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From: hopekill design
Date: May 2, 2006 1:54 AMyou're a bunch of fucking idiots. i hate people like you, thats what is wrong with the world, everyone is fighting against something, you are just adding to everything. keep up the good work u assholes.
-dan
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From: RATIONAL RESPONSE SQUAD
Date: May 2, 2006 9:45 AMWe're fighting for your mental freedom, and against those who have enslaved you.
Thanks for illustrating your need to be saved. It enforced our mission.
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From: hopekill design
Date: May 2, 2006 9:57 AMwhat are u fuckin retartad that makes no sense, who the fuck has enslaved me? you're stupid as shit
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From: RATIONAL RESPONSE SQUAD
Date: May 2, 2006 2:39 PMDO you have any universal proof that a god exists? No... yet you believe in one.
How many things in life are you willing to believe with no proof? I'd imagine, not many other than god.
Think.
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THE MOST RECENT EMAIL HERE, MY COMMENTS IN BOLD, his in quote boxes:
how do u have prooof that a god doesn't exist or a higher power?
I don't. I called into question your inability to prove that your god exists. I never claimed to believe there is no god.
because science isn't correct , the laws of evolution are all falling apart one by one, scientists are afraid to admit it to the public but they are being proven wrong.
Impossible, Science changes itself when proven wrong and is never afraid to admit a failure. This is the difference between Science and Religion. Out of curiousity, name 5 things that Science has been proven wrong about, and show me where Science hasn't admitted it.
find an answer to some things then you will have a resonable argument, but you have no reason to question the faith or belief of a person without proof that will uphold as truth.
I have a reason to question your faith, as you wrote to me insulting me, while you are the idiot who believes in things that can't be proven... I don't.
how can you believe in fear if it doesn't exist, how do u believe in love, in anything.
Those are emotions that I can feel, they aren't Gods that are said to be universal to all.
people believe in different things, doesnt make your opinion or beliefs any better, you're beliefe are just those of a narrow minded asshole.
If I was narrow minded I would still be a Christian. It is because I have an open mind, I was able to break free. Now do you have an open mind, or will you continue to insult anyone different than you to feed your narrow mind the bigoted rhetoric it needs to keep itself closed?
i'm 19 and i just burned a hole right through your little fuckin rational response squad.
Saying it, don't make it so, child.
- Sapient
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HE JUST SENT HIS RESPONSE, again his response in quotes, mine in bold.
Well if I don't, my partners do. That's kind of the idea... "Rational Response Squad."
So either you're a liar, or you're sarcastic... neither of them being good Christian qualities. See... in your first email to me you told me: " i hate people like you."
See the problem yet?
I'm sure there are some 19 year olds that could outsmart me, I'm not above admitting that. You however aren't even in the realm of coming anywhere close.
Ok, so you backed out of proving this claim. Is this yet another claim that you believe with no evidence? I think so. The fact is, it is impossible for science to be proven wrong and not to admit it. When I say it's impossible, I'm not exagerrating. I mean it. It is physically impossible for science to be proven wrong and not to admit it, for if science is proven wrong through scientific methods, than that is the science.
No you don't. Whether you know the word fear or not, plays no role in you feeling it. NONE.
No you don't have to believe in love in order to feel it. Try again. Show me something you believe in with NO evidence of it's existence. You have evidence for love and fear, you've felt the emotions, and almost everyone on Earth can confirm that they've felt them as well... even atheists.
With evidence! Again... show me things you believe in with NO evidence... ya know... like God.
We only insult beliefs worthy of ridicule. As a Christian, if you insult someone just for insulting you, that makes you a phony. If Christians were actually good people, maybe nobody would speak up about the utterly ridiculous things they believe. In your case, you are a total dickwad, that deserves to be insulted, considering you think two wrongs make a right.
Nazi's never claimed to have all the answers, dumbass. Nice try though.
Our belief is that we should live in a world where people think rationally, and we try to stop all of those who don't. If a god can be defended rationally, we would gladly defend it.
Because we care about people. We feel for people who have been duped into believing something like nothing else they're willing to believe in life. It's sad that people aren't taught at age 10 that God is fake when they are taught that Santa is fake. Parents lie to their kids about Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and God. It's ashame parents rarely clue their kids into the God is a myth story when they do the same for the other myths.
When you say "strong minded" you mean to say close minded. When you say "weak" you mean to say open. And from your arguments I see you are close minded, which is ironic since that is what you called me. Got hypocrisy? Yeah... you do.
Another close minded trait. It's disgusting, and ironically the close minded individual is a philosophical weakling.
