Super Replicator

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Super Replicator

Some of you wanted my views on the world politics.

Now, I am switching topic for philosophy to the world politics.

Here is your first dose of it - my original, connecting dots.

 

Islam has a very, very good chance to rule the world unless someone does something about it.

The Super Replicator
Reference:
Stumbling on Happiness, by Daniel Gilbert, National Bestseller. page # 236-244

The philosopher Bertrand Russell explained that believing is "the most mental thing we do". Perhaps, but it is also the most social thing we do. Just as we pass along our genes in an effort to create people whose faces look like ours, so too do we pass along our beliefs in an effort to create people whose minds think like ours.

So what determines whether a belief will be successfully transmitted from one mind to another?
Evolutionary biology teaches us that any gene that promotes its own
"means of transmission" will be represented in increasing proportions in the population over time.

For instance, imagine that a single gene were responsible for the complex development of the neural circuitry that makes orgasms feel so good. For person having this gene, orgasms would fee....well, orgasmic. For a person lacking this gene, orgasms would feel more like sneezes - brief, noisy, physical convulsions.

Now, if we took fifty healthy, fertile people who had the gene and fifty healthy, fertile people who didn't and left them on a hospital planet for a million years or so. When we returned we would find a population of thousands or millions of people, almost all of whom had gene. Why? Because a gene that made orgasms feel good would tend to be transmitted from generation to generation simply because people who enjoy orgasms are inclined to do the thing that transmits their genes.


The same logic can explain the transmission of beliefs. If a particular belief has some property that facilitates its own transmission, then that belief tends to be held by an increasing number of minds. The belief doesn't have to be true/false or moral/immoral. Remember, many species are now extinct. There is no right or wrong about it. Truth, logic, moral things doesn't necessarily survive.



The Western culture, ideology, political and social system has been so far proved to be superior to that of Islamic system. However, the same Western ideology that is so superb for a better life, happiness, and enjoyment tell the Westerner not to have many children. As a result they do not. This is counterproductive because although the idea of small family is correct but lacks the self propagating super replicator impetus as explained above.

On the other hand, Muslims, under the Islamic culture and belief system allowed having 4 wives and having large family, and they do. It is also true that under Islamic laws there will be no or very little justice, fairness, freedom to speak or think, women rights, and even the raw standard of living will be much lower than that of today but it has the self-propagating super replicator impetus behind it.

Coupled with the Western value system of giving every individual the right to live and the right to vote Islamic Super Replicator will eat up the Westerner. Same theory tells us that under Islamic ideology the standard of life will drop dramatically. Nevertheless, this super replicator pretty much predestined the future for Islamic rule. It already has started in Europe, America is the next. Australia probably will be the last.

It is also true that under Islamic laws there will be no or very little justice, fairness, freedom to speak or think of. Women’s rights and even the raw standard of living will be much lower than that of today.

 


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cool dude you just invented

cool dude you just invented memes

 Was Muhammad a pig?


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JeremiahSmith wrote:cool

JeremiahSmith wrote:

cool dude you just invented memes

 Was Muhammad a pig?

I did not invent meme. I did not write the super replicator. I just connected these well known theories' dot to Islamic expansion dot. That's all I did. I connected the dots. I am good in connecting dots. That's all.

 Look if I say Mohammad is a Pig then there won't be any fun left at this forum. Let's people imagination do their job.

That will give us another think to think of - how people thing differently. Is one way of thinking better than the other way? Why some time otherwise smart people come up with wrong answers? What is going on psychologically in their head?

How much of a problem my ego is when applying logic? These are the questions.

Note, JeremiahSmith said he is now reading a book titled, "How to catch a Jihadist on the internet". Isn't that interesting. people are upto something.

 

Well, let's get back to the "Super Replicator"


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Timf1234 wrote: Look if I

Timf1234 wrote:
Look if I say Mohammad is a Pig then there won't be any fun left at this forum. Let's people imagination do their job.

 That doesn't make any sense.

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Note, JeremiahSmith said he is now reading a book titled, "How to catch a Jihadist on the internet". Isn't that interesting. people are upto something.

 I've neither said nor read any such thing. Typo?

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Timf1234 wrote: The same

Timf1234 wrote:

The same logic can explain the transmission of beliefs. If a particular belief has some property that facilitates its own transmission, then that belief tends to be held by an increasing number of minds. The belief doesn't have to be true/false or moral/immoral. Remember, many species are now extinct. There is no right or wrong about it. Truth, logic, moral things doesn't necessarily survive.

I'm going to have to say 'no'. I think you're confusing basic instincts with indoctrination. Our instincts to be social are because our species realized that on our own we are weak compared to the rest of nature. And our best way to survive was to live in groups, to ensure survival.

Ideology is not something that passes through genes. Nobody is born with a Western ideology or Islamic ideology, but rather they are indoctrinated to those ideologies, in order to keep with the herd.

 

Definitions:

Indoctrination: the process of teaching a partisan or sectarian point of view

Instincts: An inborn pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental stimuli; impulse, natural feelings

"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."--Stephen F. Roberts


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JeremiahSmith

JeremiahSmith wrote:

Timf1234 wrote:
Look if I say Mohammad is a Pig then there won't be any fun left at this forum. Let's people imagination do their job.

 That doesn't make any sense.

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Note, JeremiahSmith said he is now reading a book titled, "How to catch a Jihadist on the internet". Isn't that interesting. people are upto something.

 I've neither said nor read any such thing. Typo?

May be I got mixed up with some one else. some said that. It was funny. I enjoyed it.

Why did you write : "That doesn't make any sense"

What did you mean?


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vexed wrote: Timf1234

vexed wrote:

Timf1234 wrote:

The same logic can explain the transmission of beliefs. If a particular belief has some property that facilitates its own transmission, then that belief tends to be held by an increasing number of minds. The belief doesn't have to be true/false or moral/immoral. Remember, many species are now extinct. There is no right or wrong about it. Truth, logic, moral things doesn't necessarily survive.

I'm going to have to say 'no'. I think you're confusing basic instincts with indoctrination. Our instincts to be social are because our species realized that on our own we are weak compared to the rest of nature. And our best way to survive was to live in groups, to ensure survival.

Ideology is not something that passes through genes. Nobody is born with a Western ideology or Islamic ideology, but rather they are indoctrinated to those ideologies, in order to keep with the herd.

Definitions:

Indoctrination: the process of teaching a partisan or sectarian point of view

Instincts: An inborn pattern of behavior that is characteristic of a species and is often a response to specific environmental stimuli; impulse, natural feelings

 

 Vexed,You wrote: "Ideology is not something that passes through genes."Of course, that is a correct statement. All of us know that.The point is, since overwhelming majority, over 90% or so Muslims stays as Muslims if they are born and raised in Islamic family since the advent of Islam in the 7th century. And that according to Islamic ideology the punishment of leaving Islam is death. And that According to their teaching they are supposed to produce more children. For this purpose they are allowed to have 4 wives. [Although Mohammad had 12 wives, starting from 11 years old Aisha.]. This is equivalent to thought replicator. To understand this view actual genetic transmission as hardware and the Islamic one is software transmission. Although it does not passes through gene. But it is nearly equivalent. 


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Timf1234 wrote: Why did you

Timf1234 wrote:
Why did you write : "That doesn't make any sense"

What did you mean?

It is nonsensical to imply a correlation between the amount of fun left at this forum and your saying "Muhammed is a pig". Are you somehow having fun by not saying it? Is the only thing that keeps you coming here is the possibility that you will get through another login session without calling Muhammed a pig? I doubt it. 

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