pretty much of the same opinion but I dont understand one thing, why is there this desire in me that wants God to be real?

The god idea offers things you want that you don't have. That's what wanting means. If you already have something, you don't want it any more. This applies to anything you want that you don't have, and god is just an example.


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andrewgor wrote: Yes, I

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Yes, I guess just the feeling that there's nothing more to life than what I see is a bit scary, you know, I'd like something to be out there, maybe not God as the bible says but some sort of higher spiritual being.

Life is not scary at all! You are afraid of death. Many people are and cling to a false belief for comfort. This is truly unnecessary! You are in control of your life and your happiness. Your family and those that love you will still have fond memories of you when you die. Just as people do now, whether they believe in a deity or not. You do not know what will happen when you die, neither do I, but I am not going to waste one minute of my life worrying about it. Naturally, I will take care of practical matters for the sake of my children, but I am not going to agonize over death.


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andrewgor wrote: Yes, I

andrewgor wrote:
Yes, I guess just the feeling that there's nothing more to life than what I see is a bit scary, you know, I'd like something to be out there, maybe not God as the bible says but some sort of higher spiritual being. Any of you guys have read Arthur C Clarck books, the space odysey series? something like that

I think many people would "like" there to be something else, but unfortunately there is zero evidence or reason to believe it. I cannot live my life waiting to see this "hope" come true.