What argument? Again, saying it doesn't make it so. You haven't mind a single argument yet, the one argument you almost made about science being proven wrong, you were unable to defend. You're a child rejecting reality, because you are scared to admit what you've been taught is fantasy. It's ok, need a hug?
Prove that your god exists scientifically, until then you are merely blowing smoke out your butt. And ridiculing yourself and your intelligence in the process.
Or maybe you'll want to come on our radio show, and defend your god. Or maybe better yet, you'd come with an open mind and ask questions of us with the hope to learn something. lol Naw... you wouldn't do that... you're 18, you already know everything.
You love assuming, eh? Who said I didn't want to hear your opinions? Not me.
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Classic! This would make a good standard answer for a lot of things.
this guy is a hell of a debater... I guess he learned it at Liberty University. Idiot. you can tell he was getting frustrated and did not want to debate longer..his ego...just wouldn't let it go. hahaha..
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debating with most christians is like trying to teach english as a second language... to hamsters. i admire your patience.
have you seen his pic? he's got a "killer dude" hair cut...fucking emo wannabe.
Another stupid kid that thinks he's a genius!
Why do some Christians attack Science when debating with atheists. As if Science is our religion?
Actually I have several shrines to Darwin in my house where I invite neighbor children over, and then sacrifice them to the O' Glorious One.
He's on to me!
I have to agree with these e-mails. I mean, what the hell are you guys thinking? Oh yea, thats right, you are thinking.
Thats the problem. Why cant you guys just let people believe in their fictional characters? Who cares if they use this fiction for political power? Who cares if they condemn atheists?
Damn you guys. I mean if belief in Jesus makes them happy in their bigotry and ignorance, let them be.
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Okay Brian, fair enough... but I don't go knocking on doors telling people the 'good news'. I don't invade other countries and use a direct line to a supreme being as the justification for it.
If a theist chooses to come here and debate rationally, I for one, will have a 'rational' debate with them. I don't go onto christian boards to goad people. Frankly, I don't go on to them at all.
Damn me? To where? Hell? Sorry, till I'm there with my passport stamped, I won't believe in one.
NSane
Lock up your libraries if you like; but there is no gate, no lock, no bolt that you can set upon the freedom of my mind. ~ Virginia Woolf 1928.
The only problem I can see there sap is the end, you said 18 instead of 19. I'm sure he would love that. "you cant even remember my age, see, god exsists!"
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I'll get back to you when I think of something worthwhile to say.
Oh, mind fart. That's a famous quote from a high school year book, "Why can't all of lifes problems hit us at 18, when we know everything?" My brain referred to the quote when pointing it out.
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Isn't Darwin that god that killed all the Dinosaurs and gave the world to Humans? He rocks.
-=Grim=-
No Nyarlathotep, Know Peace.
Know Nyarlathotep, No Peace.
That argument, Sapient, that you had with that Dan guy above...
Steriotypical theist vs. atheist.
It's funny how they go on one train of thought, you smack it down, and then they suddenly go RIGHT off into something else, like a bald insult or a non sequitor, red herring.
Sorry Dan, while you may be ashamed of your actions now, and hope to wash reality away from people googling "hopekill design" all emails sent via myspace, and our feedback box become the sole property of Rational Responders and we can do as we see fit (see dislclaimer). Thanks for yet another email to add to the lineup, and good luck with that clothing company "Hopekill Clothing Co." I hope people don't google that and see your despicable actions and inability to defend all that you hold dear that you've shown us above.
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Haha!!! Dan just got fucked in the ass.
He's obviously very intimidated by the arguments on this site... his slew of insults speaks to him being very intimidated.... and his comment about you having 'all the answers' is the typical fundy projection of his annoyance over having all his arguments refuted....
hopekill.com
"Hitler burned people like Anne Frank, for that we call him evil.
"God" burns Anne Frank eternally. For that, theists call him 'good.'
here's his actual myspace site:
http://www.myspace.com/killthehope
Notice his quote to describe himself:
I can tell this is true from the abuse he put himself through when he brought up religion with me.
I found his description of himself so funny on many different levels. I've only kept selected funny parts:
Wow!
Notice:
So, he hates liars, eh? It all makes sense, he hates life, he hates liars (himself), he doesn't like immature people (himself), and he can't find anyone to love him. Well here's a tip Dan, you can't find love, until you love yourself. Get over your hypocrisy and self hate and maybe you'll have a fighting chance.
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Holy shit! I've felt like that, but at least I didn't treat others like shit or turn to mythology!
TYPICAL FUCKING EMO WANNA BE..HAHAH FUCKING EMO TRENDY BASTARD...LOL....
WASN'T HE IN THIS VIDEO? HAHAHAH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHTAT_UPm18
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thank you for the promotion guys.
i appreciate it very much. but you can slander my name on here as much as you wish, as long as it gets people talking about me good or bad, they will still check out my websites.
thanks, and this issue is being taken care of by a higher authority.
-dan hopekill
You mean like your friend who wrote us the following?
By the way slander is a false charge, I don't see any false charges here. Additionally if this promotion is so positive then why did you want your name removed and why have it "handled by a higher authority?" Considering that I can't reconcile any truth to that matter I must figure there is no real higher authority on the matter, and this is not good publicity. But nevertheless, I care about neither, I don't care if you get publicity or not, or waste "authorities" time on something you have no lawful basis to fight, I only care to disect your ignorance about religion, and your hatred and bigotry towards people different from you.
YOU WROTE ME.
Oh, and welcome aboard.
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i haha i see my friend wrote you, cool, i guess.
but whatever. publicity is publicity.
that many more people know about me now haha. good or bad, i choose not to care. i expressed my opinions about what your group stood for, and you fired back with responses, i see no wrong in that. it seems every person in thise group are the ones who are unaccepting to people different from them, i mean, you guys are the one who have this big campaigne set up to prove religion to be false, if that doesn't say something i dont know what does. religion is history, a little online group is not going to change that. but i guess you can your little squad of followers can try your best, by picking on people who don't believe as you believe or feel the same as you feel. the replies to my comment ont his forums are just as immature as some of the things i had said, and you cannot deny that.
take care
-dan
If it's not that important, why then must you keep comin' back????? If some little online group...is of no threat, why then, waste your time? You attack first, now you're all flustered up in a bun....when there's retaliation. I suggest this: grow up, come back when you have a true wanting for intelligent debate. Otherwise, go sell your hopekill shirts to the rest of your emo wannabe clans...and stop worrying about this little internet group that has no significance whatsoever on the history of religion.
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Good, be an optimist. I can't help but overlook though that you wanted the info removed, and you claim it's publicity (originally asserting that it was good). Seems a little dishonest to me.
Again, if you really felt that way I can't see why you'd ask me to remove the comments, or whine to your friend about it.
And yet, here you are. Able to discuss freely with us what you see right and wrong with us. Able to talk to us in an open forum. If I was so unnaccepting would you even be allowed to be here? Dan, you fail to realize that it is because most of us genuinely care about humanity and the future of this planet that we do what we do. Is it possible, we are wrong, not likely, but let's pretend for a moment we are wrong about everything we say... this doesn't change that our intent is to help our fellow man who we accept as our brother.
Religion proves itself wrong just fine. We're only here to help people think critically about it. Let them know it's ok to doubt. Let them know you wont get struck by lightning the moment you stop believing. Let them know that people who don't believe can still make a positive impact on our world.
Atheism is history too. In fact atheism has existed longer than religion, so your point does nothing to build a positive case for religion. Your point is.... well.... pointless.
Well ridiculously irrational people can sometimes be fun to pick on. We probably shouldn't do it, but sometimes it seems like some people are past the point of no return, and just laughing at them is, well... the rational thing to do.
Maybe some of them are, however you can't deny that they are a fairly good interpretation of the reality of your irrationality.
You too. I hope you stick around. I really do.
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im not going to comment anything u said because im not up for online fighting.
u hope i stick around? haha why is that? hmmm do i sense sarcasm?
This coming from a guy who wrote ONLINE:
Do you not see how easy it is to view you as dishonest? It's ok, just say "I'm not going to respond because I can't defend myself."
No you don't sense sarcasm. I was being serious. Call me sadistic, or call me accepting, I guess it's all in how you view it. But one thing is certain... I was serious.
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What do you want me to accept? Why do you need my acceptance? I accept your my brother, do I agree with your beliefs? No. Do I accept your right to believe them? Yes.
Dan, I'm a freethinker. If I thought my side was always correct I would still be a Christian. I grew up as a Christian, but because I'm able to accept the possibility that I may be wrong, and I still do today, I was able to accept that I was wrong about having a belief in something that even you understand is not proven.
"In order for one to be open-minded, one must first accept the possibility that they may be wrong... and are willing to change their position when enough evidence to the contrary presents itself." - Infidel Guy You could call that quote my life motto.
If there is no point, then why do you keep doing it? Why did you start in the first place with your hateful message? Ironic you speak about needing acceptance yet your first message to me was full of your hatred and lack of acceptance for me.
And therefore, you've just made my case for me.
Well at least you recognize your beliefs can't be proven. That's a start.
NEWSFLASH: It was proven as scientific fact quite some time ago, and the data keeps pouring in.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html
I can't believe our government dollars are being wasted on that, but furthermore I don't even believe you on that. Have a link to some proof of that?
No Dan. I only believe things that can be proven however as you freely admit, you don't have that same standard to believe in something.
:roll:
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i do not have a link that proves that, sorry. but i know of someone in the CIA who had that job. a link..?what you read on the internet isn't always true anyways, just research it .
i'm through with this nonsense, you believe what you want and i'll believe what i want. fighting about it won't solve anything. the end.
So will you be leaving us now?
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leaving, no. i'm done for arguing though. i get no satisfaction from it, just annoyed.
you attacked first my friend, just remember that....and there is indeed proof of that. YOU INSULTED FIRST. "THE RRS IS A BUNCH OF FUCKING IDIOTS" Remember? This is not about dissenting views. You emailed with insults and ignorance...then, since you have been beaten at your own game you start with threats and accusations that are baseless at best and complete fallacies at worst. So if you want to remain, welcome aboard. Maybe you'll grow up and learn something. Otherwise, your time is better spent trying to make money on your clothing line. Don't play with fire if you don't want to get burned.
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Why would someone in the CIA work to disprove evolution? What possible national security would disproving evolution have? secondly, if you knew someon who worked in the CIA, which is mainly classified work, why would he/she tell you? And thirdly if it was true, why would you talk about it in a public forum?
So..A. This is a flat out lie from you. B. Your CIA buddy lied to you. or C. your narcissism has gotten the best of you and you really don't know anyone in the CIA.
As far as evolution....? it has been proven, it is ignorant social conservatives athat are trying to convicne you it hasn't. The scientific community is united on this subject. The "scientists" that the xtian right claims are ID or creationsits in their views..are part of a propaganda machine set up from universiteis like "liberty" and think tanks like AEI and Discovery Institute to brainwash irrational and ignorant minds like yours.
Check out
www.becominghuman.org
and
http://www.hhmi.org/lectures/
ANd I will leave you with this. If you don't believe in evolution, I suggest you stop taking medicine and rely on prayer to heal you. Evolutionary principles are what is driving medicine today. IF you have not belief in it, then I suggest you stop going to hospitals when you're sick and rely on faith alone, we'll see which will cure you.
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ah here we go again with this douche bag. shut up and let the other guy talk, i like him better.
i feel no need to have to prove anything to you. believe me or not i wont lose sleep over it.
yea i'm pissed off, go ahead and burn me because i played with fire, i'm real nervous. come talk to me next time you are in philadelphia and i'l give you a piece of my mind you asshole, i'm through with this online shit.
i forgot that you know all. because you are the jesus christ of this little online group called the "Rational Response Squad" hahaha do you wear superhero costumes too? We are the Rational Response Squad, we hate everything you stand for and we are here to save the world from idiots and religion. stupid stupid stupid.
lol, stop making a fool of yourself Dan.
And what would you do if you could get a face to face meeting? It's not inconceiveable for us to arrange one.
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i would just love to see you guys face to face so i could get a good laugh.
i'm not making a fool of myself, i just get bored and write on here. i dont really care about your personal opinions about me or the opinions of others.
You ARE making a fool of yourself. Big time. Seriously.
Ten more people could tell him, and he still wouldn't admit it or "get it." I feel bad for him, I really do.
Dan, is this how you were brought up? Was your family very religious?
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haha good. i'm real worried, as you can tell.
what will become of it? online people won't respect me in an atheist group? i'm at a huge loss here i guess
my family was not very religious no, i was raised catholic, went to catholic schools, but that means nothing, i actually despise organized religion and catholicism and hated it growing up. so my family being religious or not is irrelevant to my decisions in life and what i choose to believe in.
But you chose to open up a Christian bookstore. **sigh** If I owned a bookstore, I would put all the Bibles and every religious book in the "fiction" section! :twisted:
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nice.
It would be honest at least!
honest, mabye to some. but to a larger majority it would be greatly looked down upon
Yeah, to deluded people! Unfortunately, that is the majority in this country.
Western Europe is so much more rational than the US. :cry: :roll: And people try to say we are still the best country there is. Sorry. We blew that. :cry:
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why do you call people who done believe 100 percent in science foolish? i dont think that is too fair. you can't really have an attitude that you are correct no matter what, and everyone else is wrong...because obviously you aren't correct about everything is you're only preaching you beliefs in a little online bulletin board and no famously known yet. mabye there is something wrong with the world if all of the unfaulty genius minds in this group haven't been exposed to the public yet. mabye i'm wrong and you're all the next charles darwin and albert einstein, but i won't bet on it.